High Tylenol doses linked to liver woes

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By CARLA K. JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
51 minutes ago

CHICAGO - Healthy adults taking maximum doses of Tylenol for two weeks had abnormal liver test results in a small study, researchers found, raising concerns that even recommended amounts of the popular painkiller might lead to liver damage.

In the study, 106 participants took four grams of Tylenol — equivalent to eight extra-strength Tylenol tablets — each day for two weeks. Some took Tylenol alone and some took it with an opioid painkiller. Dummy pills were given to 39 others.

There were no alarming liver test results among the people who took the placebos. But nearly 40 percent of people in all the other groups had abnormal test results that would signal liver damage, according to the study that appears in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association.

"I would urge the public not to exceed four grams a day. This is a drug that has a rather narrow safety window," said a study co-author, Dr. Neil Kaplowitz of the University of Southern California.

Heavy drinkers should take no more than two grams daily, Kaplowitz said.

Another co-author, Dr. Paul Watkins of the University of North Carolina, said he's less worried than Kaplowitz, noting that acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol, has been used for 50 years and has a good safety record.

The maker of Tylenol, McNeil Consumer & Specialty Pharmaceuticals, said its own research found much lower rates of abnormal liver results. The company's studies tracked high-dose users over longer periods than did the new study.

"It doesn't lead to liver disease and it usually resolves as patients continue to take acetaminophen," said Dr. Edwin Kuffner, senior director of medical affairs at McNeil.

The researchers had been hired by the drug company Purdue Pharma LP, maker of the prescription painkiller OxyContin, to find out why abnormal liver tests were showing up in people testing a combination drug containing the acetaminophen and the opiate hydrocodone.

Purdue Pharma stopped its hydrocodone study early because of the abnormal liver tests. Researchers Watkins and Kaplowitz thought they would find the culprit in hydrocodone's interaction with acetaminophen.

"Our jaws dropped when we got the data," Watkins said. "It doesn't have anything to do with the opiate. It's good ol', garden-variety acetaminophen."

Acetaminophen is more popular than aspirin or ibuprofen. Each week, one in five U.S. adults uses it for pain or fever, a 2002 survey found.

Acetaminophen is included in numerous over-the-counter and prescription medications, making overdose possible as people unwittingly combine drugs. Overdoses of acetaminophen are the leading cause of acute liver failure.

"A week doesn't go by when I don't have to talk to someone about how much they're taking," said Kathleen Besinque of the USC School of Pharmacy.

Watkins said people considering switching painkillers should know that others have their own side effects, such as internal bleeding and stomach irritation.

New research under way at the University of North Carolina may determine if acetaminophen's effect on the liver continues for long-term, high-dose users, or if the body adapts, Watkins said.

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On the Net:

JAMA: http://jama.ama-assn.org

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Yahoo Article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060704/ap_on_he_me/painkiller_liver
 
You know of anything that is 100 % natural than taking any of those brand name medications ?
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
Natural...:rofl:

Ohh.... I am not talking about smoking marweed. :rofl:

I am talking about 100 % natural plants that I can eat or take that are made from plants and contain no chemicals like Tylenol, Advil etc.....
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
I hate Tylenol.

Tylenol is useless.

I prefer Advil/Ibuprofen.

:werd: The only time acetamenophen is worth a crap is when it has hydrocodone in it.

:D
 
Heath said:
By CARLA K. JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer
51 minutes ago

CHICAGO - Healthy adults taking maximum doses of Tylenol for two weeks had abnormal liver test results in a small study, researchers found, raising concerns that even recommended amounts of the popular painkiller might lead to liver damage.

In the study, 106 participants took four grams of Tylenol — equivalent to eight extra-strength Tylenol tablets — each day for two weeks. Some took Tylenol alone and some took it with an opioid painkiller. Dummy pills were given to 39 others.

There were no alarming liver test results among the people who took the placebos. But nearly 40 percent of people in all the other groups had abnormal test results that would signal liver damage, according to the study that appears in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association.

"I would urge the public not to exceed four grams a day. This is a drug that has a rather narrow safety window," said a study co-author, Dr. Neil Kaplowitz of the University of Southern California.

Heavy drinkers should take no more than two grams daily, Kaplowitz said.

Another co-author, Dr. Paul Watkins of the University of North Carolina, said he's less worried than Kaplowitz, noting that acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol, has been used for 50 years and has a good safety record.

The maker of Tylenol, McNeil Consumer & Specialty Pharmaceuticals, said its own research found much lower rates of abnormal liver results. The company's studies tracked high-dose users over longer periods than did the new study.

"It doesn't lead to liver disease and it usually resolves as patients continue to take acetaminophen," said Dr. Edwin Kuffner, senior director of medical affairs at McNeil.

The researchers had been hired by the drug company Purdue Pharma LP, maker of the prescription painkiller OxyContin, to find out why abnormal liver tests were showing up in people testing a combination drug containing the acetaminophen and the opiate hydrocodone.

Purdue Pharma stopped its hydrocodone study early because of the abnormal liver tests. Researchers Watkins and Kaplowitz thought they would find the culprit in hydrocodone's interaction with acetaminophen.

"Our jaws dropped when we got the data," Watkins said. "It doesn't have anything to do with the opiate. It's good ol', garden-variety acetaminophen."

Acetaminophen is more popular than aspirin or ibuprofen. Each week, one in five U.S. adults uses it for pain or fever, a 2002 survey found.

Acetaminophen is included in numerous over-the-counter and prescription medications, making overdose possible as people unwittingly combine drugs. Overdoses of acetaminophen are the leading cause of acute liver failure.

"A week doesn't go by when I don't have to talk to someone about how much they're taking," said Kathleen Besinque of the USC School of Pharmacy.

Watkins said people considering switching painkillers should know that others have their own side effects, such as internal bleeding and stomach irritation.

New research under way at the University of North Carolina may determine if acetaminophen's effect on the liver continues for long-term, high-dose users, or if the body adapts, Watkins said.

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On the Net:

JAMA: http://jama.ama-assn.org

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Yahoo Article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060704/ap_on_he_me/painkiller_liver

This isn't new. Tylenol has had warnings on it for awhile about the possibility of liver damage or failure; especially in people who drink alcohol. All one has to do is read the label on the bottle.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
This isn't new. Tylenol has had warnings on it for awhile about the possibility of liver damage or failure; especially in people who drink alcohol. All one has to do is read the label on the bottle.

No shit.

Same goes for all the other OTC meds as well.
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
No shit.

Same goes for all the other OTC meds as well.

Yup! :whistle:

Btw, something I did not know, though...

Ibruprophen has an associated risk of bleeding that goes with it. I had surgery a few months ago. I also take a precription for motrin (ibruprophen), and was told to stop taking it two weeks before the scheduled surgery. I did, and the surgery went fine. I resumed taking the precription when I came home from the hospital five days after surgery.
 
Reading between the lines, this is more about prescription drug abuse. Ordinarly, millions of people take Tylenol pills without any ill or long-lasting effects. Millions of people have no reason to abuse Tylenol, only taking them as needed.

But, when tylenol is combined with opoid and other narcotic substances, this is when it can be damaging to the liver and body. People want the narcotic rush, and after a while, tolerance builds up. So, people double their dose to get the same rush, and so forth. By the time they're on a heavy dosage, the Tylenol gets more deadly, as the body does not build up a similiar tolerance.

I guess there's a reason why pharmaceuticals continue to put Tylenol in their pain killing medication. If they did not put Tylenol in there, people would abuse their painkillers to unprecedented heights. Already, people are dying from Fetanyl patches, which is all heroin.

Having Tylenol in painkillers, while possessing therapeutic value, also acts as a drag on the narcotic intake among its users. In a fit of irony, the dangerous properties of Tylenol could be considered as a 'safety' feature when used with opoids and other narcotic substances.
 
Eyeth said:
Reading between the lines, this is more about prescription drug abuse. Ordinarly, millions of people take Tylenol pills without any ill or long-lasting effects. Millions of people have no reason to abuse Tylenol, only taking them as needed.

But, when tylenol is combined with opoid and other narcotic substances, this is when it can be damaging to the liver and body. People want the narcotic rush, and after a while, tolerance builds up. So, people double their dose to get the same rush, and so forth. By the time they're on a heavy dosage, the Tylenol gets more deadly, as the body does not build up a similiar tolerance.

I guess there's a reason why pharmaceuticals continue to put Tylenol in their pain killing medication. If they did not put Tylenol in there, people would abuse their painkillers to unprecedented heights. Already, people are dying from Fetanyl patches, which is all heroin.

Having Tylenol in painkillers, while possessing therapeutic value, also acts as a drag on the narcotic intake among its users. In a fit of irony, the dangerous properties of Tylenol could be considered as a 'safety' feature when used with opoids and other narcotic substances.

I can see your point, but OTC tylenol has also been linked to liver damage. Drinkers have a higher incidence of liver problems than other people, though.

Essentially, overdosing on tylenol isn't a good thing. Regardless if it's in the opiate or by itself.

I would say know what you're taking, and also, take it as precribed. If you're taking a narcotic, take the minimum dose effective, and for no longer than necessary.
 
hi folks i used to take tylenol but it doesnt help a long time ago. I decided to stop using tylenol and other pills... i dont believe in pills. without pills i feel great...... i dont trust therapists and doctors inspite of taking tablets... i am forced to take pills that are not tylenol and painkillers. i recently read an articles if you are told by doctors or therapists to take pills, let doctors and therapists worry..... it depends on your decision. i still take pills that are not tylenol or painkillers. yes, pills are really harmful to health.
 
hi folks i used to take tylenol but it doesnt help a long time ago. I decided to stop using tylenol and other pills... i dont believe in pills. without pills i feel great...... i dont trust therapists and doctors inspite of taking tablets... i am forced to take pills that are not tylenol and painkillers. i recently read an articles if you are told by doctors or therapists to take pills, let doctors and therapists worry..... it depends on your decision. i still take pills that are not tylenol or painkillers. yes, pills are really harmful to health.

Huh? You're not making sense. You don't believe in medication, and yet, you're still using certain kinds of medication? That's contradictory, isn't it?

Anyway, regardless, I strongly disagree with your statement. Last year, I contracted a very severe infection. Without the drugs used to fight this infection, I'd quite literally be dead now.

Also, I have other conditions that requires the use of daily medications. Without these drugs, I'd quite possibly be in a life threatening situation.
 
i am allergic to tablets because of chemicals, etc.... i prefer herbs. in old times there were no injection, blood tests, pills, surgeries, etc... they still collects herbs from the plants..... herbs are less harmful. i pray oceanbreeze is recovering well... i prefer natural death instead of taking pills... people are grownup fully or partly until death. death is very common .... yes some pills help sick people.... that is hard decision.
 
thats why they said not to excess more than what you are taking.. but only take for pains if you REALLY need it.. take it then.. but if its dull .. i try to relax and sleep .. sometimes it can do wonders.. like if its tension headaches.. i would get off and walk.. it can make tenison headaches go away?? i only take it if its really painful.. not for a SLIGHT headache.. i dont.. i notice i take it only for migraine headaches and pms thats it.. :)
 
i am allergic to asprin
so i am stuck with tyenol but i don't take them lot only it is need

i am being careful smile
 
Just a matter of dose.
Myself, I don't like taking pills, but if I have to, I will. It's either that or being dead.
 
I don't take it so often but I just take Advil, that all.
 
There's no difference since every pill bottle has a warning label on it not just tylenol, and I do take tylenols when I have a bad headache or when needed...
 
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