APNewsBreak: Court lifts ban on graduation prayer

[yizuman]

The government isn't allowed to endorse any religions. It's in the constitution. Public schools which allow official prayer (such as convocations and other formally endorsed prayer sections) is a form of government endorsement of religion. Nobody is stopping students from praying while they're at school or during their graduation. They're just not allowed to do it as a formal part of the graduation process, because that constitutes an endorsement. And any form of prayer, regardless of how generic and non-specific it is, is still endorsing religion over non-religion, which is still not allowed.

And that's a good thing.

Uh since when schools, especially private schools, is a form of government???

Schools is a form of education, not government.

Yiz

 

[Foxrac]

Uh since when schools, especially private schools, is a form of government???

Schools is a form of education, not government.

Yiz

Who provide a funding for public school? It was from government and it is part of government property.

 

[yizuman]

Who provide a funding for public school? It was from government and it is part of government property.

Funding is from the Government, but school property comes from property taxes paid by taxpayers.

Yiz

 

[Foxrac]

Funding is from the Government, but school property comes from property taxes paid by taxpayers.

Yiz

Yup, it is government property and open to everyone on basis of district.

 

[yizuman]

Yup, it is government property and open to everyone on basis of district.

Nope, property taxes makes the school property a taxpayer's property, not the Government. However, when the school elects to receive fundings from the Government, then the school is then regulated by the Government but the property in of itself still belongs to the taxpayers.

The school can always elect to decline further funding from the Government and lose all the perks that comes from the Government therefore the school becomes private, funded by the taxpayers and or donators. Or that is supported by fees and such. However it is they can raise money to support the school.

Yiz

 

[Foxrac]

Nope, property taxes makes the school property a taxpayer's property, not the Government. However, when the school elects to receive fundings from the Government, then the school is then regulated by the Government but the property in of itself still belongs to the taxpayers.

The school can always elect to decline further funding from the Government and lose all the perks that comes from the Government therefore the school becomes private, funded by the taxpayers and or donators.

Yiz

Do you consider White House, Capitol, US Supreme Court, IRS building as government property?

If so then why not about public school, they are funded by government that received from taxes, bonds, royalties, etc and they are part of government property, however you can say it is city/county owned property, whatever you wish.

 

[yizuman]

Do you consider White House, Capitol, US Supreme Court, IRS building as government property?

If so then why not about public school, they are funded by government that received from taxes, bonds, royalties, etc and they are part of government property, however you can say it is city/county owned property, whatever you wish.

WH and such came from paying taxes through the labor of the workforce.

Property taxes goes to schools.

That's the reason why they're separate.

However whenever a school elects to receive fundings from the Government, the funding then comes from the taxes taken out of the workforce's weekly paychecks.

Yiz

 

[TXgolfer]

huh, school is part of government property and they are obligated to follow 1st Amendment and mandatory praying in school was unconstitutional by US Supreme Court in 1960's but some schools aren't follow up. Sometime, judges made a different opinion on ruling that based on US constitution.

Your disagree with her/him means nothing because her/his post is pretty accurate.

Man there is no mandatory prayer in schools and that's not what was done here. I am not sure who told you this....but they were wrong.

We had a prayer before football games....it was pretty generic.

 

[Foxrac]

Man there is no mandatory prayer in schools and that's not what was done here. I am not sure who told you this....but they were wrong.

We had a prayer before football games....it was pretty generic.

There were mandatory praying in public school in past but depends on public school. My grandma said school praying were extremely common in US when she was student in 1930's and 1940's.

You can check on court ruling.
Abington School District v. Schempp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[TXgolfer]

There were mandatory praying in public school in past but depends on public school. My grandma said school praying were extremely common in US when she was student in 1930's and 1940's.

You can check on court ruling.
Abington School District v. Schempp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the past.....yes

 

[StSapphire]

Uh since when schools, especially private schools, is a form of government???

Schools is a form of education, not government.

Public schools are legally considered to be a function of the government, as well as any other schools that receive government funding. Private schools don't, but those aren't in question here.

Funding is from the Government, but school property comes from property taxes paid by taxpayers.

Property taxes which are paid to the government. There have been numerous legal rulings, public schools and schools which receive government funding (such as from tax money) are part of the government and have to follow the same sort of laws that the rest of the government bodies do, such as not promoting religion.

Nope, property taxes makes the school property a taxpayer's property, not the Government. However, when the school elects to receive fundings from the Government, then the school is then regulated by the Government but the property in of itself still belongs to the taxpayers.

The school can always elect to decline further funding from the Government and lose all the perks that comes from the Government therefore the school becomes private, funded by the taxpayers and or donators. Or that is supported by fees and such. However it is they can raise money to support the school.

Incorrect. You don't pay taxes to the school, you pay them to the government. The government hands out some of that tax money down to the school. (Then they spend the rest on a bunch of other stuff.)

You are correct, if the school declines funding from the government, then they can do whatever they want, which is why all religious schools are private.

WH and such came from paying taxes through the labor of the workforce.

Property taxes goes to schools.

That's the reason why they're separate.

However whenever a school elects to receive fundings from the Government, the funding then comes from the taxes taken out of the workforce's weekly paychecks.

Uh... No? All of your taxes go to one pot in the government's coffers. Property tax, payroll tax, sales tax, etc. They all go in to the same place (well, they get split between local/state/federal taxes, but that's a minor detail), and then those places pay out benefits from everything they've gotten in.