Crack the myth: Reverse Audism does NOT exist.

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FireTiger said:
Didn't you say that a deaf person can believe the society lie that hearing is better then deaf?

Then they can act on this belief and do because it is what they think is true?

Like a cat raised by dogs might have dog behaviors, but is still a cat pretending to be a dog...
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The arguement here is "can a deaf practice reverse audism against hearing?"

Any person (hearing, deaf, blind) can practice audism. And when they are practicing audism it is always to the detriment of the deaf population or individual.
 
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Cheetah, quick, while there's still time, go back to your post 406 and change (three times/places) "autism" to "audism".
 
Tousi said:
Cheetah, quick, while there's still time, go back to your post 406 and change (three times/places) "autism" to "audism".
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I guess I am going through the shredder for sure!!! But, in this case I will do just that! Thanks!!!
 
Tousi said:
Cheetah, quick, while there's still time, go back to your post 406 and change (three times/places) "autism" to "audism".
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had to beat up my spell check about that... DO NOT 'AUTO-CORRECT' -add to dictionary...

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FireTiger said:
had to beat up my spell check about that... DO NOT 'AUTO-CORRECT' -add to dictionary...

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There is nothing like getting all fired up about a topic and have spell check make my arguements look... er... stupid? :shock:
 
I'm not sure I can add much to the conversation, but the way I think of things like racism and audism (although I don't understand what audism is, exactly), is to classify them under the category of "bigotry".

That racism is a form of bigotry and that audism is a form of bigotry.

Bigotry is a broad category.

Is it possible for others to be bigoted against others, even while suffering bigotry? I think that is possible.

Is it always the same forms of bigotry in reverse? Not necessarily.

I hope that doesn't stir the pot too much. Just the way I try to understand it at this point.
 
DeafBadger said:
I'm not sure I can add much to the conversation, but the way I think of things like racism and audism (although I don't understand what audism is, exactly), is to classify them under the category of "bigotry".

That racism is a form of bigotry and that audism is a form of bigotry.

Bigotry is a broad category.

Is it possible for others to be bigoted against others, even while suffering bigotry? I think that is possible.

Is it always the same forms of bigotry in reverse? Not necessarily.

I hope that doesn't stir the pot too much. Just the way I try to understand it at this point.
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You are on the right track, "reverse-(whatever)ism" however is not accurate under the broadest, or most compleate definition of (any-ism).

The is no 'loss of opportunity' if an (other) rejects/ is a bigot/ asshole -etc a person from (dominant group), the person (from dominant group) can always go just down the street for another opportunity.

The 'loss of opportunity' happens when (other) is being discriminated against because (dominant group) -thinks- that (other person) cannot do a job due to an unrelated condition.

"All out teachers have paraprofessionals to help in the classroom, but -you- can't teach even with a doctorate in education and a minor in early-childhood development because you can't ...um keep control of the class... (because you can't see)" (real occurrence-however, not me)
 
DeafBadger said:
I'm not sure I can add much to the conversation, but the way I think of things like racism and audism (although I don't understand what audism is, exactly), is to classify them under the category of "bigotry".

That racism is a form of bigotry and that audism is a form of bigotry.

Bigotry is a broad category.

Is it possible for others to be bigoted against others, even while suffering bigotry? I think that is possible.

Is it always the same forms of bigotry in reverse? Not necessarily.

I hope that doesn't stir the pot too much. Just the way I try to understand it at this point.
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I think audism lends itself more in the form of discrimination than bigotry. It encompases the whole idea of ignoring how a deaf person will interact with the world by the society (which is primarily made up of those with good hearing). To the point that many people do not even realize they are being detrimental to the deaf.

Bigotry is more of a prejudice against an idea or a group.
 
Cheetah said:
I think audism lends itself more in the form of discrimination than bigotry. It encompases the whole idea of ignoring how a deaf person will interact with the world by the society (which is primarily made up of those with good hearing). To the point that many people do not even realize they are being detrimental to the deaf.

Bigotry is more of a prejudice against an idea or a group.
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Hmm. I see your point.

I suppose, as an example, I could use my classroom experience at college right now.

Generally, hearies do not talk to me about the course. They will talk to each other though. One person will exclaim something about the material (I don't really hear it) and a conversation ensues. I don't hear the conversation, so I can't take part in it. Other hearies can take part from across the room, because they all hear each other.

I'm left sitting like a bump on a log because I don't know what they are saying. They could be comparing test results or clarifying a misunderstanding about the text book or lecture. The hearies benefit from that conversation, but I cannot.

Although the hearing students know I am d/hh, no one goes out of their way to inform me about the topic and conclusion of their conversation.

I would have to interject each and every time someone says something, "What did he say?" "What are you talking about?" Over and over again. Hearies don't like being asked that again and again, so after a while, one doesn't any more.

None of the hearies seem to be the least bit aware of this problem.

I suppose that is sort of what you are talking about, Cheetah?
 
DeafBadger said:
Hmm. I see your point.

I suppose, as an example, I could use my classroom experience at college right now.

Generally, hearies do not talk to me about the course. They will talk to each other though. One person will exclaim something about the material (I don't really hear it) and a conversation ensues. I don't hear the conversation, so I can't take part in it. Other hearies can take part from across the room, because they all hear each other.

I'm left sitting like a bump on a log because I don't know what they are saying. They could be comparing test results or clarifying a misunderstanding about the text book or lecture. The hearies benefit from that conversation, but I cannot.

Although the hearing students know I am d/hh, no one goes out of their way to inform me about the topic and conclusion of their conversation.

I would have to interject each and every time someone says something, "What did he say?" "What are you talking about?" Over and over again. Hearies don't like being asked that again and again, so after a while, one doesn't any more.

None of the hearies seem to be the least bit aware of this problem.

I suppose that is sort of what you are talking about, Cheetah?
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Yes, that is exactly it. You will note that no one "remembers" to look at you or speak clearly, or take turns speaking, ect... That is what happens in a society that places such high value on the ability to hear/speak. It make life twice as challenging as it needs to be.
 
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