NY passes 1st US gun control bill since massacre

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ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York's Assembly on Tuesday easily passed the toughest gun control law in the nation and the first since the Newtown, Conn., school shooting, calling for a tougher assault weapons ban and provisions to try to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill who make threats.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo pushed hard for the bill, which passed the Senate on Monday night. He is expected to quickly sign the measure into law.

"This is a scourge on society," Cuomo said Monday night, six days after making gun control a centerpiece of his State of the State address. The bipartisan effort was fueled by the Newtown tragedy that took the lives of 20 first graders and six educators. "At what point do you say, 'No more innocent loss of life'?"

The measure, which passed the Assembly 104-43, also calls for restrictions on ammunition and the sale of guns.

"This is not about taking anyone's rights away," said Sen. Jeffrey Klein, a Bronx Democrat, when the bill passed the Senate late Monday night. "It's about a safe society ... today we are setting the mark for the rest of the county to do what's right."

Under current state law, assault weapons are defined by having two "military rifle" features such as folding stock, muzzle flash suppressor or bayonet mount. The proposal reduces that to one feature and includes the popular pistol grip.

Private sales of assault weapons to someone other than an immediate family will be subject to a background check through a dealer. New Yorkers also would be barred from buying assault weapons over the Internet, and failing to safely store a weapon could lead to a misdemeanor charge.

Ammunition magazines will be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines will have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine will face a misdemeanor charge.

Another provision places requirements on therapists, psychologists, registered nurses and licensed social workers who believe a mental health patient made a credible threat to use a gun illegally. They would be required to report such a threat to a mental health director, who would have to notify the state. Any registered handguns — or registered assault weapons purchased before the ban — could be taken from the patient.

The legislation also increases sentences for gun crimes including the shooting of a first responder that Cuomo called the "Webster provision." Last month in the western New York town of Webster, two firefighters were killed after responding to a fire set by the shooter, who eventually killed himself.

The measure passed the Senate 43-18 on the strength of support from Democrats, many of whom previously sponsored bills that were once blocked by Republicans.

The governor confirmed the proposal, previously worked out in closed session, also mandate a police registry of assault weapons, grandfathering in the estimated 1 million assault weapons already in private hands.

It was agreed upon exactly a month since the Sandy Hook Elementary School tragedy.

"It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment," said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island.

Cuomo said he wanted quick action to avoid a run on assault weapons and ammunition.

Assemblyman Steve Katz said legislators were being "bullied." He said the bill is "solely for the governor's egotistical, misguided notion."

Republicans argued the bill wouldn't stop mass shootings or other gun crimes but instead turns law-abiding into potential criminals.

Republican Assemblyman James Tedisco said the bill was dangerous because it would give people a "false sense of well-being."

"You are using innocent children killed by a mad man for own political agenda," he said. "You are actually making people less safe."

NY passes 1st US gun control bill since massacre - Yahoo! News
 
I'm very curious about legal action, between New York and pro-gun organization.
 
There is provision that I agree - strengthen the background check and tough on mentally ill people.

Rest of other provision - I love to watch the drama between New York and pro-gun organizations. :lol:
 
There is provision that I agree - strengthen the background check and tough on mentally ill people.

Rest of other provision - I love to watch the drama between New York and pro-gun organizations. :lol:
Well, of course NRA and gun businesses don't like it because they don't want to lose money from it.
 
I don't care because I don't own a gun. As long as the law is reasonable, then it's fine.

I think your post interpreted the gun control law in California is working good. :lol:
 
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How many people have been Dxed with ddepression? It is a form of mental illness. Just saying. What about people with Anger management issues? How does the government define mental illnesses? Where will they draw the line of who can and can not buy guns? :hmm:
 
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How many people have been Dxed with ddepression? It is a form of mental illness. Just saying. What about people with Anger management issues? How does the government define mental illnesses? Where will they draw the line of who can and can not buy guns? :hmm:

I think you know HIPAA because your interest career is pharmacist.

There is no way for government to know about people with psychiatric disorders without getting court order to reveal the medical history, so it will be usually if you are involuntary admit to hospital by court order, or involuntary in outpatient cares.
 
There is a problem - black markets. ATF and/or cops in the state will have to work harder to stop them.

did you know most of guns especially military weapons in black market (south-eastern area like CA) were sold/supplied by.... our own government? and lied about it by blaming us?

Operation Fast and Furious. BUSTED!
 
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How many people have been Dxed with ddepression? It is a form of mental illness. Just saying. What about people with Anger management issues? How does the government define mental illnesses? Where will they draw the line of who can and can not buy guns? :hmm:

Another provision places requirements on therapists, psychologists, registered nurses and licensed social workers who believe a mental health patient made a credible threat to use a gun illegally. They would be required to report such a threat to a mental health director, who would have to notify the state. Any registered handguns — or registered assault weapons purchased before the ban — could be taken from the patient.

Doesn't it answer your questions?
 
did you know most of guns especially military weapons in black market (south-eastern area like ca) were sold/supplied by.... Our own government? And lied about it by blaming us?

Operation fast and furious. Busted!

Btw - not sure if you saw this from other thread.

Bullshit! Keep it up! :lol:
 
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How many people have been Dxed with ddepression? It is a form of mental illness. Just saying. What about people with Anger management issues? How does the government define mental illnesses? Where will they draw the line of who can and can not buy guns? :hmm:

Another provision places requirements on therapists, psychologists, registered nurses and licensed social workers who believe a mental health patient made a credible threat to use a gun illegally. They would be required to report such a threat to a mental health director, who would have to notify the state. Any registered handguns — or registered assault weapons purchased before the ban — could be taken from the patient.

Doesn't it answer your questions?

Nope, one can goto court and have a shrink defend him and also have one against him. Again, I ask. Each PhD will have their own opinion.
 
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