Cochlear program to give deaf children best start to life

caz12 said:
there a unit part of one of the London hospitals for young deaf people who depressed and have issues largely due to being forced into oral rather than signing the CI caused lots of expectations from families and because the child could not be what parents wished these kids got lifetime of issues
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U know what made me think? How the parents say that the ASL programs aren't best for their families or doesn't fit their families' needs. Well, what about the CHILD? The one who is deaf? Hello?
 
shel90 said:
U know what made me think? How the parents say that the ASL programs aren't best for their families or doesn't fit their families' needs. Well, what about the CHILD? The one who is deaf? Hello?
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Yes exactly!
What it boils down to, is the unspoken message that oral only is best b/c it seems more normal....to me a parent chosing oral only is saying "oh no....we don't fully accept you as you are...........we're going to force you to confirm to OUR view of what is normal...you're gonna have to put all your energy into faking it,and being on the edge of spoken conversation"
 
caz12 said:
there a unit part of one of the London hospitals for young deaf people who depressed and have issues largely due to being forced into oral rather than signing the CI caused lots of expectations from families and because the child could not be what parents wished these kids got lifetime of issues
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interesting, it is sound failure CI lots of risk system I am lucky recovery..

that is why someone company force to out of control convinced to me control I was younger boy. surgery after. I told parent doesn't work

Nobody to to help me. excuse to me. I serious very strong feeling personal decide Not problem.

Why my issues healthy failure recovery and some few sue to doctor issues failure on perfect. but some some issues cause issues reporter to fill on cochlear implant

uncover to some teacher TA/interpreter never to tell me I was numberous review SPARC. it is very serious destruction on my cochlear implant chaos

waste of costly for inexpesnive but extras health insurance

it is sadly. I report to specialist to Doctor what is happened on my system function. it is serious CI risk

I lesson scary. I avoid on lesson I defense to limit SPARC.

It is very complication inappropriate.

It is really numerous for me shocking. it is very altos of system rough specialist expertiment doctor 99% assessment to remove implant.

CI doesn't help for you(implant). If suppose you worst headache.


It is very risk increase your health .I refusing to second implant no thank
I disagreement to CI. I mind to no matter. I many experience alots of 10yrs previous problem on CI is very failure problem aware for me
it is failure implant same.

system is very failure doesn't unsuccessfully. it is spending to costly is costly loss for money. your will worry insurance.

serious!
 
I guess in the end there are very different experiences on using a Cochlear Implant re: adults/ young children.
I have had my Cochlear Implant only 6 years-to date none of the above listed problems has occurred.
Is one factor the skill of the surgeon? aside: the doctor I had is an associate professor at University of Toronto-Cochlear Implant surgery.

Further aside: Sunnybrook/Toronto is one of the 3 hospitals that are designated by the Ontario government to "handle Cochlear Implants". Ottawa and London are the other 2 for adults. Specialized skills built up since 1984-valuable?
aside: children are handled at Hospital for Sick Children. Toronto in Ottawa-Children Hospital.

Different experiences in other Cochlear Implant centres around the world?
 
Dr Phil,that is b/c late deafened people are the best users of the CI....
 
The age distribution of Cochlear Implant users not exactly "widely disseminated".


Not a surprise: how long has Cochlear Implants been "around"?
 
drphil said:
The age distribution of Cochlear Implant users not exactly "widely disseminated".


Not a surprise: how long has Cochlear Implants been "around"?
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that is because they are targeting young deaf babies not late deafened adults, pretty obvious reason to this, it's money...
 
Grummer said:
that is because they are targeting young deaf babies not late deafened adults, pretty obvious reason to this, it's money...
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The actual experieince of Sunnybrook/Toronto since 1984 suggests otherwise re Implanting adults. 2 out of 3 referred adult patients-not suitable for Implants.
I have mentioned this fact many times.

What other Cochlear Implant centres actual experience-not mentioned here in Alldeaf.com?

Whether a 2 year old DEAF child is knowledgable about Cochlear Implants seems improbable. Thus the parents have to make all choices which is their responsiblity as parents. They were the ones that "brought the child into this world". Who they consult etc =up to them.

As for prelingual DEAF babies perhaps the "fact of absorbing speaking-easier" may be a factor in the parent's consideration re: Cochlear Implant.
 
TODtobe said:
But wasn't it a terible struggle? Haven't both of you said that it was tedious and difficult, and that many children were, in fact, not able to develop age appropriate spoken language? If that is the case, you should be celebrating CIs because they allow children to develop those skills without the years of therapy and tedious, difficult, and sometimes impossible struggles.
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Ok. Can't let this go.......I have NEVER met a Deaf child or adult with a cochlear implant (with a prelinguistic loss) who didn't endure years of tedious speech therapy. Let there be no mistake.... CIs are NOT a magic bullet. It is a tremendous commitment to implant a child. I see too many families who just were not realistic about the time and continual effort that kind of therapy takes all the while expecting their child to be oral while scratching their heads as to why their child is frustrated. :shock:
 
Grummer said:
that is because they are targeting young deaf babies not late deafened adults, pretty obvious reason to this, it's money...
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Precisely!!!!!! There's dead on right off the bat canidates.....the ones who get VERY little or no benifit from traditional aids....but the thing is,it's very difficult to discern how well a kid hears with hearing aids....Very difficult...I mean yeah you can tell that a dhh kid is hearing SOMETHING.....but you can't tell exactly how well they can hear.......So they freak parents out by implying if they wait their kid is going to end up selling ABC cards.....There are still audiologically deaf kids who benifit from aids you know!
 
I had younger really is worst to increase continue migraine serious . failure. serious kidding no joke. professor said found it assessment to 4 month already alots of investigate. it is very serious. it is sound look likes risk for you. I afraid for you advise reason cocern high level prevent to migraine is serious awful health doesn't work for me failure. reason I had previous younger migraine then surgery unsuccessfully no perfect. I have failure weakness migraine is something weak. No Joking serious why serious. I have treatment. I numerous. I really imply worst to suffer to headache to cochlear implant you don't believe to me. I wonder to. doctor said prevent to migraine will increase risk no damage brain.. I surprised. I lucky. remove implant everything fine. I go treatment right now lucky whew. I am serious I got to recently weird to annoy continue, I report to files history. I am really serious cochlear implant remove implant I am surprised for relief to cochlear implant is high risk for health for migraine or headache happened I learn lesson. It is unfortunately experiment to specialist to how issues limit. Migraine is very risk for your cochlear implant. It is very shocking to me!. I am really failure to system is very improper no doesn't work implant impossibles. to not perfect. I really investigate it aware improper system secure prevent to migrance It is very improve better, it a lots of better tough alots of lucky best effort improve implementation. it is cause not clear to dizzy half/ limit some migrance
 
Has the same centre-above- reported other persons Implanted with similar reactions from their Cochlear Implant operation?

Does it still operate today?
 
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