German violence against U.S. military personnel

[Chase]

A long-time German friend from Göppingen, Germany, sent me this and writes how too many Germans are celebrating this release after so little time. He says too many Germans are waging smear campaigns and violence against Americans stationed there. Whenever a group is disbanded, another is formed to carry on:

From Associated Press through Foxnews.com:

BERLIN — A German court said Friday it ordered the early release on parole of a former Red Army faction member who was convicted in the 1985 murder of a U.S. soldier.

Eva Haule can be released Aug. 21 after serving 21 years of her life sentence, the Frankfurt state court said in a statement.

Haule was convicted by a Stuttgart court in 1988 of membership in a terrorist organization and weapons possession.

In 1994, a Frankfurt court found her guilty of participating in the murder of Edward Pimental, l, a 20-year-old U.S. Army soldier, in the western German city of Wiesbaden, as well as in the bombing of the U.S. Rhein-Main Air Force Base.

Haule will become the second former member of the left-wing group that terrorized West Germany to win parole this year. In March, Brigitte Mohnhaupt was released after a quarter-century in prison for her involvement in some of the group's most notorious murders.

On Aug. 8, 1985, explosives packed in a Volkswagen rocked the parking lot behind the Rhein-Main Air Base headquarters in Frankfurt, killing Airman 1st Class Frank H. Scarton, 19, of Woodhaven, Mich., and Recky Jo Bristol, a civilian U.S. Air Force employee from San Antonio, Texas.
The blast also injured 23 people. The night before, Specialist Pimental, of New York City, was killed after leaving a Wiesbaden discotheque with a woman.
Authorities said the terrorists used Pimental's ID card to enter the air base.

Haule's release comes as Germany prepares to mark the 30th anniversary of the "German Autumn" of 1977, in which the Red Army Faction left a trail of dead as it fought to bring down a state it viewed as a capitalist oppressor. The terrorist group killed 34 people before declaring itself disbanded in 1998.

 

[Byrdie714]

A long-time German friend from Göppingen, Germany, sent me this and writes how too many Germans are celebrating this release after so little time. He says too many Germans are waging smear campaigns and violence against Americans stationed there. Whenever a group is disbanded, another is formed to carry on:

From Associated Press through Foxnews.com:

BERLIN — A German court said Friday it ordered the early release on parole of a former Red Army faction member who was convicted in the 1985 murder of a U.S. soldier.

Eva Haule can be released Aug. 21 after serving 21 years of her life sentence, the Frankfurt state court said in a statement.

Haule was convicted by a Stuttgart court in 1988 of membership in a terrorist organization and weapons possession.

In 1994, a Frankfurt court found her guilty of participating in the murder of Edward Pimental, l, a 20-year-old U.S. Army soldier, in the western German city of Wiesbaden, as well as in the bombing of the U.S. Rhein-Main Air Force Base.

Haule will become the second former member of the left-wing group that terrorized West Germany to win parole this year. In March, Brigitte Mohnhaupt was released after a quarter-century in prison for her involvement in some of the group's most notorious murders.

On Aug. 8, 1985, explosives packed in a Volkswagen rocked the parking lot behind the Rhein-Main Air Base headquarters in Frankfurt, killing Airman 1st Class Frank H. Scarton, 19, of Woodhaven, Mich., and Recky Jo Bristol, a civilian U.S. Air Force employee from San Antonio, Texas.
The blast also injured 23 people. The night before, Specialist Pimental, of New York City, was killed after leaving a Wiesbaden discotheque with a woman.
Authorities said the terrorists used Pimental's ID card to enter the air base.

Haule's release comes as Germany prepares to mark the 30th anniversary of the "German Autumn" of 1977, in which the Red Army Faction left a trail of dead as it fought to bring down a state it viewed as a capitalist oppressor. The terrorist group killed 34 people before declaring itself disbanded in 1998.

*smh*

Afterall we have done for them??

*smh*

 

[Buffalo]

Chase, does your german friend tell you why?


Liebling, if you do read this thread.....what is your opinion??

 

[Reba]

So what was the judge's lame excuse for letting them out early? I suppose the killers were "sorry" and rehabilitated.

If that's how they feel about American troops, maybe this would be a good time for American military to leave Germany. Let them defend themselves when Russia decides that Georgia isn't enough and wants to get back East Germany. Cutting off Russia's oil supply to Germany can do it. Also, the German sand crabs can be added to Germany's high unemployment numbers.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

A long-time German friend from Göppingen, Germany, sent me this and writes how too many Germans are celebrating this release after so little time.

Could you please provide the source to support your claim because I never heard that Germans are celebrating this release of former terrorist Eva Haule of last August 2007. Those news over Eva Haule´s release was last August 2007.

He says too many Germans are waging smear campaigns and violence against Americans stationed there. Whenever a group is disbanded, another is formed to carry on:

Is it because of Eva Haule ?

Did your friend tell you that Eva is the reason why many Germans are against Americans stationed there? If yes, then is not true. Please provide the source to prove me wrong if your friend claim about this is true.

From Associated Press through Foxnews.com:

BERLIN — A German court said Friday it ordered the early release on parole of a former Red Army faction member who was convicted in the 1985 murder of a U.S. soldier.

Eva Haule can be released Aug. 21 after serving 21 years of her life sentence, the Frankfurt state court said in a statement.

Haule was convicted by a Stuttgart court in 1988 of membership in a terrorist organization and weapons possession.

In 1994, a Frankfurt court found her guilty of participating in the murder of Edward Pimental, l, a 20-year-old U.S. Army soldier, in the western German city of Wiesbaden, as well as in the bombing of the U.S. Rhein-Main Air Force Base.

Haule will become the second former member of the left-wing group that terrorized West Germany to win parole this year. In March, Brigitte Mohnhaupt was released after a quarter-century in prison for her involvement in some of the group's most notorious murders.

On Aug. 8, 1985, explosives packed in a Volkswagen rocked the parking lot behind the Rhein-Main Air Base headquarters in Frankfurt, killing Airman 1st Class Frank H. Scarton, 19, of Woodhaven, Mich., and Recky Jo Bristol, a civilian U.S. Air Force employee from San Antonio, Texas.
The blast also injured 23 people. The night before, Specialist Pimental, of New York City, was killed after leaving a Wiesbaden discotheque with a woman.
Authorities said the terrorists used Pimental's ID card to enter the air base.

Haule's release comes as Germany prepares to mark the 30th anniversary of the "German Autumn" of 1977, in which the Red Army Faction left a trail of dead as it fought to bring down a state it viewed as a capitalist oppressor. The terrorist group killed 34 people before declaring itself disbanded in 1998.

You forget to provide the source here.

Could you please add the source here and

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Chase, does your german friend tell you why?

Yes, I decide to not say anything yet. I am thrilling to hear his answer to your question here.

Liebling, if you do read this thread.....what is your opinion??

I have read it and wait for Chase to answer your question because he is the one who created a thread here.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

*smh*

Afterall we have done for them??

*smh*

Reba´s post

So what was the judge's lame excuse for letting them out early? I suppose the killers were "sorry" and rehabilitated.

If that's how they feel about American troops, maybe this would be a good time for American military to leave Germany. Let them defend themselves when Russia decides that Georgia isn't enough and wants to get back East Germany. Cutting off Russia's oil supply to Germany can do it. Also, the German sand crabs can be added to Germany's high unemployment numbers.

Interesting responses.... All what I see you complaint about that German terrorists and forget quickly what and how US 3 teenagers of US Army killed Germans with large rocks? Worst is you forget quickly that US soliders raped and killed Germans brutal? Oh yes, it´s not just Germans but Iraqis, Albanian, including children in different countries?
Please try to remember what and how US soliders treat people including children in different countries in the past.


Reba, accord your part of post over Georgia, oil, etc. I really feel sorry for you... You are very bitter woman.

*shake my head quietly*

 

[Buffalo]

So what was the judge's lame excuse for letting them out early? I suppose the killers were "sorry" and rehabilitated.

If that's how they feel about American troops, maybe this would be a good time for American military to leave Germany. Let them defend themselves when Russia decides that Georgia isn't enough and wants to get back East Germany. Cutting off Russia's oil supply to Germany can do it. Also, the German sand crabs can be added to Germany's high unemployment numbers.

German sand crabs is a slang for what?

 

[Buffalo]

Liebling, I think I found the link: FOXNews.com - German in U.S. Soldier Murder Paroled - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

 

[Chase]

Buffalo, thanks for confirming what Reinar, my friend in Göppingen, cited at the top of the article: "From Associated Press through Foxnews.com." I'm happy to know he was correct.

As for reasons, neither the judge nor Reinar chose to say why.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Buffalo, thanks for confirming what Reinar, my friend in Göppingen, cited at the top of the article: "From Associated Press through Foxnews.com." I'm happy to know he was correct.

As for reasons, neither the judge nor Reinar chose to say why.

I fail to see that article, you posted without source and Buffalo's link to support your friend's claim.

It's not just US solider but Germans as well, German terrorists killed and hurt to.

German Court Orders Former RAF Terrorist Released on Parole | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 17.08.2007

 

[Jiro]

Reba, accord your part of post over Georgia, oil, etc. I really feel sorry for you... You are very bitter woman.

*shake my head quietly*

Don't get so defensive... Reba's just being sarcastic because she knew what you were going to say. I actually chuckled at Reba's post.

 

[Chase]

I fail to see that article, you posted without source and Buffalo's link to support your friend's claim.

You also must fail to see "From Associated Press through Foxnews.com" is an accurate source. But then, how can one be responsible for all the many, many things another fails to see?

 

[Reba]

German sand crabs is a slang for what?

"Sand crabs" are civilian employees on military bases. Not just German ones but all civilian workers.

 

[Reba]

Interesting responses.... All what I see you complaint about that German terrorists and forget quickly what and how US 3 teenagers of US Army killed Germans with large rocks? Worst is you forget quickly that US soliders raped and killed Germans brutal? Oh yes, it´s not just Germans but Iraqis, Albanian, including children in different countries?
Please try to remember what and how US soliders treat people including children in different countries in the past.

Oh yeah, and I forgot Cain and Abel. :roll:

The history of all violent attacks of all people against one another isn't the topic of this thread.

You can't whisk away the German anti-American situation by dredging up other events.

Reba, accord your part of post over Georgia, oil, etc. I really feel sorry for you... You are very bitter woman.

Do the Germans want the American military to stay or go? Which is it? Why?

 

[Reba]

German Court Orders Former RAF Terrorist Released on Parole | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 17.08.2007

German Court Orders Former RAF Terrorist Released on Parole

After serving 21 years of a life sentence for murder, ex-RAF terrorist Eva Haule will be released on parole after a Frankfurt court ordered her to be freed Friday. The court said that she no longer posed a public threat.

The Frankfurt court announced on Friday that it had ordered the release on parole of former Red Army Faction (RAF) member Eva Haule after determining that she no is longer a danger to the public after 21 years in prison.

Haule, who was first arrested in 1986, was serving a life sentence for the three murders, including that of a US Army soldier in Wiesbaden in 1985. When she is released on Tuesday, she will become the second member of the radical left-wing group to win parole this year.

Now that's a problem. A life sentence in Germany does NOT mean a LIFE sentence.

...A Frankfurt court found her guilty in 1994 of participating in the murder of Edward Pimental, a 20-year-old soldier from New York City, and the bombing of the US Rhein-Main air base, both in August 1985. She was also connected by the Frankfurt court to two other killings and 23 attempted murders.

Here's another problem. Attacking a US military base, ship, or embassy is the same thing as attacking American soil.

...In recent years, Haule spoke through her representatives from prison of her "extremely heavy guilt" in regard to her terrorist past. Her behavior behind bars over the years also led to a downgrading of her security status; Haule was moved from the women's prison at Frankfurt Preungesheim to the women's custody institution in Berlin-Neukölln.

There, as an open prisoner, Haule studied social educational theory and took a training course in photography.

It looks like she put her studies of "social" education to good use in convincing her jailers that she had "extremely heavy guilt." However, feeling guilty is not the same as repentance--that is, changing her ways. Sometimes it means getting a reduced prison sentence.

...Haule becomes the second RAF member to be released on parole this year after Brigitte Mohnhaupt was allowed back into society in February after serving 24 years of a life sentence for her involvement in multiple murders.

Again, what happened to a LIFE sentence meaning "life"?

 

[Jiro]

way too many zings!

imagine if that happened in USA! Life Sentence as in 21 years. what madness!!!!!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

German Court Orders Former RAF Terrorist Released on Parole | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 17.08.2007
Now that's a problem. A life sentence in Germany does NOT mean a LIFE sentence.


Here's another problem. Attacking a US military base, ship, or embassy is the same thing as attacking American soil.


It looks like she put her studies of "social" education to good use in convincing her jailers that she had "extremely heavy guilt." However, feeling guilty is not the same as repentance--that is, changing her ways. Sometimes it means getting a reduced prison sentence.


Again, what happened to a LIFE sentence meaning "life"?

Yes, this link I posted is the fact because many Germans disagreed with Justice system to sentence German terrorists. That´s why I asked Chase to provide the source to support his friend´s claim in my first post that many German are celebrating the release of former German terrorist because we know what Chase claim is about celebrating Eva´s release is a misleading.

 

[Reba]

Yes, this link I posted is the fact because many Germans disagreed with Justice system to sentence German terrorists. That´s why I asked Chase to provide the source to support his friend´s claim that many German are celebrating the release of former German terrorist because we know what Chase claim is about celebrating Eva´s release is a misleading.

I don't see that Chase's post is misleading.

I think your link supports Chase's statement.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Oh yeah, and I forgot Cain and Abel. :roll:

The history of all violent attacks of all people against one another isn't the topic of this thread.

You are the one who complaint about Georgia, oil etc. which is not relate to this thread here.

You can't whisk away the German anti-American situation by dredging up other events.

You assume what you want. It´s not just a US solider but Germans as well, German terrorists killed and hurt to.

Do the Germans want the American military to stay or go? Which is it? Why?

Your post sound that you hate Germany so much.

Anyway, for your information - German Government do not want to rely on US involvement.