Students Who Refuse to Affirm Transgender Classmates Face Punishment

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Parents across Massachusetts are upset over new rules that would not only allow transgender students to use their restrooms of their choice – but would also punish students who refuse to affirm or support their transgender classmates.

Last week the Massachusetts Department of Education issued directives for handling transgender students – including allowing them to use the bathrooms of their choice or to play on sports teams that correspond to the gender with which they identify.
The 11-page directive also urged schools to eliminate gender-based clothing and gender-based activities – like having boys and girls line up separately to leave the classroom.
Schools will now be required to accept a student’s gender identity on face value.
“A student who says she is a girl and wishes to be regarded that way throughout the school day and throughout every, or almost every, other area of her life, should be respected and treated like a girl,” the guidelines stipulate.
According to the Dept. of Education, transgender students are those whose assigned birth sex does not match their “internalized sense of their gender.”
They said gender nonconforming students “range in the ways in which they identify as male, female, some combination of both, or neither.”
“The responsibility for determining a student’s gender identity rests with the student,” the guidelines dictate. “One’s gender identity is an innate, largely inflexible characteristic of each individual’s personality that is generally established by age four…As a result, the person best situated to determine a student’s gender identity is that student himself or herself.”
The new rules would also prevent teachers and administrators from telling parents with which gender their child identifies.
“School personnel should speak with the student first before discussing a student’s gender nonconformity or transgender status with the student’s parent or guardian,” the directive states.
The guidelines were issued at the request of the state board of education to help schools follow the 2011 anti-discrimination law protecting transgender students.
“These students, because of widespread misunderstanding and lack of knowledge about their lives, are at a higher risk for peer ostracism, victimization, and bullying, the document read.
The Massachusetts Family Institute denounced the new rules calling them a violation of privacy.
“Fundamentally, boys need to be using the boys’ room and girls need to be using the girls’ rooms, and we base that on their anatomical sex, not some sort of internalized gender identity,” said Andrew Beckwith, the institute’s general counsel.
Beckwith told Fox News the new policy has a “very broad standard that is ripe for abuse.”
“The policy allows students to have one gender identity at home and another at school,” he said. “And it refuses to let teachers and administrators tell parents what gender their child is at school.”
Another part of the directive that troubles parents deals with students who might feel comfortable having someone of the opposite sex in their locker room or bathroom.
The state takes those students to task – noting their discomfort “is not a reason to deny access to the transgender student.”
And any student who refuses to refer to a transgendered student by the name or sex they identify with could face punishment.
For example – a fifth grade girl might feel uncomfortable using the restroom if there is an eighth grade transgendered boy in the next stall.
Under the state guidelines, the girl would have no recourse, Beckwith said.
“And if the girl continued to complain she could be subjected to discipline for not affirming that student’s gender identity choice,” he told Fox News.
“It should not be tolerated and can be grounds for student discipline,” the directive states.
Gunner Scott, of the Massachusetts Transgender Political Coalition, praised the directive – and said punishing students who refuse to acknowledge a student’s gender identity is appropriate because it amounts to bullying.
“The reality is that it’s about creating an inclusive environment for all students to learn,” Scott said.
But many parents disagreed and said the directive actually gives transgendered students more rights and privileges than other students.
“It doesn’t treat all students the same,” said Bill Gillmeister, of Brookfield, Mass. “It has a greater preference to gender-identifying children. That concerns me a great deal.”
Gillmeister told Fox News he has a son and daughter in high school. He also serves as a school committeeman.
He wondered about safety and fairness – especially when it comes to athletics. Under the new rules transgendered students will be allowed to play on either boys or girls teams.
“What about the girl who loses a spot on that basketball team because a boy is able to play as a girl,” Gillmeister wondered.
He worried about boys going into the girls locker rooms and vice versa.
“As a father of a daughter who might be playing sports, that concerns me greatly,” he said. “My daughter would likely not play a sport that she would otherwise play if she knew there was a potential for a boy to walk into the girl’s locker room.”
Gillmeister predicted no matter what happens – there will be lawsuits.
“It will either be the girl who didn’t get a seat on the basketball team because some boy got it or some boy who wanted to use the girls’ room but was denied access,” he said.
Beckwith and others say the education department is using a loophole in the anti-discrimination law to create a “stealth bathroom bill.”
“It’s affecting students as young as kindergarten,” he said.
The directive also calls on schools to implement gender neutral clothing rules.
“For example, some schools require students to wear gender-based garb for graduation or have gender-based dress codes for prom, special events and daily attire,” the directive states. “Schools should eliminate gendered policies and practices such as these.”
They pointed out on school that changed its dress code for the National Honor Society. The new policy does not require girls to wear dresses.
They also instructed schools to stop lining up students based on gender. Instead, they recommended lining up students using their birthdays or alphabetically.
Beckwith said it seems like Massachusetts is trying to create gender-neutral schools.
“They’re encouraging schools to eliminate all gender based distinctions,” he said.
With reporting from Associated Press
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Students Who Refuse to Affirm Transgender Classmates Face Punishment | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes
 
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This is sick...the line has to be drawn somewhere.....

Laura
 
The people should learn about how to respect to transgender people, also they are not deserved to be discriminated, bullied and mistreated.
 
So much for children having a childhood. I wonder when they'll allow children just change and strip naked in front of the opposite sex in the locker rooms since they're going to do away with separate rest rooms....totally disgusted.....time to home school....

Laura
 
So much for children having a childhood. I wonder when they'll allow children just change and strip naked in front of the opposite sex in the locker rooms since they're going to do away with separate rest rooms....totally disgusted.....time to home school....

Laura

PAST time for home school. I believe we are at a point now where putting a child in public school is bad parenting and flat out irresponsible. It is ridiculous that little kids are being subjected to this kind of stuff.
 
It is sad to see people who are insensitive to transgender students.

Transgender - the person born as male with female's brain, and the person born as female with male's brain.

I support Massachusetts's plan to rid of bullying and harassment against on transgender students based on gender.

Mass. Department of Education Issues Directive On Trans Students | Advocate.com

*laughing at right wing lies and their nonsense comments*
 
PAST time for home school. I believe we are at a point now where putting a child in public school is bad parenting and flat out irresponsible. It is ridiculous that little kids are being subjected to this kind of stuff.

I used to work with a young man that home schooled all his five children. I see more parents in my state that will move in that direction. It's the only sane way to raise children and allow them to have the childhood our crazy state, and society, denies them.
 
OP's article is heavily political driven and any criticism about transgender students are politically motivated, so I'm free to say that I don't follow their biased comments.

Make school safe and free from bullying is one of most important for the children.
 
I used to work with a young man that home schooled all his five children. I see more parents in my state that will move in that direction. It's the only sane way to raise children and allow them to have the childhood our crazy state, and society, denies them.

It is tough for some parents because they pay their school taxes and feel like they are just throwing that money away if they homeschool or send a kid to private school. That is why we need vouchers. Honestly, they are throwing money away whether they send kids or not. IMO it is better to bite the bullet and home school the kids. Cut your losses that way.
 
OP's article is heavily political driven and any criticism about transgender students are politically motivated.

No, it is not politically motivated and I will ask you politely again to refrain from politics in this thread. :ty:
 
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This is totally wrong. This is what I meant in my past post when I said. Ones right is taken away and imposed on when it is given to another. Who has more rights? Obviously in this situation the transgenders do. I understand bullying. But to allow a naturally born boy share girls locker room and bathrooms and the natural born girl can get in trouble if she complains!! What about her rights??
 
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This is totally wrong. This is what I meant in my past post when I said. Ones right is taken away and imposed on when it is given to another. Who has more rights? Obviously in this situation the transgenders do. I understand bullying. But to allow a naturally born boy share girls locker room and bathrooms and the natural born girl can get in trouble if she complains!! What about her rights??

Exactly! It is a shame children are being subjected to this, especially on the taxpayer dime. And how will they weed out the fakes and attention seekers? What happens when a kid changes their mind a few times?

It's just crazy. I am against bullying too, and the way I see it, this is bullying.
 
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Tx, this opens up a whole another can of worms. I feel this situation will result in more exploitation and bullying.
 
I have doubt about punishment for not accept the gender identify.
The guidance said some students may feel uncomfortable sharing those facilities with a transgender student but this "discomfort is not a reason to deny access to the transgender student." It urges administrators to resolve issues on a case-by-case basis, and recommends sufficient sex-neutral restrooms and changing areas.

The guidance also addresses what to do if other students consistently and intentionally refuse to refer to a transgendered student by the name or sex they identify as: "It should not be tolerated and can be grounds for student discipline."

PrideSource - Mass. Ed Dept Issues Rules On Transgender Pupils

The state department of education makes policy that suggest to discipline the students for not accept other students based on gender identify - I doubt that schools will punish the students for not affirm or support, despite about policy that suggested by department of education. The reality will be different and the school will likely to talk to students who are insensitive, rather than issue the in school suspension or serious punishment.

The transgender students are make up about very small population, about small as gay/lesbian population. The children, especially at elementary school, are too young to understand about gender identify and they don't know about identify, except for basic like male or female from born, so they will realize about more detail at later age, especially middle school or high school.

I don't believe that policy change will make bullying worse - "make worse" is overreaction suggest and the new policy is intended to make school safe, including lessen the bullying.
 
I have doubt about punishment for not accept the gender identify.


PrideSource - Mass. Ed Dept Issues Rules On Transgender Pupils

The state department of education makes policy that suggest to discipline the students for not accept other students based on gender identify - I doubt that schools will punish the students for not affirm or support, despite about policy that suggested by department of education. The reality will be different and the school will likely to talk to students who are insensitive, rather than issue the in school suspension or serious punishment.

The transgender students are make up about very small population, about small as gay/lesbian population. The children, especially at elementary school, are too young to understand about gender identify and they don't know about identify, except for basic like male or female from born, so they will realize about more detail at later age, especially middle school or high school.

I don't believe that policy change will make bullying worse - "make worse" is overreaction suggest and the new policy is intended to make school safe, including lessen the bullying.

I disagree. I think schools will fear lawsuits and comply. And opportunists will see this as an opportunity for attention and financial gain. That is what opportunists do.....they exploit things. Hence, more bullying.

I guess we will have to wait and see. :dunno:
 
I'm not suggesting about schools should ignore the state department of education and the schools will have comply with state DoE's order, however the punishment in reality will be different from any of you thinking or concerning about original policies. The schools will make smart move to prevent the bullying as possible and punish the students for not being comfortable are over exaggerated. The school will take measure to resolve the discomfort cases and talk to students about respect as necessary.

I'm currently take legal studies and my professor has law degree, so he said it is very hard for opportunists to win the lawsuit, also based on similar logic, the anti-bullying policy that used to protect the gay students and some students are not comfortable with gay students will be punished, but not happened and the school already took care of them in different way, so very unlikely for opportunists to seeking the financial gains and they have to find to prove in very strict way, or they will not win the case.
 
I'm not suggesting about schools should ignore the state department of education and the schools will have comply with state DoE's order, however the punishment in reality will be different from any of you thinking or concerning about original policies. The schools will make smart move to prevent the bullying as possible and punish the students for not being comfortable are over exaggerated. The school will take measure to resolve the discomfort cases and talk to students about respect as necessary.

I'm currently take legal studies and my professor has law degree, so he said it is very hard for opportunists to win the lawsuit, also based on similar logic, the anti-bullying policy that used to protect the gay students and some students are not comfortable with gay students will be punished, but not happened and the school already took care of them in different way, so very unlikely for opportunists to seeking the financial gains and they have to find to prove in very strict way, or they will not win the case.

Like I said. We will see.

Did your teacher really say that? :shock:
 
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