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I have not done this yet and I could be totally wrong, but my understanding is that the standard for VPs is equivalent H.323, so you could use a client that supported that - I believe NetMeeting for Windows does, and XMeeting for OS X - with a standard webcam?
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No, that is not true. You could use Envision SL from Sorenson, or PC based VP application from HOVRS. Net meeting and other apps will work with VRS, I know because I have assisted some customers about this.
Any of these PC based application WILL work with VP, just need to use Public IP address NOT phone number.
FYI as for now, phone directory on Envision SL is now temprarily out of service. So you still need to use Public IP address.
Any of these PC based application WILL work with VP, just need to use Public IP address NOT phone number.
FYI as for now, phone directory on Envision SL is now temprarily out of service. So you still need to use Public IP address.
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I started this thread, I should have explained more... what I ment is use a system where I can type what I want to tell them on my computer and then a interperter relays the message to the person with VRS, I do not know how to sign language, so using a video to talk with my computer I could not. - thanks
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Oh, no you can not use them, the only option you have is TRS, similiar to VRS, but it is TRS (TTY Relay Service) like Sorenson IP Relay, i711.com - Relay & Beyond. etc.
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It's not permissible for someone who is using sign language via VRS to use VRS to call someone else who cannot hear. That would mean that someone who cannot hear and uses a TTY or uses their voice but someone types to them is not allowed. In order for that to happen , the interpreter would have to have a TTY -- but they don't have a TTY when they're interpreting.
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I am trying to understand, are you deaf and don't know sign language and wanna talk with hearies over phone? If so, There is VCO available for VRS, you can choose any VRS that offers VCO.
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Why would u use text when u can see the terp via video? If u want text to relay service, then use ip based relay
If u want to talk to the VRS interpreter (and on to the hearing person) and do the lipreading the terp (terp could gesture) then use the vco feature of vrs
alternative, u use Windows NetMeeting or Camfrog to connect to hearing person directly and use the test feature in program. This would involve some shitty ip address or directory service
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Understanding
Ok, my understanding of this is pretty simple.
If you are a Deaf person, who does not speak and uses Sign Language, and you want to call a Hearing person, you can use your Videophone or Webcam to call VRS to call a Hearing person. The Deaf person signs, and the interpreter voices. When the Hearing person voices, the interpreter signs.
If you are a Hard-of-Hearing, Latened Deafened, or Oral Deaf person, who speaks and uses Sign Language, and you want to call a Hearing person, you can do the same thing, but you can also ask the interpreter to call you back on your home phone, for VCO. The interpreter will make a 3-way call to the Hearing person, so you can hear whatever you can and also look at the sign language.
The opposite applies if you are a Speech-Disabled person, who does not speak, but can hear, and uses Sign Language, for HCO calls.
If you are a Hearing person, you can call the toll-free number for VRS to reach a videophone/webcam user with a videophone number (Sorenson VRS, Hamilton VRS), ISDN number (Sprint/CSD/Federal VRS), ext. number(Hands On VRS, Sprint/CSD/Federal VRS) or IP address (any VRS provider).
If you are a videophone/webcam user, and you want to call another videophone/webcam user, you do not use VRS. You call them directly, and you use Sign Language. (At this time, there is no way for video conference calling. For example, if a Hard-of-Hearing person, who knows sign, but prefers to speak, wants to call a Deaf person, who uses sign, with an interpreter, that is not possible, without the Deaf person having 2 videophones or a videophone and a webcam.)
If you are Deaf, Hard-of-Hearing, or Speech-Disabled person, who does not use sign, and you want to call a Hearing person, you use TRS or IP-Relay. The same applies if you want to call a Hard-of-Hearing or Speech-Disabled person.
If you are a Deaf person, who does not sign, and you want to call another Deaf person, who does not sign, you do not use relay for that. You call the Deaf person's TTY/ASCII/Telebraille or IM that Deaf person directly.
If you are a Deaf person, who does not sign wanting to call a Deaf person who does sign or the other way around, you are not supposed to use relay for that, according to some. Every VRS, except Sorenson, allow neither videophone/webcam users to call TTY/ASCII/Telebraille/IM/VCO/HCO/STS users, nor TTY/ASCII/Telebraille/IM/VCO/HCO/STS users to call videophone webcam users. Sorenson VRS allows their customers to make VRS-to-Relay calls and Relay-to-VRS calls, because their customer service department claims, "The FCC allows that." However, a Hands On VRS Deaf Customer Service Representative told me, "No, the FCC does not allow that. Sorenson will do anything to they can to increase their number of calls." For example, if a Deaf videophone user, who signs, wants to call a Deaf TTY user, who types French, the Deaf videophone user could tell the interpreter to call Vermont Relay in French, and ask for English-to-French, to type to the Deaf person.
Ok, my understanding of this is pretty simple.
If you are a Deaf person, who does not speak and uses Sign Language, and you want to call a Hearing person, you can use your Videophone or Webcam to call VRS to call a Hearing person. The Deaf person signs, and the interpreter voices. When the Hearing person voices, the interpreter signs.
If you are a Hard-of-Hearing, Latened Deafened, or Oral Deaf person, who speaks and uses Sign Language, and you want to call a Hearing person, you can do the same thing, but you can also ask the interpreter to call you back on your home phone, for VCO. The interpreter will make a 3-way call to the Hearing person, so you can hear whatever you can and also look at the sign language.
The opposite applies if you are a Speech-Disabled person, who does not speak, but can hear, and uses Sign Language, for HCO calls.
If you are a Hearing person, you can call the toll-free number for VRS to reach a videophone/webcam user with a videophone number (Sorenson VRS, Hamilton VRS), ISDN number (Sprint/CSD/Federal VRS), ext. number(Hands On VRS, Sprint/CSD/Federal VRS) or IP address (any VRS provider).
If you are a videophone/webcam user, and you want to call another videophone/webcam user, you do not use VRS. You call them directly, and you use Sign Language. (At this time, there is no way for video conference calling. For example, if a Hard-of-Hearing person, who knows sign, but prefers to speak, wants to call a Deaf person, who uses sign, with an interpreter, that is not possible, without the Deaf person having 2 videophones or a videophone and a webcam.)
If you are Deaf, Hard-of-Hearing, or Speech-Disabled person, who does not use sign, and you want to call a Hearing person, you use TRS or IP-Relay. The same applies if you want to call a Hard-of-Hearing or Speech-Disabled person.
If you are a Deaf person, who does not sign, and you want to call another Deaf person, who does not sign, you do not use relay for that. You call the Deaf person's TTY/ASCII/Telebraille or IM that Deaf person directly.
If you are a Deaf person, who does not sign wanting to call a Deaf person who does sign or the other way around, you are not supposed to use relay for that, according to some. Every VRS, except Sorenson, allow neither videophone/webcam users to call TTY/ASCII/Telebraille/IM/VCO/HCO/STS users, nor TTY/ASCII/Telebraille/IM/VCO/HCO/STS users to call videophone webcam users. Sorenson VRS allows their customers to make VRS-to-Relay calls and Relay-to-VRS calls, because their customer service department claims, "The FCC allows that." However, a Hands On VRS Deaf Customer Service Representative told me, "No, the FCC does not allow that. Sorenson will do anything to they can to increase their number of calls." For example, if a Deaf videophone user, who signs, wants to call a Deaf TTY user, who types French, the Deaf videophone user could tell the interpreter to call Vermont Relay in French, and ask for English-to-French, to type to the Deaf person.