Lip-Readers: Which words look identical/very similar?

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Hi there, everyone!
I'm doing a project for my college class and want to demonstrate why context matters in lip-reading. My idea was to hand out sheets to people and have them guess which words on their sheets I was saying. Then, I would have them get together with each other to double check, and have them realize that their words and worksheets are different.

The trouble? Coming up with the words that look identical. Google hasn't yielded many results, and experimenting is taking me quite awhile. :roll:

Can you think of any words that closely resemble each other?

So far, I *think* I've got a few.. such as chair/share/jar... maybe went/rant/won't... :hmm: bah. I am so not creative!

Thank you for your thoughts! Any advice is appreciated. =)
 
I watched an amusing film produced by a couple of deaf guys that had a scene with the Deaf person thinking everyone was telling him "You have salad", only to realize later that what they were saying was "You have talent". The mouth movements are almost identical.
 
AJWSmith said:
I watched an amusing film produced by a couple of deaf guys that had a scene with the Deaf person thinking everyone was telling him "You have salad", only to realize later that what they were saying was "You have talent". The mouth movements are almost identical.
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do you have the link?
 
AJWSmith said:
I watched an amusing film produced by a couple of deaf guys that had a scene with the Deaf person thinking everyone was telling him "You have salad", only to realize later that what they were saying was "You have talent". The mouth movements are almost identical.
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Heh, anyone played the elephant shoes - olive juice joke on you yet?
 
Easy ones that I have a hard time with - mop, bop and pop. cab, lab. ten, den. bellow, mellow. bike, pike, mike.
 
Make sure they know that less than 30% of the English phonemes are visible on the lips. Whenever people ask me to "just lipread" what they are saying, I want to whack them in the head with a book!
 
AJWSmith said:
I watched an amusing film produced by a couple of deaf guys that had a scene with the Deaf person thinking everyone was telling him "You have salad", only to realize later that what they were saying was "You have talent". The mouth movements are almost identical.
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ash345 said:
do you have the link?
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I've put a link elsewhere in AD. It's a scene in a short film called "Hands Solo", about a Deaf man using his signing skills in the porn business. It's a comedy - or a 'mockumentary' as the makers prefer to call it. It isn't an explicit film - it's rated '15' - more due to the subject matter than what you see on the screen.

http://www.alldeaf.com/penisarium/92155-hands-solo-deaf-man-uses-his-salad-porn.html#post1857776

It's a UK film, so the actors use BSL - but the whole film is captioned.
 
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deafbajagal said:
make sure they know that less than 30% of the english phonemes are visible on the lips. Whenever people ask me to "just lipread" what they are saying, i want to whack them in the head with a book!
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amen! :p
 
As a long time lip reader, I can easily tell difference between letters and words said in this thread.

Practice makes perfect.

However, if I am not familiar with a word, I sometimes would think the person is saying something else. When I am unsure, I ask them to spell it out or write it down depending on of they know how to sign ABCs. Some letters like P and B are not easily distinguished - reason is simple. B uses voice while P is just air. :O
 
deafbajagal said:
Make sure they know that less than 30% of the English phonemes are visible on the lips. Whenever people ask me to "just lipread" what they are saying, I want to whack them in the head with a book!
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This is correct. With more skilled "lip readers" we use throats, tongues, and cheeks to aid our "lip" reading. ;)
 
Google said:
As a long time lip reader, I can easily tell difference between letters and words said in this thread.

Practice makes perfect.

However, if I am not familiar with a word, I sometimes would think the person is saying something else. When I am unsure, I ask them to spell it out or write it down depending on of they know how to sign ABCs. Some letters like P and B are not easily distinguished - reason is simple. B uses voice while P is just air. :O
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When you can't hear the difference between air and voice, you can't tell. Try plugging your ears so that you have absolutely no hearing and read those words. That's my life daily.
 
Embarassing but one time at school the teacher had us play a game--One person signs something, the other person voices. (I am Deaf). One girl picked me, and I asked the teacher to make her pick someone else because I couldnt read her lips well, teacher said no.

Anyways, She was trying to be funny and said "hi, my name is shoshana, im a dinosaur".

I FLIPPED!!

I thought she said "hi, my name is shosana, Im a dirty whore"

so...dinosaur and "dirty whore" look very similar!

Embarrassing!
 
KristinaB said:
When you can't hear the difference between air and voice, you can't tell. Try plugging your ears so that you have absolutely no hearing and read those words. That's my life daily.
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This is absurd. I'm profoundly deaf. I do not hear anything. I only know how to say letters which is the reason I know the difference between P and B verbally. Just not visually.

My brother said putty, I wanted to believe he said butter but his sentence did not make sense. I had him spell it out. =]
 
Numbers are hard esp with 13-30, 14-40, 15-50, 16-60, 17-70, 18-80, 19-90.

I can't even say them either. I have to say "One Three" for 13, "Three Zero" for 30, same with the rest.
 
Wow, what great examples! Thank you. Guess my hearing friends are going to be in for a shock when they realize that lip reading is surprisingly difficult. :giggle:

What about corner, coroner, and quarter? I thought those might look similar..
 
here's my list:

bleach-bitch ( a work I thought someone had called me a bitch but they were asking where the bleach was)
Tape-Staple
Chair-Share-Stare
Cherry-Jerry
Jar-Jaw
Fall-Fart....( I actually thought the person said they had farted when they actually said they fell, very embarrassing moment).
Two-too-tool
Bird-Burn

Names are hard for me if they are similar to another such as
Jerry-Cherie
Allen-Alieen
Pam often confused with Ma'am.

but in general I do get the gist of what is being said...
depending on the context.

Jokes- I do not get. :)
 
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