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[Reba]

Yes, I know... but what if they CANNOT afford for monthly payments when the bill is a huge?

They make arrangements for an affordable amount. Sometimes the social workers help negotiate.

$5 per week for $300 to $500 is a logical but $10,000? $5 per week for $10,000 bill?

Yep. Even for thousands.

But it shows their dishonest what they tried to charge you more when they thought you have an insurance.

It's because they want to get more from the insurance companies. Hospitals and doctors know that they can charge the insurance companies more.

 

[Reba]

I know what you are talking about. I repeat in my previous postS that I NEVER have any experience to have a long waiting list for surgery or whatever and then made an other subject to share my experience of visit to hospitail in USA over a long waiting HOURS, not LISTING. This is a difference....

The report on waiting lists for Canadian medical services showed periods of weeks and months waiting, not just a few hours.

 

[Reba]

Hillary plan is cheaper than you work to pay tax and then plus insurance for yourself.

Show me the money.

But you work to pay tax for medicare for many years before you are able to get medicare. I think Hillary´s plan is better.

Not better for me. It will cost more.

Show me some numbers to prove your point.

 

[Reba]

Accord my link...
First of all, with 2,200 heart transplants performed in the U.S. each year, the procedure is no longer considered experimental; most policies today cover it. More important, those patients whose policies place restrictions on their transplant coverage and those who have no insurance at all are not simply turned away. (Even prisoners are entitled; in January a 31-year-old felon serving time in a California prison received a heart transplant that it is estimated could cost that state's taxpayers some $400,000, if not more.) doesn´t sound fictional story to me...

That excerpt is not about the movie John Q.

If anything, that magazine article points out that the movie's premise was totally fake.


Magazine article: facts

Movie: fiction


OK?

 

[Reba]

This link, I provided about "Young to Die" is a true story. It written in DVD and also movie as well...

What on earth does that have to do with this topic?

Check my response post to Maria what I copied from John Q´s movie.

OK. It proves that the movie is fiction. I think we got it.

 

[Foxrac]

Hubby and I are both retired veterans. We use the VA hospital for our services. The services are not free. They are cheaper but they are not totally free. Our prescription meds are free from the military pharmacy.

It does not cover eye glasses, dental care, or non-prescription meds.

My dad is retired veteran (Marines) too and he was explained to me about benefit on retired veteran who hit 65 years or over, such as senior are receive benefit from military.

I'm means for benefit on senior citizen that who is retired veteran, even with spouse, not normal people who is under 65.

 

[Reba]

My dad is retired veteran (Marines) too and he was explained to me about benefit on retired veteran who hit 65 years or over, such as senior are receive benefit from military.

I'm means for benefit on senior citizen that who is retired veteran, even with spouse, not normal people who is under 65.

Yes, that's what I'm talking about, too. Hubby and I are both retired veterans (Navy). We use the veterans hospital for our medical services. We pay fees for those services. The only things we get free from the military are our prescription drugs.

I get veteran's services because I'm a veteran myself. I don't get any services as a spouse.

 

[Foxrac]

Yes, that's what I'm talking about, too. Hubby and I are both retired veterans (Navy). We use the veterans hospital for our medical services. We pay fees for those services. The only things we get free from the military are our prescription drugs.

I get veteran's services because I'm a veteran myself. I don't get any services as a spouse.

Oh really, children and other spouse (for example like mother) who are not retired veteran can get military ID since spouse like dad is retired veteran who live with them but their son and daughter will lose the military ID when after they are 18 and not in school, it did happened to me and I'm not worry about that.

 

[Reba]

Oh really, children and other spouse (for example like mother) who are not retired veteran can get military ID since spouse like dad is retired veteran who live with them but their son and daughter will lose the military ID when after they are 18 and not in school, it did happened to me and I'm not worry about that.

I have a retired veteran ID, and a dependent ID (as spouse of Hubby). My only ID benefits are using the hospital, getting prescriptions, using the commissary, exchange and recreational facilities, and sometimes getting discounts at some stores.

 

[fredfam1]

Yes, that's what I'm talking about, too. Hubby and I are both retired veterans (Navy). We use the veterans hospital for our medical services. We pay fees for those services. The only things we get free from the military are our prescription drugs.

I get veteran's services because I'm a veteran myself. I don't get any services as a spouse.

And the VA itself has set priorities on that care. Because I have a %40
service connected disability, my care costs me nothing, except for non
service connected issues which I would pay for,
and people with more of a disability get
priority care except for emergencies.

 

[Banjo]

What's illogical? That mom's can't wait for the baby to be born? The illogical point is putting expectant moms on waiting lists. Of course they can't wait, so they go to the USA to give birth to their babies.

Eh?

If the an expectant mother is still carrying her baby past the due date, she will be induced within two weeks. I know a lot of mothers who were induced. In fact, a lot of them set up appointments prior to the due date as a precaution.

 

[GarnetTigerMom]

Im NOT voting Hillary. My preferment is either Barrack Obama or John Edwards but I want General Wesley Clark back in the Democratic race. If General Clark comes back, Im for him all the way up to the Dem Convention in 2008.

Sorry I don't trust Obama and John Edwards since I can feel that they are not right for the job to run as president.

 

[Reba]

Eh?

If the an expectant mother is still carrying her baby past the due date, she will be induced within two weeks. I know a lot of mothers who were induced. In fact, a lot of them set up appointments prior to the due date as a precaution.

The report was talking about women with possible preemie or complicated births who had to wait for specialist pre-natal care. But the baby keeps developing and moving towards delivery without waiting for an appointment. Babies don't recognize appointments or waiting lines.

If mom knows the baby is due in two weeks, and the next available appointment is in five weeks, what good is that?

p.s. Sorry for the delay. We had a minor fire emergency here. OK now.

 

[Banjo]

The report was talking about women with possible preemie or complicated births who had to wait for specialist pre-natal care. But the baby keeps developing and moving towards delivery without waiting for an appointment. Babies don't recognize appointments or waiting lines.

If mom knows the baby is due in two weeks, and the next available appointment is in five weeks, what good is that?

In Ontario, you are given the option to get a midwife so they can check up on you on a frequent basis. Especially if you're concerned about these types of birth issues.

Anyway, that's not what I meant about the appointment. What I said was that if you don't deliver the baby after your due date, they will perform a forced birth within 2 weeks.

If your water breaks, you will get immediate attention. No doubt about that.

 

[Reba]

In Ontario, you are given the option to get a midwife so they can check up on you on a frequent basis. Especially if you're concerned about these types of birth issues.

Anyway, that's not what I meant about the appointment. What I said was that if you don't deliver the baby after your due date, they will perform a forced birth within 2 weeks.

If your water breaks, you will get immediate attention. No doubt about that.

Let's hope so! :P

I'm just presenting the report. You can take it or leave it. I'm not going to defend it or dispute it. I just wanted to show that there are two sides to this controversy.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Eh?

If the an expectant mother is still carrying her baby past the due date, she will be induced within two weeks. I know a lot of mothers who were induced. In fact, a lot of them set up appointments prior to the due date as a precaution.

In Ontario, you are given the option to get a midwife so they can check up on you on a frequent basis. Especially if you're concerned about these types of birth issues.

Anyway, that's not what I meant about the appointment. What I said was that if you don't deliver the baby after your due date, they will perform a forced birth within 2 weeks.

If your water breaks, you will get immediate attention. No doubt about that.

Yes it make sense. I know a lot of mothers like that in UK, too.

I know straight way it´s illogical when I read Reba´s link. I know that medias often write extreme and illogical things.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

How can you say that you listen to both sides, when you just stated that you don't trust one side? You contradict yourself.

Basically, you trust the media when it supports your argument, and you don't trust the media when it disputes your argument.

Where do you get the proof that "the media often make up stories?" If you really believe that, which stories do you choose to believe?

Do you think I buy the medias story about mothers-to-be go to USA to have their babies to aviod waiting list...

I can see that you tried to defend or dispute other countries. All what I do is stop and positive you what I know from my Canadian friends. I heard no complaints from them but medias... I rather to see canadians´ comments, to compare with media´s word, not just media.

That's why the moms come to the USA to deliver. They can't wait.

I bet GalaxyAngel will laugh your post, too because she is a Canadian and expect her baby next week.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

They make arrangements for an affordable amount. Sometimes the social workers help negotiate.

Sometimes mean is not always... no good...

Yep. Even for thousands.

It's because they want to get more from the insurance companies. Hospitals and doctors know that they can charge the insurance companies more.

What they did is dishonestly, period.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

What on earth does that have to do with this topic?

Good, I only want to make sure which DVD you referred to.

OK. It proves that the movie is fiction. I think we got it.

Yes, I showed Maria what my John Q movie says.

Anyway, I know before Maria thought that it´s true story that the movie is a fiction but those movie is a "wake-up" calling for everyone who don´t have health insurance.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Show me the money.



Not better for me. It will cost more.

Show me some numbers to prove your point.

You are an adult and know how to manage with money and how to compare the profit, don´t you?

What you beleive in is your choice.