'Don't ask, don't tell' policy ruled unconstitutional

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(CNN) -- A federal court in Riverside, California, ruled Thursday that the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy -- which bars gay men and lesbians from serving openly -- is unconstitutional.

"Plaintiff has demonstrated it is entitled to the relief sought on behalf of its members, a judicial declaration that the don't ask, don't tell act violates the Fifth and First Amendments, and a permanent injunction barring its enforcement," concluded U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips, a 1999 Clinton appointee.

The 85-page ruling came in a case filed by the group Log Cabin Republicans against the government and Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates.

"The act discriminates based on the content of the speech being regulated," Phillips wrote. "It distinguishes between speech regarding sexual orientation, and inevitably, family relationships and daily activities, by and about gay and lesbian servicemembers, which is banned, and speech on those subjects by and about heterosexual servicemembers, which is permitted."

But, she noted, "the sweeping reach of the restrictions on speech in the don't ask, don't tell act is far broader than is reasonably necessary to protect the substantial government interest at stake here."

Then, citing examples provided by witnesses, she concluded that "the act's restrictions on speech not only are broader than reasonably necessary to protect the government's substantial interests, but also actually serve to impede military readiness and unit cohesion rather than further these goals."

The next step is expected to be for the government to ask for a temporary injunction to prevent the ruling from going into immediate effect, pending further appeals. The government at some point in the next few weeks or months would then file a petition with the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, which is based in San Francisco, for a hearing. If the government were to lose, its next step would be to the Supreme Court.

But since the Pentagon and White House have signaled their intention to end don't ask, don't tell, with congressional approval, Thursday's ruling may be viewed in a different light.

Servicemembers United, which describes itself as the nation's largest organization of gay and lesbian troops and veterans, hailed the announcement.

"This is an historic moment and an historic ruling for the gay military community and for the readiness and integrity of our armed forces," said Alexander Nicholson, executive director of the group and a former multi-lingual U.S. Army interrogator who was discharged under don't ask, don't tell.

"As the only named injured party in this case, I am exceedingly proud to have been able to represent all who have been impacted and had their lives ruined by this blatantly unconstitutional policy. We are finally on our way to vindication."

'Don't ask, don't tell' policy ruled unconstitutional - CNN.com

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Judge orders military to stop enforcing 'don't ask, don't tell'

(CNN) -- A federal judge on Tuesday ordered the U.S. military to stop enforcing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, putting an end to the ban on openly gay troops.

U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips' permanent worldwide injunction -- praised by gay rights organizations -- orders the military "immediately to suspend and discontinue any investigation, or discharge, separation, or other proceeding, that may have been commenced" under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

The judge, a Clinton appointee based in the Central District of California, previously ruled that the policy regarding gays serving in the military violated service members' Fifth Amendment rights to due process and freedom of speech, but had delayed issuing the injunction.

The military was sued by Log Cabin Republicans, a gay rights group.
Justice Department spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler would say only that the department is "reviewing the ruling." The department has 60 days to appeal, but is not required to do so.

The Defense Department is reviewing the ruling to determine whether it has immediate impact and is consulting with the Justice Department, Pentagon spokeswoman Cynthia Smith said.

Air Force lawyers in a recent case argued the military -- not the courts -- is in the best position to evaluate and enforce the "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

President Barack Obama is pushing for a repeal of the controversial policy. A bill currently before Congress would overturn the measure after a Pentagon review is completed in December.

In her ruling Tuesday, Phillips stated the policy infringes on the rights of military personnel. "Furthermore, there is no adequate remedy at law to prevent the continued violation of servicemembers' rights or to compensate them for violation of their rights," the judge wrote.

More than 12,500 people have been booted from the military since "don't ask, don't tell" went into effect. Along with barring known gay, lesbian and bisexual individuals from serving, the policy prevents the military from asking them about it.

Log Cabin Republicans praised the ruling but urged "caution by servicemembers considering coming out at this time, as the Obama administration still has the option to appeal."

The group said the ruling is a victory for strong national defense.
"No longer will our military be compelled to discharge servicemembers with valuable skills and experience because of an archaic policy mandating irrational discrimination," it said in a statement following the ruling.

Servicemembers United, which describes itself as the nation's largest organization of gay and lesbian troops and veterans, also hailed the judge's ruling but urged gays who serve to be careful about coming out now.

"This order from Judge Phillips is another historic and courageous step in the right direction, a step that Congress has been noticeably slow in taking," said executive director Alexander Nicholson.

Aaron Belkin, director of the Palm Center, a research institute of the University of California-Santa Barbara, said he expects the Obama administration to appeal Tuesday's order.

"The case could be done next week if the administration decides not to appeal, or it could take five years if there is an appeal, or Congress could move faster than the Justice Department, which would render this case moot," said Belkin, whose institute researches sexual minorities in the military and advocates an end to the ban.

Judge orders military to stop enforcing 'don't ask, don't tell' - CNN.com
 
Very interesting. Personally, I don't like the idea of using the courts to repeal this, but progress has to happen somehow...
 
Im looking forward to the day that the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy is ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court as well as state laws barring same sex couples from getting married and adopting children as unconstitutional.

We can thank regressive groups such as 'Focus On The Family' for these impeding acts that only make homosexuals want to leave America for the rights they should already be enjoying. Homosexuals are just as human and American as any man or woman living and serving in this country.
 
I don't like the precedence of courts deciding how the military should be run. We have a Commander in Chief who is supposed to be in charge of the military.

Why didn't Obama, as Commander in Chief, simply make an Executive Order abolishing "don't ask, don't tell" the way Truman abolished segregation in the military?
 
Im looking forward to the day that the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy is ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court as well as state laws barring same sex couples from getting married and adopting children as unconstitutional.

We can thank regressive groups such as 'Focus On The Family' for these impeding acts that only make homosexuals want to leave America for the rights they should already be enjoying. Homosexuals are just as human and American as any man or woman living and serving in this country.

It won't make any difference because DADT is only for military.
 
I don't like the precedence of courts deciding how the military should be run. We have a Commander in Chief who is supposed to be in charge of the military.

Why didn't Obama, as Commander in Chief, simply make an Executive Order abolishing "don't ask, don't tell" the way Truman abolished segregation in the military?

Obama can't because DADT is an act of Congress.

It need court, congress or Pentagon to repeal it.
 
Obama can't because DADT is an act of Congress.

It need court, congress or Pentagon to repeal it.
Then why did Obama say, “I will end ‘don’t ask-don’t tell’”?
Obama pledges to end Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy in the military - Michael Roston - Newsbroke - True/Slant

He also said he would "work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are."
Obama Vows to Repeal 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' | PBS NewsHour | Jan. 28, 2010 | PBS
 
It won't make any difference because DADT is only for military.

It WILL TOO make a difference. As it stands now, a court can STILL overturn today's ruling. If the Supreme Court rules on it, NO court can overturn the ruling. As for it only applying to the military, that's kind of a slap in the face. This is about equality. This ruling, if it stands, means that all gay people can openly serve in the military without punity.
 
I don't like the precedence of courts deciding how the military should be run. We have a Commander in Chief who is supposed to be in charge of the military.

Why didn't Obama, as Commander in Chief, simply make an Executive Order abolishing "don't ask, don't tell" the way Truman abolished segregation in the military?

An Executive Order certainly would have made things much simpler.

Wasn't it an Executive Order that put Don't Ask, Don't Tell in place in the first place?

EDIT:

It was a Congressional order that enacted Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/usc-cgi/get_external.cgi?type=pubL&target=103-160
 
Then why did Obama say, “I will end ‘don’t ask-don’t tell’”?
Obama pledges to end Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy in the military - Michael Roston - Newsbroke - True/Slant

He also said he would "work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are."
Obama Vows to Repeal 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' | PBS NewsHour | Jan. 28, 2010 | PBS

Obama can do it but only encourage congress to repeal the DADT, however progress to repeal the DADT in congress has been slow right now due filibuster from senate.
 
If DADT is repealed then it will set the bar for other government branches that have a similar policy, this isn't the homophobic 1940's anymore. If our country is supposed to be an all-inclusive opportunistic country then this blatant homophobic policy has got to be repealed. As stated before, if DADT is repealed it will get the ball rolling for equal rights in other arenas such as marriage and adoption.
 
If DADT is repealed then it will set the bar for other government branches that have a similar policy, this isn't the homophobic 1940's anymore. If our country is supposed to be an all-inclusive opportunistic country then this blatant homophobic policy has got to be repealed. As stated before, if DADT is repealed it will get the ball rolling for equal rights in other arenas such as marriage and adoption.

no. it's not the same. Soldier World and Civilian World.

In civilian world, they are free to co-exist with homosexual people and they are also free to not to. In soldier world - they do not have that choice. They're stuck with them for a long period of time - everyday. A privilege that only civilians have so if the homosexuality issue is affecting soldiers' morale... this is a serious threat to national security and war effort. Lives are at stake.

The Law of Society does not always work well with the Law of Jungle.
 
I don't like the precedence of courts deciding how the military should be run. We have a Commander in Chief who is supposed to be in charge of the military.

Why didn't Obama, as Commander in Chief, simply make an Executive Order abolishing "don't ask, don't tell" the way Truman abolished segregation in the military?

But you are okay with the military determining the way one decides to communicate their personal sexual orientation?
 
But you are okay with the military determining the way one decides to communicate their personal sexual orientation?
First of all, what do you mean by "the way one decides to communicate their personal sexual orientation?"
 
no. it's not the same. Soldier World and Civilian World.

In civilian world, they are free to co-exist with homosexual people and they are also free to not to. In soldier world - they do not have that choice. They're stuck with them for a long period of time - everyday. A privilege that only civilians have so if the homosexuality issue is affecting soldiers' morale... this is a serious threat to national security and war effort. Lives are at stake.

The Law of Society does not always work well with the Law of Jungle.

It is an all-volunteer military Jiro, those who enlist CHOOSE to put themselves in this position. I don't see where ones sexual orientation would affect another soldier's morale. Besides I am told by former soldiers that within a group/class it is known among the members who is homosexual and who is not, it is just not openly mentioned. Many times the direct commander is aware of the orientation and as long as the soldier(s) in question put forth their effort to support the team then that commander will cover for them as much as possible. The only time such a commander would bring this to the attention of higher ranking officers is if there was a serious flaw in the conduct, morals, and ethics of a particular soldier; or if the soldier decided the military is not for them and opt to use their orientation as a way to get discharged. Not what I know, just what I have been told by a friend of mine who is lesbian and served in the military a short while before using her orientation to get discharged once she realized the military was not her calling. Her direct superior knew of her orientation but did not report it until it was requested to get discharged. Once it was reported and proven, she was dishonorably discharged. She was in for less than a year.
 
First of all, what do you mean by "the way one decides to communicate their personal sexual orientation?"

You do understand the limitations imposed by "Don't ask, don't tell" don't you?
 
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