hello Foxrac ... I just proved that the victims father blamed guns and supported gun control, there is an entire interview with him where he states just that ... it is more than blaming the NRA and Politicians.
The shooters father also blames guns and supports gun control laws. That was a statement made through his attorney.
Also, no, I am not playing games. You would be mistaken if you thought that was what I was doing. If the victim's father wants to be left alone, he should not be making statements to the public. I am also not "bothering" the victims father, I am stating my opinion here, in this thread. I am not yelling at the victims father, nor am I hindering him from grieving the loss of his child. I also do not plan to protest at the funeral, and hope no one else does for that matter. But when he states his opinion publicly, and it is a political statement - I will state my opinion as well. Its America, we can do that here.
I also do understand why the NRA is opposed to universal background checks. California has a State and Local background check for each firearm purchase .. nothing revealed anything about Elliot Rodgers mental illness .. when it should have. The NRA has been stating, for years, that background checks do nothing to prevent gun violence, and they did nothing to prevent this tragedy. They also do nothing to prevent illegal firearms purchases. Even the wait times do nothing to prevent gun violence, as Elliot was able to purchase 3.
His Aunt has even come out and stated he has been disturbed ever since he was a little boy.
he was cray cray ... it was not the NRA's fault that California's background check for firearm purchases, their 10 day wait period, and their limited magazine capacity did nothing to prevent him from stabbing 3 people and running over others. It was not any politicians fault - other than the ones supporting gun free zones and passing that legislation - which enables lunatics to go on unhindered shooting sprees there.
Thanks to CrazyPaul for helped me to locate the closed captioning and I finished watch this video.
It doesn't change my result - victim's father and shooter's family's statements are not same nor similar, victim's father talks about politicians and NRA, also semiautomatic pistols that mention in this video, but shooter's family against on guns and didn't mention about NRA or politicians.
NRA didn't support or help the congress to fix the broken mental health system because they don't want gun owners to be compromised, such as loss of access to guns after they get diagnose with mental illness. All states, including California use NICS to check the background but some pro-gun articles claimed that change to NICS can be permanent if local LEO (city police, sheriff), state police, FBI or ATF make report to this system to make ineligible to buy guns. The sheriff said shooter bought guns legally and his background was clean because nobody report his mental status to NICS. I think NICS need to be tweak and require medical communities to report about mental illness, along with LEO need improve the awareness and communication. I'm not surprised that California has worst mental health system and many people with mental illness ended up in the jail or prison.
California banned assault weapon in 1989 but there is CA compliant AR-15 as well. The gun control laws in 1960s and 1970s were originally deal with gangs problem that where young people could buy guns legally, but now, they buy guns from black market or steal from anywhere. Due to change in socioeconomic, the crime in California went down from late 1980s and early 1990s due to anti-gangs program and discourage young people from joining the gangs, but it didn't completely go away. Georgia has gangs problem as well and GA legislature passed anti-gangs measures to deal with gangs problem. Even with CCW or OC, you can be surprisingly gunned down by gangs during drive-by shooting on street. I agree about CCW and CC are very effective for robbery, assault and burglary, but outcome may different, depending on your experience, state of mind, size of groups and other factors, but for gangs, it may not work unless you are in armed groups. There is one problem - California has lower gun ownership and OC/CCW have no benefits to help the victims because not many people carry guns to save the victim's life, but it work very well for yourself because you carry gun with you.
You need to understand that victim's father lost his child and it is big deal to their family. It is extremely devastated and lost child cannot recover. It is not good idea to criticize him for his statements, also he lives in California that where guns are not part of their culture, except for inland rural and hunting. It is not my type to criticize the victims and I respect them, even if they are against on guns. I prefer to have a fair compensation for anti-gun supporters and pro-gun supporters to fix the system without lose the rights to arm or increase of shooting related events, especially that what background check means. I'm not censoring your speech and I don't care if you criticize Michael Bloomberg, Feinstein, Pelosi or Obama because they are not victim.
I'm sorry for really long post and I'm not gun nut that you seen in Chipotle incident. I'm fine with OC/CCW handgun for mature people with no mental illness. Seriously, I don't believe that immature people should have access to guns. I'm planning to buy handgun and possibly shotgun for my self-defense at home when I'm ready go on my own, even it is legal in CA.
