WWIII has begin?

Steinhauer said:
We did. Japan made the attempt to apologize for pearl harbor for many many years. The US Armed Forces refused the apology. there was still too much hurt.

Eventually, a ceremony was held at the USS Arizona and the United States Government accepted Japan's apology. Then we apologized.
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we did?
 
Reba said:
Not interested in removing the blinders?

Well, then there's nothing more to be said.
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blinders? I suppose there's only one-sided truth to American's atomic bombing. Anything else is wrong and wrong.
 
Steinhauer said:
Our Armed Forces did. It was a closed ceremony, and I remember being a little boy when it happened. It was on the news.
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well........ of course the soldiers apologized and they do same for most armed conflicts but it's not exactly an official apology. It has to come from the President of United States.
 
Steinhauer said:
Our Armed Forces did. It was a closed ceremony, and I remember being a little boy when it happened. It was on the news.
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It wasn't the place of our armed forces to make an apology. Only the President can do that.

Did you read my link?
 
Jiro said:
blinders? I suppose there's only one-sided truth to American's atomic bombing. Anything else is wrong and wrong.
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Well, yes, you are wrong in ignoring what the Japanese did to millions of civilians. By ignoring that, you are ignoring the context of Truman's decision.
 
Reba said:
It wasn't the place of our armed forces to make an apology. Only the President can do that.

Did you read my link?
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Now I understand. No, the President never apologized. The surviving soldiers of the conflict had a closed ceremony at the USS Arizona. I remember it being a very big event when our armed forces accepted Japan's apology for Pearl Harbor. I also remember that our soldiers apologized for the bombings.

I was a kid when it happened.
 
Reba said:
Well, yes, you are wrong in ignoring what the Japanese did to millions of civilians. By ignoring that, you are ignoring the context of Truman's decision.
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what the Japanese did to millions of civilians was evil. What we did to Japanese civilians was...... ? (fill in the blank)
 
It will happen Jiro, just remember there is still a lot of hurt left. Many Americans feel that the bombings were justified as we were dragged into the war by a surprise attack.

If your ever in Brooklyn, let me know, perhaps my Uncle can discuss his experiences with you.

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Steinhauer said:
Jiro, you shared a story about your dad, so I feel a little compelled to share this story with you. My Uncle Warren from Brooklyn, New York was in the Pearl Harbor attack. He was one of two survivors of an LST that was sunk. He had amnesia for about 6 years after the attack. My nana (grandmother) thought he had died. So did my great grandmother.

Anyways, when he had recall, he found his way home in Brooklyn with an orderly. No one knew his name, even himself, he just remembered how to get home. My nana saw him walking down the street as she was sitting on the front stoop. She ran inside to tell her mother. Her mother told her, "its not him sweetie, its just someone that looks like him ... " when he knocked on the door.

My great grandmother, whom I never met, fainted.

There was a high hatred of the Japanese amongst Americans of that era. My uncle was one of those Americans.

Well, eventually the next generation of children were born. My nana's sister (my aunt) had twin boys. One serves in the Army and is in Iraq, his brother married a woman from japan ;)

Interesting no? My Uncle Warren had to swallow his old feelings of hurt to welcome her in the family.
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indeed very interesting! :ty: for sharing.

I'll repost again about my father's side. My grandfather was a high-ranking government official for Korea-Japan. At that time, it was one Korea. I think he heard about "communism brewin' up in North" so he packed up and moved to south. That's how I came to existence :)

Majority of Koreans (and me) have a very strong aversion to communism. That's why we participated in Vietnam War along with the Americans. It was said that VC feared Korean soldiers (ROK) much more than Americans.

about 312,000 South Korean soldiers fought in Vietnam (2nd largest force in Vietnam alongside with America and the last out) and killed over 41,000 VC. Could be more if it weren't for lack of communication due to language barrier.

ROK soldiers were known for being tough and merciless. There are many stories about ROK especially ruthless interrogations in search and destroy missions that scared Americans. You know that when it comes to sweeping villages for weapon caches and spies, it's painstaking to vet each civilian. The Americans were not effective at it. Because of ROK's ruthless and merciless interrogation methods that included silent killings, this struck fear into enemy.

interesting story yet gritty. too bad nobody knew :dunno:
 
Steinhauer said:
It will happen Jiro, just remember there is still a lot of hurt left. Many Americans feel that the bombings were justified as we were dragged into the war by a surprise attack.

If your ever in Brooklyn, let me know, perhaps my Uncle can discuss his experiences with you.

warren.jpg
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:ty: I'm always in Brooklyn. I'm surrounded by veterans.
 
Jiro said:
indeed very interesting! :ty: for sharing.

I'll repost again about my father's side. My grandfather was a high-ranking government official for Korea-Japan. At that time, it was one Korea. I think he heard about "communism brewin' up in North" so he packed up and moved to south. That's how I came to existence :)

Majority of Koreans (and me) have a very strong aversion to communism. That's why we participated in Vietnam War along with the Americans. It was said that VC feared Korean soldiers (ROK) much more than Americans.

about 312,000 South Korean soldiers fought in Vietnam (2nd largest force in Vietnam alongside with America and the last out) and killed over 41,000 VC. Could be more if it weren't for lack of communication due to language barrier.

ROK soldiers were known for being tough and merciless. There are many stories about ROK especially ruthless interrogations in search and destroy missions that scared Americans. You know that when it comes to sweeping villages for weapon caches and spies, it's painstaking to vet each civilian. The Americans were not effective at it. Because of ROK's ruthless and merciless interrogation methods that included silent killings, this struck fear into enemy.

interesting story yet gritty. too bad nobody knew :dunno:
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I would like to know more about that. I have a deaf friend from Taiwan that mentioned his disappointment with US History books.

We learn much more about what happened in Europe than we ever did about what happened in Asia during WWII.
 
or even the killing fields.

The Killing Fields were a number of sites in Cambodia where large numbers of people were killed and buried by the Khmer Rouge regime, during its rule of the country from 1975 to 1979, immediately after the end of the Vietnam War.

Analysis of 20,000 mass grave sites by the DC-Cam Mapping Program and Yale University indicate at least 1,386,734 victims.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_Fields
 
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