Religion and Abortion

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Byrdie714 said:
Who is going to pay for it?
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I hope you don't mean that. :( Is money has to be an issue, or the importance of human being?
 
My opinion, it's so rude to post with some nasty pictures.

If I were you, I would say "Go to google and to type 'abortion information' and try find some pictures of decreased fetuses." instead of posting some images here.

I know it's very sad... I'd seen them before when I was 17 and it made me cry and so sad for that.
 
PuyoPiyo said:
I have a question appeared in my mind, why not they have the funeral for aborted children, instead of throw them in the trash?
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Because funerals are for babies, not for "fetuses" or "embryos" or "clumps of tissue." If they have a funeral, they are admitting that it was a baby. If they admit it was a baby, then they must confront the fact that they killed a baby, not just "removed fetal tissue".

I don't think the "clinics" are allowed to throw them away in the general trash now. They have to be disposed of as bio-hazard waste, which can't be mixed with regular trash.

Some of aborted baby parts are also sold to labs for medical use. Abortion clinics don't throw away all the babies because they can sell the body parts for profit. So they earn money thru charging for the abortion, and then they earn money from the labs for selling them the parts.

Abortion "clinics" are businesses.
 
Angel said:
Okay, beware this might may you cry as it did for me.
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I viewed many pictures from your link... :( I cannot beleive and cannot understand why mothers decided to have late abortion instead of early abortion?

I noticed that partial-birth abortion (late abortion) are common in America and wondering to myself why can´t they abort it as soon as they found out they are pregnant instead of wait sooo long????? :(

Why can´t doctor gave mothers drugs to push fetus out of her womb or C-Section if it´s late abortion?



 
PuyoPiyo said:
I have a question appeared in my mind, why not they have the funeral for aborted children, instead of throw them in the trash?
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Yes, I was shock when I saw the picture of fully develop human in the trash. I cannot understand it... I would bury fetus if doctor said he can´t do anything to save fetus´s life to protect my life.

My friend buried 6 months old dead fetus after surgery. The doctor respect her wish. Partial birth abortion banned in many Europe countries.

I am total against partial-birth abortion and cannot understand why mothers agreed to abort later than early if they really don´t want to have baby. ???
 
Reba said:
Because funerals are for babies, not for "fetuses" or "embryos" or "clumps of tissue." If they have a funeral, they are admitting that it was a baby. If they admit it was a baby, then they must confront the fact that they killed a baby, not just "removed fetal tissue".
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:eek3: My friend buried 6 months old fetus (stillbirth). The doctor did not pull and cut fetus into pieces but push fetus out of mother´s womb or C-Section...

I know some mothers buried fetuses (stillbirth, save mother´s risk life etc) but not few weeks before 12 weeks old.

I don't think the "clinics" are allowed to throw them away in the general trash now. They have to be disposed of as bio-hazard waste, which can't be mixed with regular trash.
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Partial-birth abortion is common in America. I remember the thread somewhere that Partial-birth abortion banned in America since 2003? It look like that they continue do with late abortion?

Some of aborted baby parts are also sold to labs for medical use. Abortion clinics don't throw away all the babies because they can sell the body parts for profit. So they earn money thru charging for the abortion, and then they earn money from the labs for selling them the parts.

Abortion "clinics" are businesses.
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Yes I remember your links at other thread... :cold: I cannot beleive it... If mother really love baby and want to keep it but she forced to decide for her life over fetus then bury her/him, why can´t she? Why can´t the doctor suggest the mother about funeral arrangement or go to labs like what the doctor did to my friend?
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Mann_K05 said:
My opinion, it's so rude to post with some nasty pictures.

If I were you, I would say "Go to google and to type 'abortion information' and try find some pictures of decreased fetuses." instead of posting some images here.
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Members are allowed to post such 'graphic photos' as long as a warning is given to acknowledge the fact that such photos may be deemed graphic to some and/or best not viewed at the work-place.

Otherwise, if such photos were in the Penisarium forum and even the On-Topic Debate forum, a brief notice in thread's title suggesting that such photos in that thread indicates 'graphic photos' is appropriate. As with the photo supplied in this thread, it was an illustration of a procedure, not an actual 'graphic photo'.



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Askjo said:
The abortion IS to kill unborn babies. Go ahead to read my previous post about these 2 stories in the Bible. (See #23)
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Sorry, but the word "abortion" is not in the bible. Where do you see that says abortion in the bible? I know it not there so as for my opinions woman have right to abort if she feel for own personal reasons. I have to respect that.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I viewed many pictures from your link... :( I cannot beleive and cannot understand why mothers decided to have late abortion instead of early abortion?

I noticed that partial-birth abortion (late abortion) are common in America and wondering to myself why can´t they abort it as soon as they found out they are pregnant instead of wait sooo long????? :(

Why can´t doctor gave mothers drugs to push fetus out of her womb or C-Section if it´s late abortion?
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Yeah, I have heard about abortion drug called " RU-486" , also the FDA did have a new warnings about abortion drugs that can cause death to some women when taking the RU-486 pill. "This is a dangerous drug that deserves to be pulled off the market immediately!" Because so many women that took it died. RU-486, which is known generically as mifepristone and is sold in the United States under the brand name Mifeprex, has been used by about 360,000 women in this country since the FDA approved its use in 2000. I don't trust that drug.
 
GarnetTigerMom said:
Yeah, I have heard about abortion drug called " RU-486" , also the FDA did have a new warnings about abortion drugs that can cause death to some women when taking the RU-486 pill. "This is a dangerous drug that deserves to be pulled off the market immediately!" Because so many women that took it died. RU-486, which is known generically as mifepristone and is sold in the United States under the brand name Mifeprex, has been used by about 360,000 women in this country since the FDA approved its use in 2000. I don't trust that drug.
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No, I am not talking about abortion pill. I talked about the doctor who gave the mother drugs which mean is do with transfusion to make mother labor and break water then push fetus out of womb.

Abortion pill banned in many European countries.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
The bible is a book, the relgious author wrote.

I beleive in reality.
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You forget one verse.

Matthew 4:4 (KJV)

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

This verse is very obvious to show that ALL the people on the earth is under the Word of God, the Bible - The God-speaking! Therefore the Bible is the reality. God is real. Is He real to you?
Yes, they did with surgery but she need to have chemo therapy. Did you know that chemo therapy could affect/kill fetus? That's why the doctor want to aviod it and want to save mother's life. The doctor advised her to have fetus removal that's time she was 13 weeks pregnant. She rejected and decided for fetus's life and thought she will have chemo therapy to beat cancer after birth to her daughter (earlier C-Section than birth date). Unfortunlately, it's too late. This is her decision for want to save fetus's life over her own life and her family.
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All she needs is to give up her life and to save her baby's life.
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GarnetTigerMom said:
Sorry, but the word "abortion" is not in the bible. Where do you see that says abortion in the bible? I know it not there so as for my opinions woman have right to abort if she feel for own personal reasons. I have to respect that.
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Moses' lifetime -- did he have the abortion, cars, airplanes, etc.?

Jesus' lifetime -- did he have the abortion, cars, airplanes, etc.?

Wait a minute! our current lifetime -- do we have the abortion, cars, airplanes, etc.?

See????

BUT the Bible said, "THOU SHALL NOT KILL"!!!

Moses's lifetime -- Kill? YES!

Jesus' lifetime -- Kill? YES!

Our current lifetime --Kill? YES!
 
Cheri said:
I hope you don't mean that. :( Is money has to be an issue, or the importance of human being?
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Unfortunately money will be an issue.

Funerals aren't cheap, especially if one has to buy a casket for a 6 year-old. They don't make caskets in that size.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I viewed many pictures from your link... :( I cannot beleive and cannot understand why mothers decided to have late abortion instead of early abortion?
I noticed that partial-birth abortion (late abortion) are common in America and wondering to myself why can´t they abort it as soon as they found out they are pregnant instead of wait sooo long????? :(

Why can´t doctor gave mothers drugs to push fetus out of her womb or C-Section if it´s late abortion?
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Because some women don't even know that they are pregnant to begin with.

My housekeeper, a wonderful worker, came to me, depressed, because she found out that she was 6 months pregnant and didn't want the baby....

So, some women don't know they are prenant until its too late.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
:eek3: My friend buried 6 months old fetus (stillbirth). The doctor did not pull and cut fetus into pieces but push fetus out of mother´s womb or C-Section...
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Your friend had a stillbirth, not an abortion. I was talking about what elective abortion clinics do.


Partial-birth abortion is common in America. I remember the thread somewhere that Partial-birth abortion banned in America since 2003? It look like that they continue do with late abortion?
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Yes, partial-birth abortions are illegal, and have been banned in the United States since 2003.

Why do you say it's still common in America?


Yes I remember your links at other thread... :cold: I cannot beleive it... If mother really love baby and want to keep it but she forced to decide for her life over fetus then bury her/him, why can´t she?
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In that situation, she can. But most women who get abortions aren't doing it for life-saving reasons, and they are told that it's not a baby. If they believe it's not a baby, then why would they want to bury it?


Why can´t the doctor suggest the mother about funeral arrangement or go to labs like what the doctor did to my friend?
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Because the people who work in abortion clinics deny that it's a baby. If it's not a baby, then why would they suggest a funeral?

Besides, the clinics don't make any money on funerals. That's all they care about is the money.
 
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