Fredfam1 Conducts Another Experiment

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10 year old daughter is enjoying this learning task. But
she enjoys every learning task except long division.

7 year old son is excited and "getting it" very quickly!
As I said he already understands phonics but just
seems to have trouble blending his written words.

12 year old son is very bored and only complying
because it means no long division for 18 days.

Theory: 7 year old is kinesthetic learner
12 year old is auditory learner

Perhaps the reason this method doesn't always work
for Deaf children trying to learn speech is that some
children are born wired to learn kinestheticly and others
are not. This seems to me to be a very appropriate
method for teaching phonics to hearing children who are primarily
kinesthetic learners.

Todays task will be to learn face position number 1 or
FP1 as we have labled it. I took a green marker and drew
a dot on the right corners of our mouths. This position
means the vowel sounds "ee" and "ur". My 7 year old
caught on right away that he now had enough info to
cue the word "pee" with these two new skills, amidst
many giggles! Also we all get to walk around the house
all day with green dots on our faces. Most amuseing.
 
fredfam1 said:
10 year old daughter is enjoying this learning task. But
she enjoys every learning task except long division.

7 year old son is excited and "getting it" very quickly!
As I said he already understands phonics but just
seems to have trouble blending his written words.

12 year old son is very bored and only complying
because it means no long division for 18 days.

Theory: 7 year old is kinesthetic learner
12 year old is auditory learner

Perhaps the reason this method doesn't always work
for Deaf children trying to learn speech is that some
children are born wired to learn kinestheticly and others
are not. This seems to me to be a very appropriate
method for teaching phonics to hearing children who are primarily
kinesthetic learners.

Todays task will be to learn face position number 1 or
FP1 as we have labled it. I took a green marker and drew
a dot on the right corners of our mouths. This position
means the vowel sounds "ee" and "ur". My 7 year old
caught on right away that he now had enough info to
cue the word "pee" with these two new skills, amidst
many giggles! Also we all get to walk around the house
all day with green dots on our faces. Most amuseing.
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Thanks for the update...
No new thread for this? Your expedition will be great to follow.
 
fredfam1 said:
10 year old daughter is enjoying this learning task. But
she enjoys every learning task except long division.

7 year old son is excited and "getting it" very quickly!
As I said he already understands phonics but just
seems to have trouble blending his written words.

12 year old son is very bored and only complying
because it means no long division for 18 days.

Theory: 7 year old is kinesthetic learner
12 year old is auditory learner

Perhaps the reason this method doesn't always work
for Deaf children trying to learn speech is that some
children are born wired to learn kinestheticly and others
are not. This seems to me to be a very appropriate
method for teaching phonics to hearing children who are primarily
kinesthetic learners.

Todays task will be to learn face position number 1 or
FP1 as we have labled it. I took a green marker and drew
a dot on the right corners of our mouths. This position
means the vowel sounds "ee" and "ur". My 7 year old
caught on right away that he now had enough info to
cue the word "pee" with these two new skills, amidst
many giggles! Also we all get to walk around the house
all day with green dots on our faces. Most amuseing.
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I bet so much fun!!!! I love the updates! I am going to try during the Christmas break. Hey if I can learn Spanish, why not. My daughter and I start ASL after the 1st of the year. One of my students(I mentor him) from school and his family are taking it now and want me to join them.
 
Cloggy said:
Thanks for the update...
No new thread for this? Your expedition will be great to follow.
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No new thread. I will learn how to do a new thread after I
learn this. I am dsylexic and ADD. I can not let myself
get distracted with anything else. I think I'll just stay here
in my nice little corner and not set the "tilt" light off in my
brain!:fingersx:
 
vallee said:
I bet so much fun!!!! I love the updates! I am going to try during the Christmas break. Hey if I can learn Spanish, why not. My daughter and I start ASL after the 1st of the year. One of my students(I mentor him) from school and his family are taking it now and want me to join them.
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If I can learn something, anybody can. I decided I could learn to fly
when they sent trained monkeys into space. I said HEY! I CAN Do THAT!:giggle:
 
vallee said:
I bet so much fun!!!! I love the updates! I am going to try during the Christmas break. Hey if I can learn Spanish, why not. My daughter and I start ASL after the 1st of the year. One of my students(I mentor him) from school and his family are taking it now and want me to join them.
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I always took my kids to ASL classes when I could. The Deaf instructors loved
to include them in the activities we did as a class. You will have lots of fun with your ASL class! Remember though, ASL is almost like learning two languages to the brain. You have expressive skills, (you signing) and receptive skills (watching people sign). I am finding that video taping myself signing is helping me even more than watching videos of other people sign. (helping with my receptive)
But beware! Its much like hearing yourself for the first time on a tape player and you go! Yuck! My voice doesn't sound like that! When you see yourself signing for the first time you will have much the same reaction. You will go, Ewwww! I don't look like that when I sign! By the way its just not the same in a mirror!
 
Cueing tests still on day 2

Thank you cloggy for starting this thread for me!:ty:
I'm kinda like one of those trains that moves on its
own power along the floor, until it bumps into an object
and the wheels turn and it heads off in a different direction.
This will help keep me focused.

The most fun is the kids get to test me all day to see if I
remember the new material and can recall the old. "Quick
mom! What vowel sounds does the face position 1 make?"
(If I can't answer in a few seconds they give me the answer!)
I say, "No Fair! You gotta give me a minute to think!" Then they
run off to do something else with lots of giggles and high self
esteem! Sigh! I'm getting it though! "EE" and "UR" ! They are such
task masters!:whip:
 
Interesting Fredfam! How long have you being trying out CS for? I don't know much about it, except that as with any method in deaf education it inspires a lot of debate :)
 
R2D2 said:
Interesting Fredfam! How long have you being trying out CS for? I don't know much about it, except that as with any method in deaf education it inspires a lot of debate :)
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Ummm, 2 days now! I'm doing it to see if cueing for hearing children will
improve reading skills. I home school my kids and one is still having difficulty
blending his sounds, even though he knows all of the individual sounds.
He is largely a kinisthetic learner so I think this may be just his cup of tea.
I only found out about cued speech after reading some of the debates on the
topic here. It is difficult to argue for or against something if you haven't tried it. Like I told my daughter, you can't really say a book is bad and shouldn't be read if you haven't read it yourself.
 
This should be first but I don't know how to do that!

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Todays hand shape
Oh the kids are loving this! I wrote the sounds for the first handshape
on their index fingers and I wrote HS 1 on their fist. My 10 year old
reminded me they weren't supposed to write on themselves. I reminded
her that mommys' fifty year old memory wasn't working as well as it used
to and this was one of those exceptions.
The part they like best is this is one of those times where I am learning
something brand new as well, so they try to beat me at mastry. And they
often succeed. Todays hand shape is hand shape 1. The sounds are
d,p,and zh. The question is can I remember this befor the kids do? The
race is on!
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This Momma Wore Army Boots
 
End of Day 2

The kids have hand position one with its consonant sounds memorized.
(I still have to close my eyes to recite them, duh, puh and zhu)
They also have the first face position memorized with its vowel
sounds "ee" and "ur". I've got those down. It looks like I'm going
to have to work hardest on memorizing the consonants. Oh no!
I just looked and tomorrows hand shape has 4 consonant sounds!:eek3:
Tune in tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel.:giggle:
 
Day 3 and the 3rd hand position

Short Term Memory Loss Sucks

Am I cheating? I am getting daily preparation for this learning
task. I am the one writing the information down not only on
my hand as I make the shapes, but on the kids hands as well.
I am practicing at night during the comercials while I watch
my TV program. (these days that gives you lots of practice time)
The result? The kids have memorized Hand Shape one, Face
position one, and Hand Shape two with all related sounds.
Me? I can feel what I memorized yesterday trying to slip away
as I am inputing the new consonant sounds. While the kids recite
the new sounds from the new 3rd hand position, with only slight
hesitation and then review the previously learned ones with no
hesitation, I am still looking at my hand. This morning I could recite
HS1 and Face Position 1 sounds with no problem. Today as I try
to memorize the new ones, I am having to peek at my hand to
recall the two previous days. (I will do extra homework tonight
during comercials.) Or maybe I should play Mozart while working
on these. Maybe I should play Baby Mozart while working on these!:smash: This is me trying to smash new info into my brain. Once I begin something though. I never give up!Todays new consonant sounds are, wait let me try and type them without looking at my fingers, (th,v,z,dang theres one more)
ok I just peeked, it was K! Maybe I should use ASL and sign them on my
left hand to try and remember. More tomorrow!
 
Off topic, but is juniorboots one of your children? Just curious.
 
fredfam1 said:
Nope! Who is Juniorboots?
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Just happened to see the screen name here, and since your address contains the phrase "mamma wears army boots", I thought it might be a possibility. That's why I checked with you to clarify. Thought maybe one of your older chidlren had joined the forum to share experiences with CS.
 
jillio said:
Just happened to see the screen name here, and since your address contains the phrase "mamma wears army boots", I thought it might be a possibility. That's why I checked with you to clarify. Thought maybe one of your older chidlren had joined the forum to share experiences with CS.
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The mommawearsarmy boots is my blog about family life. I chose
that title because my daughter told me she was pretty old befor
she realized that that particular phrase was normally considered
a deragatory one, (obiviously I am working to change that!:giggle:)
She said she used to hear in and just become puzzled because
her mom did wear army boots, (still does, they are very practical
here on the farm) and she just didn't see the humor in it, when
she heard it in movies and such. There is one article in there about
how ASL is responsible for my marriage. Here is a portion of that blog.
Talking is Overated

The last time

I was required to talk to anybody I ended up getting

married and having 7 kids. I was living

in Anchorage Alaska at the time. I needed to maintain 12

credit hours to keep my funding going. I looked through

the schedule and the only class available was an American

Sign Language Class. In that class our instructor assigned

us the task of introducing ourselves to the very next deaf

person we saw in the community. I boarded the local public

transit system and looked for any deaf person. Scanning

the crowd I saw a man sitting alone and apparently signing

to himself. “Oh GREAT”, I thought. The first person I

meet is talking to himself. Ahh but the assignment came

first and I walked over as best I could in the swaying bus

and introduced myself. But I couldn’t understand him.

His signs didn’t look right. After about 20 minutes of

communication attempts I grew suspicious. Using my

voice I asked, “Are you deaf?!” Smiling broadly he

replied, “Nope, just practicing.” He had been using a

form of signed English, while I was using ASL.

Kind of like a New Yorker trying to talk with a deep woods

woman from Georgia. Definitely a communication barrier.

And that was how we met. I ended up marrying this amusing

fellow 23 years ago and fortunately this required communique

ended up on a positive note.
 
fredfam1 said:
The mommawearsarmy boots is my blog about family life. I chose
that title because my daughter told me she was pretty old befor
she realized that that particular phrase was normally considered
a deragatory one, (obiviously I am working to change that!:giggle:)
She said she used to hear in and just become puzzled because
her mom did wear army boots, (still does, they are very practical
here on the farm) and she just didn't see the humor in it, when
she heard it in movies and such. There is one article in there about
how ASL is responsible for my marriage. Here is a portion of that blog.
Talking is Overated

The last time

I was required to talk to anybody I ended up getting

married and having 7 kids. I was living

in Anchorage Alaska at the time. I needed to maintain 12

credit hours to keep my funding going. I looked through

the schedule and the only class available was an American

Sign Language Class. In that class our instructor assigned

us the task of introducing ourselves to the very next deaf

person we saw in the community. I boarded the local public

transit system and looked for any deaf person. Scanning

the crowd I saw a man sitting alone and apparently signing

to himself. “Oh GREAT”, I thought. The first person I

meet is talking to himself. Ahh but the assignment came

first and I walked over as best I could in the swaying bus

and introduced myself. But I couldn’t understand him.

His signs didn’t look right. After about 20 minutes of

communication attempts I grew suspicious. Using my

voice I asked, “Are you deaf?!” Smiling broadly he

replied, “Nope, just practicing.” He had been using a

form of signed English, while I was using ASL.

Kind of like a New Yorker trying to talk with a deep woods

woman from Georgia. Definitely a communication barrier.

And that was how we met. I ended up marrying this amusing

fellow 23 years ago and fortunately this required communique

ended up on a positive note.
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Smiling...what a wonderful story! I'm very glad that he wasn't a schisophrenic talking to the voices in his head!:giggle:
 
I am very curious if CS will help hearing children who struggle with literacy. Keep it up, Fredfam1! :)
 
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