Who like to play online poker?

kokonut

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What do you like to play? Texas Hold 'em? 7 card stud? Omaha. 7-2? H/L stud? Omaha H/L? Etc...

Just finished playing 6 1/2 hours playing limit 7 card stud H/L poker with 5672 players. Finished 3rd. I"m among the top 64 players to advance the next round this Sunday. Not often do I get to the final table. The last time I did it was when I placed first playing against 8000 players playing limit 7 card stud H/L. That was in February of this year. Oh, yeah, it's PokerStars.
 

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Yeah, but do you get money in return for your effort?

On line gambling in the U.S. is illegal but you can join other gambling sites that are NOT based in the U.S. But it's a risky venture from ID thieves and other hackers.

I like playin Texas Hold 'Em in real life and on line. Right now the only place I frequent is POGO ... the other sites are by membership and sometimes awfully confusing and very limited if you're just a "free player".
I've stopped going to Yahoo games because there's always some dickhead who boots me off and that's B.S. especially if they're losing and I'm winning.

Best hand(s) I've had were 3 Royal Flushes (not all in same game) and 1 of each suit. I'm looking for a Diamond Royal Flush to round off my "collection" LOL
 

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Not legal? That's debatable. Poker is a game of skill, not chance. Betting on horses is a game of chance than skill.
Online-Poker Bust Raises Legal Stakes - WSJ.com

How come online horse betting is legal in some states but not poker? It's not illegal to play but they contest it's the transaction of money between banks and online poker sites that makes it "illegal." Or so they think. This will be short-lived. Congress is already trying to reverse that making it legal to play poker in U.S.

Follow the latest updates on these poker laws and events:
November 2009 Newsletter | Poker Players Alliance

I had a royal flush last night in 7 card stud H/L.
 

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I prefer the smell and feeling of the cards and chips under my hands... I also like the environment where I can chat and joke with friends over a poker table, having beer and pretzels.

None of that exists with online poker. Until they invent the holodeck.
 

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Certainly, which is much more preferable to be physically there at the table. Online allows you to hone your poker skill much more effectively. Two different environment. One, you cannot tell as easily if someone is bluffing online versus at a table where you may get tell tale clues of a bluff. Either way, I've done tables and online. Depending on where you are and if there is one nearby you can play at the tables. Incidentally, it was in Reno about 9 years ago when I played 7 card stud no limit I won a pot plus progressive pot by coming up with my first ever Royal flush against an 80 year old lady's fullhouse. Meanwhile, online is one way of having a bit fun.
 

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1. The PPA (Poker Player Alliance) is not aware of any Federal law that restricts your right to play poker online. For many years, the DOJ has attempted a very broad interpretation of the Wire Act (18 USC §1084), a bill first passed in 1948 and revised in 1961. The Wire Act was passed in order to control the transmission of sports bets and sports betting information. The Wire Act does not affect or control online gaming of any type, including poker. This was affirmed in the US Fifth Circuit Court’s landmark 2002 ruling affirming that the Wire Act pertains only to sports betting. [see re In MasterCard]

The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 (UIGEA) also does not restrict your right to play poker online. The UIGEA is a very specific piece of legislation designed to restrict the transfer of money among between online gaming sites and players by putting the enforcement burden on banks. While the regulations covering the UIGEA were supposed to be in place 9 months after its passage, they have just recently been finalized, but are not yet in effect. Unless something changes (and the PPA is seeking to make that change happen), they will go into effect on December 1, 2009

We have been advised that the action taken by the Department of Justice was NOT an enforcement action based on the UIGEA. Since the regulations have not yet taken effect, the DOJ could not use them as a basis for action. It is important to note that the UIGEA regulations do not try to restrict payouts only deposits to “unlawful Internet gambling” sites. Further, we do not believe that online poker is unlawful under this Act.

2.We have been advised that the seizure attempt was, at the least, technically incorrect and at worst was a serious violation of the rights of the payment processors and you, the poker player. It is our understanding that some of the seizures were done without the benefit of proper warrants and represent an almost shocking trampling of due process. Further, we have been advised that vis a vis online poker, the SDNY does not have the legal authority to act under the two laws they cite in their action, the 1961 WIRE Act and the Illegal Gambling Business Act.


3.The funds that were seized were not the property of any online site – it was YOUR MONEY that was seized. All of the sites involved have made good on any checks that bounced or transfers that were not properly completed, but the Department of Justice seized your money here.


4.This action in no way means that online poker is finished in the United States. There have been many actions like this in the past – the NETeller seizures, cease-and-desist orders against ePassporte, the arrest of SportingBet executives and others. Online poker has weathered those actions, which appeared in several cases to be significantly worse than this one. The PPA has been in contact with several of the leading poker sites on a near daily basis since these events began to unfold, and I can tell you that they are all completely committed to staying the course and remaining in the US market.


5.Your money is safe at the major poker sites. I cannot speak for all the poker sites, but several have assured me that your money is safe and secure; however you should check with whatever site you play on. In most instances the poker sites have a procedure in which they segregate player funds, your assets and not theirs, and keep them in bank accounts that are completely separate from their operating funds – in fact, player accounts are kept in different banks.
Action Alert | Poker Players Alliance
 

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Currently, it is still legal to play (i.e. transferring of funds) until, supposedly so, Dec 1, 2009.
 

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And that payouts are not illegal, just the wiring of funds *to* an online poker site.
 

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I had a royal flush last night in 7 card stud H/L.
I forgot to mention that I like 7 card stud as well... more chances of winning/losing but it's still fun.

Laws are changing on the illegality of on line gambling. Skill or luck it's all the same and poker is a game of skilled luck. You are still relying on luck to get you that winning draw (regular poker) or the river card. Bluffing in ANY poker game is a skill.
I think that probably Deaf are better poker players because of a life-long habit of reading non-verbal clues that hearing bluffers try to hide. Me ... I emote opposite of what my hand is... it's worked. Gotten a crappy hand and I give a tiny little smile of triumph got a great hand and a quick little scowl of disgust then *ahem* straighten up and give the deadpan face ...

Then I change up... love to keep 'em guessing. :laugh2:

I would love to learn how to "cold-deck" a group of beginners... heh... like in Ocean's 11 :laugh2:
 

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It is NOT illegal to play online!! It's the supposed cash transactions (ie. wiring of funds for deposits) that the DOJ (and some states) are attempting or saying it's illegal.
 

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Laws are changing on the illegality of on line gambling. Skill or luck it's all the same and poker is a game of skilled luck. You are still relying on luck to get you that winning draw (regular poker) or the river card. Bluffing in ANY poker game is a skill.
I think that probably Deaf are better poker players because of a life-long habit of reading non-verbal clues that hearing bluffers try to hide. Me ... I emote opposite of what my hand is... it's worked. Gotten a crappy hand and I give a tiny little smile of triumph got a great hand and a quick little scowl of disgust then *ahem* straighten up and give the deadpan face ... :

I don't really buy or subscribe to the thinking that deaf people are "better" at reading visual cues in poker than hearing poker players. If that were the case we ought to see a bunch of them win (or at least place very high) at high dollars (hundred of thousands of dollars to millions in winning payouts) poker events and be on the front cover of Bluff magazine (or least have a good article written up about a deaf/hh poker player).

It's more of skill that gets you ahead than pure luck. It's not luck if you know how to manage your stack. It's not luck if you understand what you have in your hole card and it ranks against lower or potentially higher valued hole cards in other players' hands. It is not luck on how much to bet and when to bet. It's more skill than luck in playing poker. Playing the slot machine requires no skill but rely on luck to win a cash payout. In poker there is no such thing.
 

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On line gambling in the U.S. is illegal but you can join other gambling sites that are NOT based in the U.S. But it's a risky venture from ID thieves and other hackers.

You're wrong. Playing at online casinos and poker sites is NOT illegal.

What IS illegal is banks and credit companies processing online casino and poker site transactions. And, it's illegal for people in the U.S. to set up and operate these types of gaming sites.
 

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Not legal? That's debatable. Poker is a game of skill, not chance.

Yet another person pushing this myth!

Poker is only a game of skill -- if you know what you're doing.

Actually, poker is a game of skill AND LUCK.

If there was no luck involved, you'd be able to control what cards were dealt to you. But you can't. Also, you'd be able to stop that calling station from hitting that miracle 2 outer on the river. But, again, you can't.

I know poker. I love it. However, I'm also smart enough to know this game, involves both skill and luck. I wouldn't delude myself into thinking otherwise.
 

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I prefer the smell and feeling of the cards and chips under my hands... I also like the environment where I can chat and joke with friends over a poker table, having beer and pretzels.

None of that exists with online poker. Until they invent the holodeck.

Doesn't bother me a wit.

I tend to have an anti-social streak. So, not being around people I wouldn't want to know anyway, doesn't bother me at all.
 

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Yet another person pushing this myth!

Poker is only a game of skill -- if you know what you're doing.

Actually, poker is a game of skill AND LUCK.

If there was no luck involved, you'd be able to control what cards were dealt to you. But you can't. Also, you'd be able to stop that calling station from hitting that miracle 2 outer on the river. But, again, you can't.

I know poker. I love it. However, I'm also smart enough to know this game, involves both skill and luck. I wouldn't delude myself into thinking otherwise.

Not pushing any myth here. Read my post #14, 2nd paragraph.
http://www.alldeaf.com/computers-el...9-who-like-play-online-poker.html#post1463361
 
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