When we are discussing the BP CEO out on a yachting vacation, and you turn the topic into an Obama mugging, it gets redundant. When are you going to realize that there are members that have given up seeing your point? I certainly am one. I still listen to Conservatives, but not you. Some, like Reba and TxGolfer, have a certain respect they have earned by not making an obsession out of one topic, and do not come across as arrogant. If you want to be a better debater, lose the big head. I debate you because I like to be a pest. I am just a guy with a few free minutes. You got the paid-for education. I got a lifetime of observations. Not really a fair fight.