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Whoever said that the deaf should not necessarily hear? :)

The word itself! One is deaf when one cannot hear anything AT ALL.
If you have a hearing loss there's plenty of words you can identify with, like HOH, hearing impaired, etc.
Music and prosthesis DO NOT exist when you are "really deaf".
 

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The word itself! One is deaf when one cannot hear anything AT ALL.
If you have a hearing loss there's plenty of words you can identify with, like HOH, hearing impaired, etc.
Music and prosthesis DO NOT exist when you are "really deaf".

no, looks fine. I think you're making a attimino confusion ... :)

HOH= "hard of hearing", which in Italian means "sordastro"

the problem is the appearance: in my case, many believe that I am a HOH, while in fact I am really deaf. everything here.
 
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no, looks fine. I think you're making a attimino confusion ... :)

HOH= "hard of hearing", which in Italian means "sordastro"

the problem is the appearance: in my case, many believe that I am a HOH, while in fact I am really deaf. everything here.

Just a note: if you were "really deaf", your prosthesis wouldn't work. Tutto qui.
 

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but now that you've been drinking? :D

so according to your logic, those who have a cochlear implant can not hear? :D

as a joke is funny :laugh2: :laugh2:
 

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call it politics ... for me it is a mockery towards who entered legally!

and it is not enjoyable ...

So you don't mind Nazi hate propaganda but Von Braun getting into America really ticks you off? I think you need to reconsider your positions.
 
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but now that you've been drinking? :D

so according to your logic, those who have a cochlear implant can not hear? :D

as a joke is funny :laugh2: :laugh2:

Mi hai appena dato ragione. Cochlear implant is NOT a prosthesis. It is a device that requires an invasive surgery, and guess what? who gets it? Those who cannot benefit from HAs.
 

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So you don't mind Nazi hate propaganda but Von Braun getting into America really ticks you off? I think you need to reconsider your positions.


I think you read it wrong this topic. if read again well, you will notice that I do not support the Nazi propaganda, but only the artistic aspect of music. by the way, if we want to make clear: should know that the German troops engaged in Africa were the only ones who were never accused of crimes against humanity! should know this before making unfair accusations :)
 

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Mi hai appena dato ragione. Cochlear implant is NOT a prosthesis. It is a device that requires an invasive surgery, and guess what? who gets it? Those who cannot benefit from HAs.

sorry if I speak in Italian...

ma stai facendo un errore di prospettiva! chi ha detto che l'impianto cocleare sia una esclusività per una certa categoria? è fattibile anche per coloro che, come me, posseggono un residuo uditivo. anzi, ho conosciuto sordi che prima di fare l'impianto cocleare, avevano protesi e ci sentivano. certo, non ci sentivano bene, come io ci sento, ma comunque sentivano con le protesi, proprio perchè possedevano un residuo uditivo. dopo l'operazione dell'impianto cocleare hanno perso anche quello, e definitivamente! una testimonianza tangibile di quanto io sto dicendo, lo puoi leggere nella storia di sonocativo, oppure in ncff07

se fosse stato come tu dici, ossia, che l'impianto cocleare lo possono ricevere solo quelli completamente privi di udito, allora anche "sonocativo" non avrebbe mai potuto sentire con le protesi. non ti pare?
solo una curiosità: puoi rivelarmi il tuo range di età? (e non fare il classico da 0 a 99 :D)
 

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I think you read it wrong this topic. if read again well, you will notice that I do not support the Nazi propaganda, but only the artistic aspect of music. by the way, if we want to make clear: should know that the German troops engaged in Africa were the only ones who were never accused of crimes against humanity! should know this before making unfair accusations :)

I think you should re read carfully what i said. I made no claims that you where a supporter. It is clear from this thread and the others you have recently posted in that you think it's funny how ever and are just trying to stir up trouble. I suppose i have fallen into your trap by responding. I will try to avoid your bait from now on.
 
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ho conosciuto sordi che prima di fare l'impianto cocleare, avevano protesi e ci sentivano. certo, non ci sentivano bene, come io ci sento, ma comunque sentivano con le protesi, proprio perchè possedevano un residuo uditivo.

"I met deaf people that, before CI, used HAs, and they could hear. Of course they couldn't hear well AS I CAN, but they could hear with their HAs, because they had a residual hearing."

It's not worth discussing. Just buy a dictionary.
 

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I think you should re read carfully what i said. I made no claims that you where a supporter. It is clear from this thread and the others you have recently posted in that you think it's funny how ever and are just trying to stir up trouble. I suppose i have fallen into your trap by responding. I will try to avoid your bait from now on.

is not me who created the trap, as she believes. But it is you yourself who has fallen into a very simple case of distortion of information. Was enough to make automatic association of ideas without distinction and without knowledge :)

if she does not have this knowledge, I am sorry for her, but do not consider myself guilty :)
 

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"I met deaf people that, before CI, used HAs, and they could hear. Of course they couldn't hear well AS I CAN, but they could hear with their HAs, because they had a residual hearing."

It's not worth discussing. Just buy a dictionary.

you're right. it is useless to argue with fools who think they have reason without even consulting the science ... :)
 

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I'm curious why this thread is in the Jokes & Funny Stories section?
 

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I think can understand what mm trying to say even if it bit clumsy,would I be right saying deaf can hear good aswel as bad with residual and don't need hearing to understand difference the song used as metaphor
 

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we used some of the Nazi for our NASA and USAF rocket missles programs

Allegations of Nazi War Criminals Residing in the United States
http://www.gao.gov/products/128149
128149: Oct 17, 1985

Nazis and Axis Collaborators Were Used To Further U.S. Anti-Communist Objectives in Europe--Some Immigrated to the United States
http://www.gao.gov/products/GGD-85-66
GGD-85-66: Published: Jun 28, 1985. Publicly Released: Jun 28, 1985.

Appropriated Funds for Prosecution of Nazi War Criminals
http://www.gao.gov/products/108908
108908: Mar 28, 1979

Investigation of Alleged Nazi War Criminals Residing in the United States by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Department of Justice
http://www.gao.gov/products/095396
095396: Jul 19, 1978

Widespread Conspiracy To Obstruct Probes of Alleged Nazi War Criminals Not Supported by Available Evidence: Controversy May Continue
http://www.gao.gov/products/GGD-78-73
GGD-78-73: Published: May 15, 1978. Publicly Released: May 15, 1978.

Investigation of Alleged Nazi War Criminals Residing in the United States by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Department of Justice
http://www.gao.gov/products/103166
103166: Aug 3, 1977
 

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To the victor go the spoils. We beat the Nazis, so we extracted their technology from them. We also defeated the Italians too. Apparently, one of them is a sore loser.
 

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we used some of the Nazi for our NASA and USAF rocket missles programs

Allegations of Nazi War Criminals Residing in the United States
http://www.gao.gov/products/128149
128149: Oct 17, 1985

Nazis and Axis Collaborators Were Used To Further U.S. Anti-Communist Objectives in Europe--Some Immigrated to the United States
http://www.gao.gov/products/GGD-85-66
GGD-85-66: Published: Jun 28, 1985. Publicly Released: Jun 28, 1985.

Appropriated Funds for Prosecution of Nazi War Criminals
http://www.gao.gov/products/108908
108908: Mar 28, 1979

Investigation of Alleged Nazi War Criminals Residing in the United States by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Department of Justice
http://www.gao.gov/products/095396
095396: Jul 19, 1978

Widespread Conspiracy To Obstruct Probes of Alleged Nazi War Criminals Not Supported by Available Evidence: Controversy May Continue
http://www.gao.gov/products/GGD-78-73
GGD-78-73: Published: May 15, 1978. Publicly Released: May 15, 1978.

Investigation of Alleged Nazi War Criminals Residing in the United States by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, Department of Justice
http://www.gao.gov/products/103166
103166: Aug 3, 1977

thank you, but I think this render more sense of the ridiculous: letter C, on the right of the image (this was one of the documents that were delivered to all the tourists coming into US territory)
 

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"in persecutions associated with ...."


It was never proven that Von Braun persecuted anyone. He was a rocket scientist. He was not Mengele.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Investigations_(United_States_Department_of_Justice)

The case of Braunsteiner-Ryan and the creation of the OSI

In 1964 it was discovered that Hermine Braunsteiner-Ryan, former SS guard in the concentration camps Ravensbrück and Majdanek, lived in the United States. The case caused quite a stir, and in consequence a special working group was set up at the immigration authority, which should identify other war criminals from the Nazi-era, who lived in the United States. This working group was under great public pressure, and was not sufficiently prepared for the task handling a large number of complex investigations. In the years 1977 to 1979 the department initiated five cases, all except one were lost. In the one case won it turned out later that an alleged Gestapo officer was in fact a former forced laborer.

As a consequence, the New York Congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman called for the creation of a special unit to prosecute war criminals residing in the United States. In 1979 the Office of Special Investigations was established within the US Department of Justice. Its task consisted of processing the accumulated cases and the resumption of the search for war criminals in the United States. The OSI was equipped with greater powers than any other department. Its employees were able to do all necessary steps themselves, from a first investigation to litigation, negotiating with foreign governments and calling for support of other U.S. authorities.
 

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"in persecutions associated with ...."


It was never proven that Von Braun persecuted anyone. He was a rocket scientist. He was not Mengele.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Investigations_(United_States_Department_of_Justice)

I understand. However, remember that the project of the missiles V1-V2 was von braun. and that to build such missiles were used Jews .... as you see, the persecution there.

but the problem is another: it is that the US government has teased million tourists in complete the form I-94 when the government itself has allowed us to bring in not only von braun, but also other less known, I note, just for completeness: Otto Von Bolschwing and Arthur Rudolph.
if you do a google search, you can find something....
 
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