Can anybody still help me with this one? I got the others figured out (I was able to ask him, since the deadline is apparently midnight tonight (that's two hours)), but I didn't have time to ask him this one, too, and my other questions about the story were more pressing.EDIT: And also "Sometimes we wear our special Korean outfits." I can think of a couple ways to sign it, but none feels right. :P
I've seen that sign, yes - the TOUCH-HEART is used with the bent middle finger while all the other fingers were spread wide open. The physical heart and the sign BREAK is never seen by myself.To convey someone is heartbroken, you can use various combinations of signs and facial expressions to show extreme sorrow, agony, grief or despair. One that I use is the twisting motion of GRIEF in front of the heart. Example:
TOUCH-HEART (with a stabbing motion) GRIEF
Umm... I beg to differ with you. You can say would/should/could. Would is usually glossed as the sign WILL. There's an English sign that's a W-->D for would (essentially an intialized Will sign). Not used very often in these parts, but I do see it. Should is the same sign as Need, just with more emphasis. Really all depends on the NMS's and Facial Expression. Need around here is an "x" that is tapped whereas Must/should/have-to is an "x" that only taps one time, kinda dramatically. Could is the sign "can" done twice, at least around here.I have been on a quest to find some semblance of the conditional mood in ASL...it just doesn't exist.
So "would" and "should" and "could"...nope.
So there is no exact sign for "would" or "should"...but you can express the idea of "You should go" by signing "you need go" (along with right facial expressions to indicate if you're saying someone really should go and not miss something or if you're kicking them out and they gotta go now.
The more languages you see/hear/learn, the more it gets easier to let go of the way things are phrased in your native language and just accept how the other language does things. But I still want a way to sign the conditional mood.
I think that part was directed toward me? Sorry if I thought wrong, but I'll respond. I am taking classes at the Deaf school here at night. ASL 2 is just finishing now, and I'll start ASL 3 in the fall. (all deaf teachers) In the meantime, I'm trying to get as much practice as I can with people at the local Deaf club, so these questions come up for me. I really appreciate your posting about this - everything (including disagreements!) are helpful. Thanks!With all due respect, I'm not sure where you are in your ASL journey, but I strongly suggest going to some kind of formal ASL classes, if only for the linguistic components. These types of linguistic questions, which are fairly challenging, are taught there. When taught by Deaf teachers, these kinds of linguistic conundrums can be completely clear.
for me - I'd sign the word grave (which is same as cemetery/graveyard/etc) - Sign for GRAVE | ASL Sign Language Video DictionaryWhat is the sign for "crypt" (like an underground graveyard typically in a mansion)?
Hmm since there are no specific sign for that - and ASL signs represent concepts ....for me - I'd sign the word grave (which is same as cemetery/graveyard/etc) - Sign for GRAVE | ASL Sign Language Video Dictionary
and since you're specifically talking about a crypt... an underground graveyard inside mansion... describe it just like that. there are several ways to do it.
big house. in. basement. *point* cemetery.
keep it simple. don't think too hard. you can either just fingerspell it as "crypt" or... simply sign it like what I described above. all you gotta do is "draw a picture" and describe it.Hmm since there are no specific sign for that - and ASL signs represent concepts ....
You mean like the left C with the right bent, face-down U "inserting" into the left C? Although that's more like a morgue though (ick, I know ... I've seen it).
How about this conceptual sign for that crypt - the left forearm (representing the ground) with the right face-down U "inserting" under the forearm (basement)? Aggh I dunno. I know I can't just make up signs like that out of the whim, but still ... I know there are some conceptual signs out there that's not specific to every word, you know?
Oh - and "mausoleum" (above-ground grave) - like the right U on top of the left hand?
Lol yeah, good point. Thanks!keep it simple. don't think too hard. you can either just fingerspell it as "crypt" or... simply sign it like what I described above. all you gotta do is "draw a picture" and describe it.
a sign for words like grave, crypt, graveyard, etc. is pretty much same thing. you just gotta add more description to it like big house (mansion) and underground and we pretty much would understand what you're trying to say. if some people are clueless, well they're clueless anyway... just like some hearing people may not have heard of the word "crypt" or never knew there's such thing like a crypt in basement
In that case, you should spell it out because it's part of a title. If someone asks what does "crypt" mean, then you can explain that with signs and classifiers.Lol yeah, good point. Thanks!
The reason I asked is b/c I was telling a friend about the old HBO show "Tales From The Crypt" (1989 to 1996) and I bought the complete set of DVDs last year - it's still my fave show along with NBC's Friends and a few others.