I have the solution the the Captioning in theaters problem! - Page 2

TechBill · 07-30-2009, 05:23 PM

Here a list of patients on method to provide caption in movie theatre.

Captioning system and method - Patent 7414698

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RonJaxon · 07-30-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TechBill

If your thinking about color blind captions which are visible when you are wearing a certain filtered glasses, It been tested and tried in the past, trying googling and you might get hit results on about it. I think the problem with this method is that you have to be sitting close to the screen to see the captions. Last I heard about this was probably in the middle 90's so perhaps they have better filters now days to try.

Also it been tested where you wear a special glasses which actually display caption on it, sort of like those TV glasses back in the late 90's. Again googling will proably get you some result on it too.

I think it even possible now day to create a glasses that is lightweight and wireless to be able to display some caption on the lens compare to the bunky ones back in the late 90's where you had to wear a box on the belt and plug it into a jack in the seat.

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You're talking about micro displays. You can use them right now in theaters if you have a small computer. An iphone might even work with the right App. All you'd have to do is download the subtitles online (They are usually available about a week after movies hit the theaters so you still won't make opening night).

Next you make a movie file that your computer can play that supports subtitles. But the movie is made of just a black background image. So the video will play but there's no picture and it'll display the subtitles. You can do this now with an iPhone but you'll have to look down at the phone and back up at the movie. That's not easy but its' possible. If you plug a micro display into the iphone (or any small computer with the right software) then you have what you where describing.

TechBill - Thanks for the link. So far my idea isn't there.

TechBill · 07-31-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RonJaxon

You're talking about micro displays. You can use them right now in theaters if you have a small computer. An iphone might even work with the right App. All you'd have to do is download the subtitles online (They are usually available about a week after movies hit the theaters so you still won't make opening night).

Next you make a movie file that your computer can play that supports subtitles. But the movie is made of just a black background image. So the video will play but there's no picture and it'll display the subtitles. You can do this now with an iPhone but you'll have to look down at the phone and back up at the movie. That's not easy but its' possible. If you plug a micro display into the iphone (or any small computer with the right software) then you have what you where describing.

TechBill - Thanks for the link. So far my idea isn't there.

That is the second one I was talking about

The first one I was talking about is color-blind caption ... The caption is already printed on the movie negitive but it in color blind spetreme area which naked human eyes that cannot see it unless they wear glasses that have filter to make those colors visible to them.

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webexplorer · 07-31-2009, 12:59 PM

It seems that RonJaxon ran of his out of luck.

deafannieboo · 07-31-2009, 04:51 PM

hmmm what about the billy mays type people who can help u with your idea or invetions. or is it to much in the creative idea stage qq i do hope the best for you. us deafies need something updated to enjoy movie in theaters. i havent gone in couple yrs but i love to sit at theater popcorn and drink w big screen. i love big screen i hate not seeing screen well. but renting dvd is cheaper and can watch over and over again but i miss theaters.
my suggestion is try to find out someone like billy mays type thing and talk to people who do captions and see if you cant get any ideas and talk to patent people but dont give them ur idea just yet till u know for a hard fact that ur device or idea will work. yes there lot of red tape sometimes. just research well. good luck. best wishes.

TechBill · 07-31-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by deafannieboo

hmmm what about the billy mays type people who can help u with your idea or invetions. or is it to much in the creative idea stage qq i do hope the best for you. us deafies need something updated to enjoy movie in theaters. i havent gone in couple yrs but i love to sit at theater popcorn and drink w big screen. i love big screen i hate not seeing screen well. but renting dvd is cheaper and can watch over and over again but i miss theaters.
my suggestion is try to find out someone like billy mays type thing and talk to people who do captions and see if you cant get any ideas and talk to patent people but dont give them ur idea just yet till u know for a hard fact that ur device or idea will work. yes there lot of red tape sometimes. just research well. good luck. best wishes.

Billy May type of people only want 2 thing .....

Market it cheap -- Product cost 3 dollar and they sell for 19.95
Sell en masses -- Something that every home want to buy

I don't think his idea will fit in their range

He probably need to find someone that specizilies in movie equipments.

I been in movie business for many years and every year there is a Motion Picture Industry Convention Tradeshow and maybe it would be best starting place to go and talk to many manfactures that specializes in techinal area for movie theatre business.

This year Motion Picture Industry Convention Tradeshow will be held in Orlando Florida Here a web link - Motion Picture Industry Convention - Movie Theatre Tradeshow - Cinema Design

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deafannieboo · 08-01-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TechBill

Billy May type of people only want 2 thing .....

Market it cheap -- Product cost 3 dollar and they sell for 19.95
Sell en masses -- Something that every home want to buy

I don't think his idea will fit in their range

He probably need to find someone that specizilies in movie equipments.

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ahh ok, good point. it was just a thought. movie equipt good idea

inspirabull · 08-01-2009, 07:04 PM

I have thought about this subject a lot myself. I was thinking about a language translator on an LED screen for the radio and for all manner of music. I would like to know what the words are that everyone else hears. My thoughts on the theater: I like the theater experience too and plays as well. Why can't we have language translation equipment that picks up the sounds as they are happening and translate and send them to us in any language we prefer to a small LED screen that can either be held in the hand and also has a telescoping wand that can take it up to a heighth that we like while sitting and watching the screen at the same time?
I have talked about this subject with people who hear well(like I say until this forum I have not been around people like me)... I was surprised to find out their concern and it was quick too was the use of the equipment like an eavesdropping device. Something I had not thought of at all.

RonJaxon · 08-02-2009, 11:27 PM

We'll have things like that soon. The voice recognition technology is constantly improving. Someday it'll get to the point where it'll understand all speech, multiple language and also be able to distinct one sound from another.

So we'll basically have real life closed captioning. We'll be able to read what's being said around us or over the phone in real time without the need of any kind of relay operator or interpreter.

We're almost there already. In fact I bet if someone who creates high technology suddenly lost their hearing I bet they'd focus on this problem really quick.

webexplorer · 08-03-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonJaxon

We'll have things like that soon. The voice recognition technology is constantly improving. Someday it'll get to the point where it'll understand all speech, multiple language and also be able to distinct one sound from another.

So we'll basically have real life closed captioning. We'll be able to read what's being said around us or over the phone in real time without the need of any kind of relay operator or interpreter.

We're almost there already. In fact I bet if someone who creates high technology suddenly lost their hearing I bet they'd focus on this problem really quick.

Does it involved with the wireless for your idea?

Hambone · 10-27-2009, 09:49 AM

http://www.yourlocalcinema.com
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For once the UK seems to be ahead of the US
I know the link is no good to see films in the US
but it will let you see what we get.
I stay in Edinburgh and go the the movies with subs
nearly every week.
It is my daughter that is deaf,not me.
The guy that does the your local cinema site worked very hard
to try and get ALL cinemas to show subtitles.
The site also has a lot of subtitled trailers(links)
The cinemas show the subtitled films on a Monday or Tuesday
most times when it is quieter.
Movies i can see this week in Edinburgh with subtitles
Up(at two different cinemas)
Cloudy with a chance of meatballs
The Vampire's Assistant
Fantastic Mr Fox
Couples Retreat(at two different cinemas)
The Invention of Lying (trailer i saw this last week)

RonJaxon · 10-30-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

It seems that RonJaxon ran of his out of luck.

Actually, just got put on hold. I'm getting my CI in 2 weeks (Surgery is Nov. 11). So I've been pretty occupied about that.

I'll give you a little more detail as to what my idea is. It uses a rather simplified version of Augmented reality. If you're not familiar with it do a search for it. There are some pretty neat demo videos of the technology on line. We'll see a lot of this technology in the near future. It's already being used for many things but soon it'll be as common as camera phones. You've probably also seen it in webcam apps.

Ron Jaxon

DeafCaver · 10-30-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

I did not know some movie theaters had CC! I stop going out to see movies
as it cost so much money. It was not worth spending the money when I can't hear half the movie!

AMEN!
One can be patient and wait up to a year and buy the same movie for about $4-9.00 at Walmart and watch it over and over and over again... and you can pause in the middle to get up get something to drink/eat or use bathroom and not miss ONE minute of the show

Bebonang · 11-03-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaver

AMEN!
One can be patient and wait up to a year and buy the same movie for about $4-9.00 at Walmart and watch it over and over and over again... and you can pause in the middle to get up get something to drink/eat or use bathroom and not miss ONE minute of the show

That is the exactly the idea why it is much simpler to use DVD for close captioned or subtitles for movies right in the home instead of movie theater. I would definitely go for that.

On the Island, there is no movie houses at all except some of us want to go to the mainland to attend the movie theaters. But we do rent or buy DVD with close captioned from small stores like Mom and Pop General stores.

webexplorer · 11-03-2009, 11:34 PM

Excuse me, off the topic. Oh, yeah! That would even better so that we can avoid the Swine Flu at a movie theater!

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webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 4,504	It seems that RonJaxon ran of his out of luck.

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deafannieboo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: S Posts: 176	hmmm what about the billy mays type people who can help u with your idea or invetions. or is it to much in the creative idea stage qq i do hope the best for you. us deafies need something updated to enjoy movie in theaters. i havent gone in couple yrs but i love to sit at theater popcorn and drink w big screen. i love big screen i hate not seeing screen well. but renting dvd is cheaper and can watch over and over again but i miss theaters. my suggestion is try to find out someone like billy mays type thing and talk to people who do captions and see if you cant get any ideas and talk to patent people but dont give them ur idea just yet till u know for a hard fact that ur device or idea will work. yes there lot of red tape sometimes. just research well. good luck. best wishes.

08-01-2009, 07:04 PM	#38 (permalink)
inspirabull Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fairbanks, Cantwell, and Wasilla in Alaska and Longview, Washington. I like it that way. Posts: 189	I have thought about this subject a lot myself. I was thinking about a language translator on an LED screen for the radio and for all manner of music. I would like to know what the words are that everyone else hears. My thoughts on the theater: I like the theater experience too and plays as well. Why can't we have language translation equipment that picks up the sounds as they are happening and translate and send them to us in any language we prefer to a small LED screen that can either be held in the hand and also has a telescoping wand that can take it up to a heighth that we like while sitting and watching the screen at the same time? I have talked about this subject with people who hear well(like I say until this forum I have not been around people like me)... I was surprised to find out their concern and it was quick too was the use of the equipment like an eavesdropping device. Something I had not thought of at all.

08-02-2009, 11:27 PM	#39 (permalink)
RonJaxon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 213	We'll have things like that soon. The voice recognition technology is constantly improving. Someday it'll get to the point where it'll understand all speech, multiple language and also be able to distinct one sound from another. So we'll basically have real life closed captioning. We'll be able to read what's being said around us or over the phone in real time without the need of any kind of relay operator or interpreter. We're almost there already. In fact I bet if someone who creates high technology suddenly lost their hearing I bet they'd focus on this problem really quick.

10-27-2009, 09:49 AM	#41 (permalink)
Hambone Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	http://www.yourlocalcinema.com / For once the UK seems to be ahead of the US I know the link is no good to see films in the US but it will let you see what we get. I stay in Edinburgh and go the the movies with subs nearly every week. It is my daughter that is deaf,not me. The guy that does the your local cinema site worked very hard to try and get ALL cinemas to show subtitles. The site also has a lot of subtitled trailers(links) The cinemas show the subtitled films on a Monday or Tuesday most times when it is quieter. Movies i can see this week in Edinburgh with subtitles Up(at two different cinemas) Cloudy with a chance of meatballs The Vampire's Assistant Fantastic Mr Fox Couples Retreat(at two different cinemas) The Invention of Lying (trailer i saw this last week)

11-03-2009, 11:34 PM	#45 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 4,504	Excuse me, off the topic. Oh, yeah! That would even better so that we can avoid the Swine Flu at a movie theater!