I have the solution the the Captioning in theaters problem!

RonJaxon · 07-15-2009, 12:48 AM

As I'm sure you all know. It can be hard to find a movie theater with captioned movies. Even those that do I'm not really happy with the rear window captioning method. The closest theater that has it to my home is about an hour and a half drive away.

The problem they face is some people can't stand to see subtitles on a movie screen and at the same time some of us have to have them in order to enjoy the movie. So the solution has to be one in which only those who need or desire them will be able to see the captions.

I have a solution. It would be totally invisible to everyone who doesn't want to see it but for those that do it'll be as visibly as it is on your own TV screen. You won't have to put anything on the seat in front of you. The solution is inexpensive to make and easy for them to set up. In fact it makes use of something that many theaters already have.

Now for the reason I'm posting this. I've given this method some limited testing (Just using home made from things I have in my home). But I need to find the right people to talk to about this to take the next step. So here's my question.

Do any of you know who I should contact about this? About the issue of closed captioning in theaters and who might be "looking" for a solution to employ?

Any advice or suggestions would be great. Forgive me for not just sharing the solution publicly. Maybe it's because I'm a magician and am use to keeping my ideas hush hush publicly but I promise that I will let you all know what this is once I talk to the right people and get things started on it.

Ron Jaxon

***VamPyroX*** · 07-15-2009, 01:47 AM

Why not talk with the companies that provide closed captioning?

Buffalo · 07-15-2009, 03:18 AM

Have it copyright first before talking to the Closed-caption people.

Nathan · 07-15-2009, 07:47 AM

Speaking for deaf rights, then go do it what you think is best with the idea you have.

Nathan · 07-15-2009, 07:48 AM

Even though it sounds as you are talking those those 3-D glasses....

PowerON · 07-15-2009, 10:24 AM

Just don't ever go to movie theatre and await until it release on DVD to watch at home. Save cost and trouble.

Buffalo · 07-15-2009, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

Just don't ever go to movie theatre and await until it release on DVD to watch at home. Save cost and trouble.

That's what I am doing. Also I get to watch the movie over and over anytime I want to.

whatdidyousay! · 07-15-2009, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonJaxon

As I'm sure you all know. It can be hard to find a movie theater with captioned movies. Even those that do I'm not really happy with the rear window captioning method. The closest theater that has it to my home is about an hour and a half drive away.

The problem they face is some people can't stand to see subtitles on a movie screen and at the same time some of us have to have them in order to enjoy the movie. So the solution has to be one in which only those who need or desire them will be able to see the captions.

I have a solution. It would be totally invisible to everyone who doesn't want to see it but for those that do it'll be as visibly as it is on your own TV screen. You won't have to put anything on the seat in front of you. The solution is inexpensive to make and easy for them to set up. In fact it makes use of something that many theaters already have.

Now for the reason I'm posting this. I've given this method some limited testing (Just using home made from things I have in my home). But I need to find the right people to talk to about this to take the next step. So here's my question.

Do any of you know who I should contact about this? About the issue of closed captioning in theaters and who might be "looking" for a solution to employ?

Any advice or suggestions would be great. Forgive me for not just sharing the solution publicly. Maybe it's because I'm a magician and am use to keeping my ideas hush hush publicly but I promise that I will let you all know what this is once I talk to the right people and get things started on it.

Ron Jaxon

I did not know some movie theaters had CC! I stop going out to see movies
as it cost so much money. It was not worth spending the money when I can't hear half the movie!

Etoile · 07-16-2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Even though it sounds as you are talking those those 3-D glasses....

That's what it sounds like to me, too. Special glasses you wear that shows only the captions.

Bottesini · 07-16-2009, 12:27 AM

I already wear glasses, and I would not want to add cardboard glasses on top of that.

Nathan · 07-16-2009, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

I already wear glasses, and I would not want to add cardboard glasses on top of that.

RonJaxon · 07-16-2009, 03:15 AM

Thanks for the replies.

The comment about 3D glasses. You are very close but not quite. That's just along the right lines of thinking that I first thought that started the end solution. In truth the 3D glasses thing as is will not work for this.

On the comment about not wanting to wear cardboard glasses. Even if it was that you must not have seen a 3D movie in years. Modern 3D glasses aren't like that anymore (Some TV specials and theme parks still use them though). In fact they have strips of vinyl that you can just stick to the lens of your eye glasses for that now.

Bottesini · 07-16-2009, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonJaxon

Thanks for the replies.

The comment about 3D glasses. You are very close but not quite. That's just along the right lines of thinking that I first thought that started the end solution. In truth the 3D glasses thing as is will not work for this.

On the comment about not wanting to wear cardboard glasses. Even if it was that you must not have seen a 3D movie in years. Modern 3D glasses aren't like that anymore (Some TV specials and theme parks still use them though). In fact they have strips of vinyl that you can just stick to the lens of your eye glasses for that now.

You are right, I have only had them for SpyKids on TV.

LDNanna · 07-16-2009, 08:45 PM

Wow, I hope you can get this going. I would love to go back to the theater and actually follow a plot. (or at least dialogue)

BecLak · 07-23-2009, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bottesini

I already wear glasses, and I would not want to add cardboard glasses on top of that.

I also was thinking it might be like 3D glasses and I also thought the same as Bottesini as I used to wear glasses too.

I too, usually wait until the DVD is out as they have CCs built in and also because I can watch it over and over again, saving cost as well.

But then, there are those who like the 'big screen' theater feeling and the chance to enjoy the experience with others. I do that sometimes too for the sake of my family.

To all us like-minds.....

So a new invention for CCs in theaters, by someone who understands the true purpose of CCs should have a thumbs up!

Can't wait to know the results.

rockdrummer · 07-24-2009, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Even though it sounds as you are talking those those 3-D glasses....

I was thinking 3D glasses too

Tousi · 07-24-2009, 04:22 AM

Actually, you should get this thing patented before talking to anyone; then look for a manufacturer. That's the short of it.

Nathan · 07-24-2009, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

Actually, you should get this thing patented before talking to anyone; then look for a manufacturer. That's the short of it.

Yes, Patent, to prevent copyrights.

RonJaxon · 07-24-2009, 08:02 PM

Thank you everyone.

I'm wondering about this patent thing. Don't get me wrong. I'm always up to making money when I can but when it comes to this my main goal is to see it installed in theaters. Should I still worry about patent when it comes to this? I don't want to look like I just want money for this. I mainly want to see it offered in theaters.

Oh and there's one issue I need to work out. You know how when subtitles are white over a white background the text can't be seen? This is why TV closed captioned have a black background and most subtitles have a black border. Well, so far I don't think my method will work with multiply colors. It might still be possible but so far no luck with my limited knowledge on it. Which is one of the reasons I'm seeking help on it.

If any of you have any ideas to explore on the text color issue let me know.

zerodog · 07-25-2009, 11:20 AM

My wife and I love the 3D glasses caption better than on screen because it right close my face and can read easy... since the DVD get popular with 3D as best quality for blu ray, so we use 3D glass often when they make 3D thing

So It would be nice some cover screen that no one see it but wear 3D and can see it... it would be nice...

KristinaB · 07-25-2009, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

Just don't ever go to movie theatre and await until it release on DVD to watch at home. Save cost and trouble.

Some movies, even new releases don't come captioned on DVD. I'm running into that with Harry Potter and Twilight and some others. IT doesn't say it has captiones, the DVD player can run what's not there, but the Playstation 2 sometimes can. Go figure!!

I've basically given up on movies and TV. (I do have 3 TV's with captioning capabilities) I'd just rather read the books if available.

yizuman · 07-25-2009, 10:21 PM

Be careful before you patient it and stuff...

Some jaggoffs will patient an idea and let it get buried in red tape.

Then wait for someone else come up with the same idea, patent it and copyright it. When the person makes a buttload of money, the original patent holder will file a lawsuit for millions.

It's a lazy way to make money.

Yiz

Passionate4ASL · 07-25-2009, 10:39 PM

I hope patient works for you! When it is finished don't forget to share with use here.

rockdrummer · 07-26-2009, 03:00 PM

My TV has totally customizable CC display. I have several fonts and sizes to choose from. I can change the text and background color in addition to the ability to adjust the opacity of the background. I am fairly sure that technology would be available in newer theaters. You should get a patent. If you don't, someone else will and then they could issue you a cease and disist order. I respect your willingness to do it just to get it done but you have to make sure you protect yourself too. Beware of patent scammers out there too. I would go to a patent lawyer if you are serious about persuing a patent.

webexplorer · 07-26-2009, 07:23 PM

It also requires you to get an approval from FDA. It would be an awful expensive for you to get started.

In a general idea, it might cost you the range from $10,000 to $50,000. After that, you will have to go thru the process for your patent that would take 3 to 15 years to complete and approved because thousands of applications are mailed to the Patent Company every month. Oh, that's another big fee. Plus, you might have to pay your lawyer for your patent paperwork so that no one steals your documents. (I read about it on a government website a few years ago.)

It's because, for example, your TV equipment might interfere someone who has a pacemaker or some people who carry their inhaler device (microchip) in a movie theater. It's no joke. I think that you should avoid the complication for the wireless, and just use the wire to plug it. Otherwise, you might be sued at the theater. I don't mean to scare you, but be wise and think twice.

If you ignore the FDA, then I don't know what would happen, but I am sure that they will find you and penalize you a big fine. That's why I don't like the FDA because it cost too much money.

whatdidyousay! · 07-26-2009, 08:07 PM

Do have a solution for watching shows on TV that have no CC? I like to watch the old shows from the 50's and CC was not out then and the station running the shows are not able to put CC in ! I called Comcast and the woman this

Silentwolfdog · 07-26-2009, 11:06 PM

Captioning Visor...that sounds a bit awkward when it comes to watching movies. I can see it when talking to people but I would assume it's a bit different situation. Well anything that's better than rear window captioning, I'll take.

whatdidyousay! · 07-27-2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonJaxon

Thank you everyone.

I'm wondering about this patent thing. Don't get me wrong. I'm always up to making money when I can but when it comes to this my main goal is to see it installed in theaters. Should I still worry about patent when it comes to this? I don't want to look like I just want money for this. I mainly want to see it offered in theaters.

Oh and there's one issue I need to work out. You know how when subtitles are white over a white background the text can't be seen? This is why TV closed captioned have a black background and most subtitles have a black border. Well, so far I don't think my method will work with multiply colors. It might still be possible but so far no luck with my limited knowledge on it. Which is one of the reasons I'm seeking help on it.

If any of you have any ideas to explore on the text color issue let me know.

You should watch the movie called " flash of genius" . It about the guy who came up with idea the intermittent windshield wiper and Detroit automakers steal the guy idea! It may show how to made sure this does not happen to you!

RonJaxon · 07-29-2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

Do have a solution for watching shows on TV that have no CC? I like to watch the old shows from the 50's and CC was not out then and the station running the shows are not able to put CC in ! I called Comcast and the woman this

Yes, I do have a solution to this.

You can also watch TV episodes on line. Then use the information in this post to find the matching subtitles and watch them on your computer.

A good source to find the TV shows and movies is http://ipb.quicksilverscreen.com/index.php

There are sections there on that forum for TV shows that you can search and request them as well.

TechBill · 07-30-2009, 04:39 PM

If your thinking about color blind captions which are visible when you are wearing a certain filtered glasses, It been tested and tried in the past, trying googling and you might get hit results on about it. I think the problem with this method is that you have to be sitting close to the screen to see the captions. Last I heard about this was probably in the middle 90's so perhaps they have better filters now days to try.

Also it been tested where you wear a special glasses which actually display caption on it, sort of like those TV glasses back in the late 90's. Again googling will proably get you some result on it too.

I think it even possible now day to create a glasses that is lightweight and wireless to be able to display some caption on the lens compare to the bunky ones back in the late 90's where you had to wear a box on the belt and plug it into a jack in the seat.

.

07-15-2009, 12:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
RonJaxon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 210	I have the solution the the Captioning in theaters problem! As I'm sure you all know. It can be hard to find a movie theater with captioned movies. Even those that do I'm not really happy with the rear window captioning method. The closest theater that has it to my home is about an hour and a half drive away. The problem they face is some people can't stand to see subtitles on a movie screen and at the same time some of us have to have them in order to enjoy the movie. So the solution has to be one in which only those who need or desire them will be able to see the captions. I have a solution. It would be totally invisible to everyone who doesn't want to see it but for those that do it'll be as visibly as it is on your own TV screen. You won't have to put anything on the seat in front of you. The solution is inexpensive to make and easy for them to set up. In fact it makes use of something that many theaters already have. Now for the reason I'm posting this. I've given this method some limited testing (Just using home made from things I have in my home). But I need to find the right people to talk to about this to take the next step. So here's my question. Do any of you know who I should contact about this? About the issue of closed captioning in theaters and who might be "looking" for a solution to employ? Any advice or suggestions would be great. Forgive me for not just sharing the solution publicly. Maybe it's because I'm a magician and am use to keeping my ideas hush hush publicly but I promise that I will let you all know what this is once I talk to the right people and get things started on it. Ron Jaxon

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RonJaxon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 210	Thanks for the replies. The comment about 3D glasses. You are very close but not quite. That's just along the right lines of thinking that I first thought that started the end solution. In truth the 3D glasses thing as is will not work for this. On the comment about not wanting to wear cardboard glasses. Even if it was that you must not have seen a 3D movie in years. Modern 3D glasses aren't like that anymore (Some TV specials and theme parks still use them though). In fact they have strips of vinyl that you can just stick to the lens of your eye glasses for that now.

07-16-2009, 08:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
LDNanna Everything purple is mine Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 887	Wow, I hope you can get this going. I would love to go back to the theater and actually follow a plot. (or at least dialogue)

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,572	Actually, you should get this thing patented before talking to anyone; then look for a manufacturer. That's the short of it.

07-24-2009, 08:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
RonJaxon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 210	Thank you everyone. I'm wondering about this patent thing. Don't get me wrong. I'm always up to making money when I can but when it comes to this my main goal is to see it installed in theaters. Should I still worry about patent when it comes to this? I don't want to look like I just want money for this. I mainly want to see it offered in theaters. Oh and there's one issue I need to work out. You know how when subtitles are white over a white background the text can't be seen? This is why TV closed captioned have a black background and most subtitles have a black border. Well, so far I don't think my method will work with multiply colors. It might still be possible but so far no luck with my limited knowledge on it. Which is one of the reasons I'm seeking help on it. If any of you have any ideas to explore on the text color issue let me know.

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rockdrummer Weapon of mass percussion Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago area Posts: 4,086	My TV has totally customizable CC display. I have several fonts and sizes to choose from. I can change the text and background color in addition to the ability to adjust the opacity of the background. I am fairly sure that technology would be available in newer theaters. You should get a patent. If you don't, someone else will and then they could issue you a cease and disist order. I respect your willingness to do it just to get it done but you have to make sure you protect yourself too. Beware of patent scammers out there too. I would go to a patent lawyer if you are serious about persuing a patent.

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webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 4,502	It also requires you to get an approval from FDA. It would be an awful expensive for you to get started. In a general idea, it might cost you the range from $10,000 to $50,000. After that, you will have to go thru the process for your patent that would take 3 to 15 years to complete and approved because thousands of applications are mailed to the Patent Company every month. Oh, that's another big fee. Plus, you might have to pay your lawyer for your patent paperwork so that no one steals your documents. (I read about it on a government website a few years ago.) It's because, for example, your TV equipment might interfere someone who has a pacemaker or some people who carry their inhaler device (microchip) in a movie theater. It's no joke. I think that you should avoid the complication for the wireless, and just use the wire to plug it. Otherwise, you might be sued at the theater. I don't mean to scare you, but be wise and think twice. If you ignore the FDA, then I don't know what would happen, but I am sure that they will find you and penalize you a big fine. That's why I don't like the FDA because it cost too much money.

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whatdidyousay! Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 746	Do have a solution for watching shows on TV that have no CC? I like to watch the old shows from the 50's and CC was not out then and the station running the shows are not able to put CC in ! I called Comcast and the woman this

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TechBill Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 838	If your thinking about color blind captions which are visible when you are wearing a certain filtered glasses, It been tested and tried in the past, trying googling and you might get hit results on about it. I think the problem with this method is that you have to be sitting close to the screen to see the captions. Last I heard about this was probably in the middle 90's so perhaps they have better filters now days to try. Also it been tested where you wear a special glasses which actually display caption on it, sort of like those TV glasses back in the late 90's. Again googling will proably get you some result on it too. I think it even possible now day to create a glasses that is lightweight and wireless to be able to display some caption on the lens compare to the bunky ones back in the late 90's where you had to wear a box on the belt and plug it into a jack in the seat. .

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