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Join Date: Nov 2004
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sign language disctionaries feel completely useless to me. maybe its a personal thing, but no matter how many of those things i looked at, i never remembered a single sign.
i dunno if you know about ASL pro, but thats a much better site than a disctionary. |
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I never used a dictionary much, but one book I did find useful when first learning was The Sign Language Phrase Book by Lou Fant. Really useful for syntax and use of concept. The dictionaries all take too much of a sign=word rather than sign=concept approach for my tastes.
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For Hearing People Only: Answers to the Most Commonly Asked Questions About the Deaf Community, Its Culture, and the "Deaf Reality" by Matthew S. Moore, Linda Levitan, and Harlan Lane
![]() I just request a copy, the only one left, from my local library via my computer. You know that I think I might of seen this book once before (years back). I might of thumb through it, maybe. I have to see it first in order to recall. |
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Well...hmm. That'll take some time to post Anij. I personally use a combo of techniques I learned back in the 1980's with modifications (some) a few years ago. Those mnemonic techniques (or devices as they used to be called) help "attach" the unknown subject (items, concepts, etc) to known material. These are the devices (systems) I use:
The Order System stacks an item (the unknown) atop the other in a stacking order. Let's say that you have a grocery list written down. You can use this method to memorize the items on the list. Let's say the first three items on the list are eggs, sugar, and milk. You first have to use the golden rule of mnemonics- exaggeration, absurdness, and imagination- creativity in other words. This is true for all mnemonic systems that follow. Being creative is key for all these systems to work- this is vital! What you do is tell a very brief, very creative tale joining all items together. So let’s say that the eggs are rotten and smelly and that they are all over sugar canes out in the field. It is a big heap of stink. Now see a big fat cow eating the digusting heap. This is the trick…tag one item to the other with a story. The more creative, the better the recall. That’s the Order System. This method is also known as the Link System. The Numeric System does pretty much the same thing as the above system but with one twist. You apply a tactile object to numbers. In other words numbers become objects so if you think of the number you would automatically see an object (called a peg) representing that number. Clear? So for example the number one looks like (now we are using our highly creative energy) a pen. So the object pen becomes the number one and vice versa. You will be unable to think of one without thinking of the other. So why do we call those objects pegs? Because we will hang (mentally) the unknown material on these pegs (or hooks) thus filing them into our memory securely. Again to “hook up” the unknown material to our pegs, we need to construct another brief and very creative tale. So let’s say we have to memorize a long list of items (like the presidents of the United States) for example. Those individuals would have to be associated with the pegs. The first three presidents are Washington (White House building in DC), Adams (a river dam) and Jefferson (the penthouse of the sitcom- just think of a penthouse atop a building). These are the pegs for numbers 1 thru 3.
We would do something like this:
Got it?? The Mnemonic Alphabet is exactly the same as the Numeric System but instead of using numbers we use the letters of the alphabet. We first need a permanent theme. So let’s make an Animal theme for our letters. So we find animals that start with the same letter in the alphabet. We also create a story to aid in recall for this system. This is the first three in the system: A .Ape B. Bee C. Cat The previous method (Numeric System) explains this current method well enough to go any further. I hope you are understanding all this…it’s really a great tool to learn. As for the Topical System will see a different method all together. This is system is most similar to the Order Method/Link System. We do as directed in those rules here but we use locations (places) as our pegs. You have imagine (and imagination is very important with all these devices) yourself walking about through each location. Each location (each peg) is associated with the unknown material you must/want to learn. So let’s say that our first location is the [i]mailbox[/I in front of our home. The second place is the driveway so imaging walking from the mailbox to the driveway. Our third location is the front porch of the house. So again, mentally walk from the driveway to the front porch. Now let’s go back to the grocery list as our items. First place: mailbox Second place: driveway Third place: front porch So now, our memory (or mnemonic) story that joins everything together is this: We are standing before the mailbox and once we open it to get the mail, a large, white chicken comes out and lands on your head…laying an egg. You try to balance the egg on your head as you walk onto the driveway but you find that it begin to snow sugar cubes…it knocks the egg to the floor. Now as you walk into your front porch you notice something new- a pool! You take a closer look and find it full, not with water, but with milk and cows are swimming in it. The story has to be totally nuts…you have to use your imagination so be super creative and you will remember it all. That’s it! I hope I was clear. Take care. |
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Here's a real-life usage of mnemonics. In this case I employed both the Order Method/Link System and the Mnemonic Alphabet. This is a list of words as they appear in my ASL dictionary. With these techniques I can review all the tangible signs anywhere I go (exercising, having lunch or whenever)...they remain in my memory because I associated them to each other and anchored them with animal pegs. Like a mental filing system (organized for when I need to access them). Remember you have to be wildly creative with tons of imagination for this to stick to your brain. Here is my C sign list story.
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On top of that I use a flash card program that also aids me in learning. But that is just your typical, daily drills...no magic mnemonic devices to be found with flash cards.
You know that when I was back in college I used the mnemonic methods all the time, everyday practically. And because of that I nearly aced all of my mid-term and finals. It may seem like a lot of work, and it is initially, but after a while these techniques become second nature like signing (I can only guess). ![]() |
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This one looks like a good (I haven't read though). Use Your Perfect Memory by Tony Buzan is superb. It is for the novice but it was written more for the experienced. It's top-notch tough. Also Jack Lannom (back when he taught his memory secrets) was my first teacher on the subject. He no longer teaches memory devices for he is on another business endeavor. Too bad.
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OK ... that seems like a ton of work ... but also - I can see how that might allow you to memorize 1000-2000 signs or something ... but how does that help you naturally , organically learn the language and linguistic structure ?
I'm glad that this has worked for you ... it just seems so "artificial" |
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It is only artificial at first. Trust me on that one. I've been using these methods since the 80s. ![]() |
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In the last three weeks I have learned (memorized) a little over 200 signs using mnemonic devices. That helps me as far as time…less time to learn more time applying my new skills with other deaf people.
Now it only helps when learning the substance of the language. The rest (I would think) is just gaining experience thus becoming natural in your manual expressions. |
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I will turn away from this most interesting off topic memory discussion and return to our topic at hand: Terps. But if you want to post/read more memory information, I created a new thread for such discussions. Click here to access it.
![]() Now back to Terps. |
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Hooray!!!
After searching and searching for information on Deaf gathering and my local Deaf culture online, I think I have found something: Deaf Services Bureau. I just sent them an email expressing my desire, as an ASL student, to interact with the local Deaf community and if the bureau can help me out. Now the wait for the reply. Yes! |
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I also learned, viewing the AD archives, that the Miami has the largest concentration of Deaf people in the entire state. I feel more relaxed because I am certain now that I will locate a gathering near me in a short time.
![]() Oh boy I need to practice my ASL phrases...where's my Lou Fant book?? ![]() |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington DC
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington DC
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The Gally Class of 11 means that after 10 years in the rat race I am back in college! I dropped out the first time around, but in 2006 everything came together and I was able to quit my job and go back to school full-time (I interpret part-time, about 12 hrs a week) in August 2007. Although I am a sophomore, I have a lot of classes to take that are required for graduation...most of my previous college credit got transferred as electives. So I am probably going to graduate in 2011. |
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