U.S. troops killed and wounded amid Afghan protests over Koran burning

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Jiro

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Please see post #70 :ty:

this is related to this thread..... how?

In my post - I've specifically stated that Muslims have condemned violence on people in response to Quran burning and since you mentioned his name in reply to my post....

I'm asking you if he has condemned violence in response to Quran burning.
 

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this is related to this thread..... how?

In my post - I've specifically stated that Muslims have condemned violence on people in response to Quran burning and since you mentioned his name in reply to my post....

I'm asking you if he has condemned violence in response to Quran burning.

No. No you did not. You asked me if he had condemned violence (on "people" as opposed to sheep, goats, frogs or porcupines). I asked you to refer to post #70 (as your question was in this thread and somehow related to it?)

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Steinhauer, why don't I help you understand -

This thread is about what's happening now to American soldiers in Afghanistan.

yes and I've already answered some posters' question about Muslims condemning violence on people.

Like Muzzammil Hassan?

did he condemn violence on people?

so... did Muzzahubbadubba-whatever condemn violence on people regarding Quran burning?

or am I to understand that this is your feeble attempt to taint Muslims are bunch of animals and hide the truth?
 

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Steinhauer, why don't I help you understand -









so... did Muzzahubbadubba-whatever condemn violence on people regarding Quran burning?

I still don't understand why you changed the question.

Did Hassan condemn Jihadist violence? Yes. He was even given an award for it. Gee, they are actually giving awards out for it now (since it must be rare).

But you changed the question.

Did Hassan condemn the violence related to the recent Koran burning?

I don't know the answer to that since he is sitting in jail for hacking his wife to peices.
 

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I still don't understand why you changed the question.

Did Hassan condemn Jihadist violence? Yes. He was even given an award for it. Gee, they are actually giving awards out for it now (since it must be rare).

But you changed the question.

Did Hassan condemn the violence related to the recent Koran burning?

I don't know the answer to that since he is sitting in jail for hacking his wife to peices.

um... my post was a reply to Reba's post which was specifically about Muslims condemning violence on people regarding Quran burning.

so why would you even bring in Hassan in this thread unrelated to US Troops getting killed over Quran burning? It boggles me.
 

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um... my post was a reply to Reba's post which was specifically about Muslims condemning violence on people regarding Quran burning.

so why would you even bring in Hassan in this thread unrelated to US Troops getting killed over Quran burning? It boggles me.

Yes, I know it boggles you. I have explained why a number of times already. The first time was post #72
 

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Yes, I know it boggles you. I have explained why a number of times already.

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Oh please for Pete's sake! Not everything that goes wrong is GWB's fault! If Reagan had been in office we would have kicked their butts and come home already! Obama certainly hasn't finished it either has he?!

GWB, invaded the country and left it understaffed it to invade and surge in Iraq. Is that not true? Obama, ended the war in Iraq and restaffed that country. Yes, I do think we will be out of that country if Obama is reelected. And, lets not forget it was Obama who got Bin Laden.

Regan, pulled out of Lebanon. And, other than Iran Contra(sarcasm), I don't remember Regan kicking anyone's butt. He did a lot of short military actions, but nothing on the scale of what Obama had to deal, really no comparison. Don't get me wrong, I think you are a better president if you don't need to use military action, Regan kept us out of major wars and for that he did a good job.
 

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Oh yeah, how could I ever forget? It really isn't my fault that Islam is associated with death and destruction.

Muzzammil Hassan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I do often wonder if women can file for a divorce in Muslim countries and cite "violent and inhuman treatment"?

Not my fault Christianity is also associated with violence and death. And 1 out of 3 women in America have been sexually assaulted and/or abused regardless of their religion.

And yes, divorce is permitted in Islam and can be initiated by either the wife or the husband.

You said anyone in muslim countries would be killed if they attempted to convert to christianity - mind naming which countries those would be?
 

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The only thing I got to say is, when did unbalanced people ever need a reason for anything? This whole 'fit' over burning books just sounds like an excuse.
 

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Not my fault Christianity is also associated with violence and death. And 1 out of 3 women in America have been sexually assaulted and/or abused regardless of their religion.

And yes, divorce is permitted in Islam and can be initiated by either the wife or the husband.

You said anyone in muslim countries would be killed if they attempted to convert to christianity - mind naming which countries those would be?

and news as well. I don't think I've ever heard of anybody killing one for converting out of it.
 

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Iran's Christian pastor alive, execution looming
By Lisa Daftari
Published February 27, 2012 | FoxNews.com

The Christian pastor sentenced to death in Iran last week for leaving Islam and converting to Christianity was confirmed alive as of early Sunday, sources close to his attorneys told Fox News.

Iran’s government backtracked over the weekend, stating that no execution order had been announced for Youcef Nadarkhani, and that he was being held not for apostasy, but for rape and “other crimes,” according to the Islamic Republic’s state-controlled Press TV.

Nadarkhani’s attorneys believe the government toned down its rhetoric in response to an international outcry. The execution order, however, remained in effect, they said.

Supporters fear Nadarkhani, a 34-year-old father of two who was arrested more than two years ago on charges of apostasy, fear he may be executed at any time, as death sentences in Iran can be carried out immediately or dragged out for years.

Others fear Nadarkhani will be used in broader political negotiations as Iran endures crippling sanctions and international pressure in response to its nuclear agenda and rogue discourse. The number of executions in Iran has increased significantly in the last month.

“If a human being becomes a bargaining chip for the ayatollah, that’s not a situation that will lead to anything positive,” said Jordan Sekulow, executive director of the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), a human rights advocacy group that has led international campaigns to free Nadarkhani.
“When it’s a high-profile case, they test the international community’s reaction to these stories and how they change as geopolitical priorities shift.”

Iran’s judiciary, fearing its ultimate decision will have far-reaching political implications, has been caught in a bind in determining Nadarkhani’s fate.
Should the court release the pastor, it will appear disrespectful of the tenets of Shariah, or Islamic law, which call for an apostate to be put to death. If it executes him, it will face increasing criticism from the international community that continues to petition for the Nadarkhani’s release.

Dozens of human rights groups along with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, 89 members of Congress, and leaders from the European Union, France, Great Britain, Mexico and Germany have condemned Iran for arresting Nadarkhani and have called for his quick release.

Last week, the State Department and White House put out statements condemning Tuesday’s execution verdict.

Congress has scheduled a vote as early as Wednesday on House Resolution 556, which condemns the Iranian government and calls for the pastor’s quick release.

Nadarkhani converted to Christianity at 19 and came under the Islamic regime’s radar in 2006 when he applied for his church to be registered with the state. He was arrested and soon released, according to sources.
In 2009 he went to local officials to complain about Islamic indoctrination in his school district, arguing that his children should not be forced to learn about Islam.

He was subsequently arrested and found guilty of apostasy by a lower court in Gilan, a province in Rasht, where he and his family live.
The court gave Nadarkhani a chance to recant and return to Islam, but he refused.


Death sentences for apostates in Shariah Law are prescribed both by fatwas, or legal decrees, and reinforced by Iran’s penal code. Article 225 of the Iranian penal code states, "Punishment for an Innate Apostate is death," and "Punishment for a Parental Apostate is death.”

While all religious minorities in Iran, including Bahais, Zoroastrians, Jews and Christians, have faced various forms of persecution and political and social marginalization, the government saves its harshest retribution for those who have abandoned Islam.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/27/irans-christian-pastor-alive
 

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Iran is condemned by most Muslim countries for its extreme fundamentalist government of which the Iranians did not vote into power. In no way does the Ayatollah represent the prevailing views of most Iranians.
 

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Iran is condemned by most Muslim countries for its extreme fundamentalist government of which the Iranians did not vote into power. In no way does the Ayatollah represent the prevailing views of most Iranians.

I need to assure my Muslim friends that Santorum in no way represents the majority of Americans, Christian or not.
 

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Sweden: Two Iranian Converts from Islam to Christianity Attacked and Stabbed by Muslims
01/29/2012

(Translated) – “Two Iranians who converted from Islam to Christianity were stabbed by masked men in Norway Haugesund last week.

The attackers shouted ‘kuffar’ – an Arabic term of abuse against unbelievers – during the attack.


The attack occurred on Tuesday evening when the two Christian Iranians were out for a walk in Haugesund. They were attacked suddenly by three masked and knife-armed men, who reportedly shouted ‘kuffar’ as they stabbed the two.

One of the first people who showed up at the scene after the attack was a nurse who saw the worst of the wound before an ambulance took the men to Hospital, writes Haugesund Avis.

According to police, one of the men was stabbed twice in the back and the other stabbed in the side. The attackers have not been caught....
Sweden: Two Iranian Converts from Islam to Christianity Attacked and Stabbed by Muslims « MidnightWatcher's Blogspot
 
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