Are the Muslims really Terrorists?

Are the Muslims really Terrorists?

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Sam Hamod, former advisor to the US State Department and an expert on the Middle East, and also former founder and editor of 3rd World News in Washington, Dc, had this to say about the bombings, in part:
"Having discussed ththe matter in detail with other experts on the Middle East, Christianity in Iraq and on Islam in Iraq, we have all concluded this is not the work of any Muslim group. There has never been any animosity between the Christian and Muslim communities in Iraq, in fact, THEY HAVE STOOD TOE TO TOE AGAINST THE AMERICAN OCCUPATION and they have resisted efforts by the Israeli ofice in Baghdad to become allied with Israel.......
(this) is just another attempt either by the American CIA or its operatives, or the Mossad of Israel, to paint Islam with terrorism and to split the Muslim and Christian communities in Irag..."

It is so sad that we listen to OUR "leaders" in order to keep hatred alive and well.

http:www.rense.com/general56/chris.htm
 
Sistani Condemns Attacks on Iraqi Christians

Monday, August 02, 2004
BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iraq's top Shiite Muslim cleric on Monday condemned as "hideous crimes" the coordinated bomb attacks on five churches in Baghdad and Mosul that killed at least seven people and marked the insurgency's first major attacks on Iraq's minority Christians....
...Muslim clerics condemned the violence and also offered condolences to Iraq's dwindling Christian community. Many Christians have already fled to neighboring Jordan and Syria to escape violence in the insurgency-wracked nation.
"This is a cowardly act and targets all Iraqis," Abdul Hadi al-Daraji, spokesman for radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, told Al-Jazeera television.
The more senior al-Sistani, based in the southern city of Najaf, said: "We assert the importance of respecting the rights of Christian civilians and other religious minorities and reaffirm their right to live in their home country Iraq in security and peace."
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,127755,00.html

I am glad to see some Muslim leaders speak out against the attacks.
 
Beowulf said:
Sam Hamod, former advisor to the US State Department and an expert on the Middle East, and also former founder and editor of 3rd World News in Washington, Dc
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"Expert on the Middle East" Sam Hamod wouldn't have an "agenda" would he? ;) Interesting how many of the causes and people he supports just happen to be anti-Semitic and/or anti-Israel. Hmmm....
http://www.counterpunch.com/hamod05092003.html
http://www.mediamonitors.net/samhamod1.html
http://www.peterhansen.com/snot.htm
http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion ... Itself On Democracy In Iraq By Sam Hamod.htm
http://www.tamouz.com/hamod05242004.html
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1304

Read Hamod's editorial "“The Myth of Tiny, Little Israel: Zionist Tentacles Everywhere"; you will see how twisted his thinking is.
http://madison.indymedia.org/newswire/display/13233/index.php

When he was in Washington, he was Director of the Islamic Center. He might be a wee bit prejudiced in his "analysis", you think?
 
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And your point is..?
I am aware of who he is.
He is NOT anti-semetic.

I checked out the links you provided, and I am in tears, practically. All of his discourses were well reasoned, though they may not be palatable to many folk, and I chuckle because no one has yet provided any rebuttal.
Colin Powell himself said that any criticism of the Israeli government does not make you antiSemetic, and though I will not go there, I am sharply critical of that gang of thugs and murderers.
You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, Reba, let me say this as gently as possible, just as much as I have no clue why you think the way you do.
You post articles about alleged Muslim attacks on their own, yet ignore the reality of tens of thousands of Muslim deaths through our illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq and do not bother to post those, so I can get a general idea where you are coming from.
If you google for information, my, you must feel so frustrated because the information you get are not necessarily from Foxsnooze or its ilk. Any news that does not support Bush and his gang of murderous traitors are taboo to you, but not to me. Too bad.
Bias?
Hell yeah.
 
Beowulf said:
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And your point is..?
I am aware of who he is.
He is NOT anti-semetic.
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How can you read his writings and say he is not anti-Semitic? Just because he says he is not?

All of his discourses were well reasoned, though they may not be palatable to many folk, and I chuckle because no one has yet provided any rebuttal.
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They are not well-reasoned, and most of his ideas are not even original. That anti-Jew, anti-Israel rhetoric has been around a loooooong time.

Colin Powell himself said that any criticism of the Israeli government does not make you antiSemetic...
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Criticism is fine. Untrue attacks are beyond criticism.

...I am sharply critical of that gang of thugs and murderers.
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Of whom are you referring?

You post articles about alleged Muslim attacks on their own...
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Alleged? Are you blind to the mass graves? Do you not know about the recent bombings of Iraq's police stations?

...yet ignore the reality of tens of thousands of Muslim deaths through our illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq...
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Not illegal, not immoral. You need to check your facts.

...so I can get a general idea where you are coming from.
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Where would that be?

...you must feel so frustrated because the information you get are not necessarily from Foxsnooze or its ilk.
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Not at all.

Any news that does not support Bush and his gang of murderous traitors are taboo to you, but not to me. Too bad.
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Any "news" that is not factual is "taboo". It seems to me, any news that does not support your hate for President Bush is "taboo" to you.
 
Lol, my post did not go over so well with you, now did it?
I admire the fire within you, Reba. Please do not think that I despise you, that I hate you, that I am disgusted with you, that I loathe you, that you make me recoil in horror, because that is not true.
It is also not true that Muslims are terrorists.
It is also true that Americans are not terrorists.
Both sides look into each others' eyes.
There are a couple billion Muslims in this world, and only a few hundred million Americans.
Can't we just get along?
 
You are right, Beowulf that not all Muslims are terrorists..
I know some Muslims and they are very nice and peaceful people.
It just that certain group of Muslims that are fanatical and are bent on
destroying America..you all know why.
 
Beowulf said:
Please do not think that I despise you, that I hate you, that I am disgusted with you, that I loathe you, that you make me recoil in horror, because that is not true.
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It never entered my mind. :)

It is also not true that Muslims are terrorists.
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It is true that some Muslims are terrorists. Some Muslims support terrorists, some Muslims ignore terrorists. I never said that all Muslims are terrorists.

There are a couple billion Muslims in this world, and only a few hundred million Americans.
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The Muslim terrorism movement attacks are not confined to only the United States. They are also kidnapping and killing people in the Phillipines, Spain, Israel, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, on ships at sea, etc.
 
One of the founders to Orange County Deaf Advocacy Center is a muslim. He's never believed in violence.

Richard
 
Nesmuth said:
One of the founders to Orange County Deaf Advocacy Center is a muslim. He's never believed in violence.
Richard
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Great! :)
 
Nowhere in that article states that the terrorists were muslims.
They were probably Chencyan Separatists
 
kuifje75 said:
Nowhere in that article states that the terrorists were muslims.
They were probably Chencyan Separatists
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Yes, Chechen terrorists are Muslim.

re: http://www.terrorismanswers.org/groups/chechens.html

"The Chechens are a largely Muslim ethnic group...."

"Are there links between Chechen groups and al-Qaeda?
Yes. Experts say there are reportedly several ties...."
 
Frankly, I'm tired of ppl making Muslims look bad just because of some extremists did. Get over it already, Reba. I already said I don't condone terrorism, but you can't make a whole group responsible for the activities of the extremists.

Besides, just because they happen to be Muslims does not mean that they use religion to wager a war against Russia. It's like if a large group of Americans were protestants and battled with England for independence, and then Americans would be called Protestant terrorists. Makes no sense.
 
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kuifje75 said:
Frankly, I'm tired of ppl making Muslims look bad just because of some extremists did. Get over it already, Reba. I already said I don't condone terrorism, but you can't make a whole group responsible for the activities of the extremists.
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I never said that "all" Muslims are bad. But too many people are hiding or ignoring the fact that Muslim terrorists are attacking innocent people.

Also, if you notice, I did not start this thread; I responded to the poll question that was posted.

If the Chechens truly were "freedom fighters" they would not use terrorism to fight a revolution. They are using terrorism because they hate Russian people. There is no strategic military reason to attack children at a school.

I am not making the Muslims "look bad" as you say. They do it to themselves when they allow (and encourage) the renegades to continue their terrorist ways.

http://www.mosnews.com/images/p/4015.shtml
 
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View Poll Results: Are the Muslims really Terrorists?

My Answer:

Look at Timothy McVeigh, is he a Muslim?

My reason for my answer:

Timothy McVeigh might be a role model to those who are extremists that resulted into terrorist(s). Somebody can be a extreme Christian, killing abortionists, making Christian society to appear absurd, strict, over disciplined or various extreme reasons. It doesn't necessarily mean that Christians are really murders. Al-Quesdia is a specific extremist group that spawns terrorists based in their extreme belief in Muslim or similiar belief(s) where their own justification seems to be the authorative reason for murder. Someone who believes in their faith or religion exceedingly often became so delusional that they think that their actions will be justified in their own power. Therefore Muslims are not singled out as terrorists and that is a generalized statement. Someone with extreme influence, i.e. Timothy McVeigh, Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and various major figures are those who spawn terrorists, not just Muslims. Therefore, is Timothy McVeigh a Muslim? No, he is just one of those who influence people to turn into terrorists and not fearing death.
 
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