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it hasn't derailed the thread. the issues being discussed are part of the overall discussion and issues. very much so.

the plm is though.

through the action of supporting the ci industry via not only getting implants but arguing for them, this in turn perpetuates that industry who drills holes in our babies heads at an accelerating rate.


the industry spans borders as does our resistance to it.


they are committing cultural genocide.

and they are reaping huge profits over it


we just need to be clear on what here is at stake and what is being discussed.

the products are not neutral


allot of lives are harmed due to them


i appreciate your reply.

as for you. have you ever considered learning sign so you can freely communicate with your daughter no wires attached?

have you explored our culture? your invited too..its your culture also if you want it.


sign requires no middle man, or multi nationals

no batteries, or drilled holes


it just requires you and a little will.

it can be used in more environments

doesn't break

and is the superior technology.


give it some thought


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