Green jobs stimulus will cost $135,000 each - temporarily that is.

Jiro said:
several posts long and still no answer..... :hmm:
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Yet they run off to their favourite forums to complain about particular members here when they can't get any support here.

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How about a Banjo Duel?
 
Banjo said:
It's not really an answer if we are already doing it.
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But we're not. We were almost in a good position 30 or 40 years ago but that has flipped entirely the other direction with even less control. The U.S. is sitting on the biggest natural resources of any country.
 
kokonut said:
But we're not. We were almost in a good position 30 or 40 years ago but that has flipped entirely the other direction with even less control. The U.S. is sitting on the biggest natural resources of any country.
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Are these natural resources renewal?

If not, then it's not worth taking advantage of until they find a way to re-use the natural resources they have in the USA.
 
"biggest resources"

Everyone says that. I remember two years ago that a researcher said Yellowknife and surrounding areas got the biggest cache of oil in the world that is untapped. *rolls eyes* Problem with using "biggest resource" as a phrase is that it's subjective in the name nationalist capitalism.
 
Banjo said:
Yet they run off to their favourite forums to complain about particular members here when they can't get any support here.[/url]

How about a Banjo Duel?
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I'm flattered. But what does that have to do with this thread? This is about the green jobs and how and why it hasn't worked and it's not the answer (too soon) for greater energy independence.
 
souggy said:
"biggest resources"

Everyone says that. I remember two years ago that a researcher said Yellowknife and surrounding areas got the biggest cache of oil in the world that is untapped. *rolls eyes* Problem with using "biggest resource" as a phrase is that it's subjective accordingly to nationalism.
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Natural resources cover many things and not just only oil. Look again.
 
kokonut said:
I'm flattered. But what does that have to do with this thread? This is about the green jobs and how and why it hasn't worked and it's not the answer (too soon) for greater energy independence.
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Flattered? Heh. You sure know how to flatter yourself.

America needs energy independence, but to extract them without a plan to renew/reuse them is a grave mistake one can make and the country will pay for it dearly in the end.
 
Why should I look again? Northwest Territories have been toted around as "biggest untapped natural resources" in all areas since they discovered diamonds 10-15 years ago.

China got the same agenda going on. So does Russia, and America. And Brazil. And Australia. They all prop up their countries and regions.
 
Banjo said:
Are these natural resources renewal?

If not, then it's not worth taking advantage of until they find a way to re-use the natural resources they have in the USA.
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It's renewable (though not that quickly). The infrastructure and the time it takes to be completely carbon-free will take decades, not years. Why pay for other countries resources if they have unstable government or do not like the United States, and that their environmetal laws are non-existent? Wouldn't it be better to have greater control in using our own resources and be accountable and plan for the eventual carbon-free energy resource? Again, this is on a time scale that'll take a few decades or so for a complete turnaround.

Why do you think China is buying up these natural resources? "Green energy" isn't the answer at this point. It only a very small solution and even that alone isn't as dependable as using natural resources (well, use of nuclear power is a use of a natural resource, too). Electric cars is a bad example on the use of "green energy." It isn't "green" at all.
 
souggy said:
Why should I look again? Northwest Territories have been toted around as "biggest untapped natural resources" in all areas since they discovered diamonds 10-15 years ago.

China got the same agenda going on. So does Russia, and America. And Brazil. And Australia. They all prop up their countries and regions.
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Natural resources as for energy use. North America has the if not the biggest share of natural resources available to them than any other countries in the world. Which is ironic considering where the U.S. gets it's stored energy from.
 
kokonut said:
Natural resources as for energy use. North America has the if not the biggest share of natural resources available to them than any other countries in the world. Which is ironic considering where the U.S. gets it's stored energy from.
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Meaning from Canada since we are America's biggest oil supplier?
 
Banjo said:
Flattered? Heh. You sure know how to flatter yourself.

America needs energy independence, but to extract them without a plan to renew/reuse them is a grave mistake one can make and the country will pay for it dearly in the end.
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It's better to have control over our own resources than to depend on other countries that are unstable and unfriendly. Both Canada and the U.S. sit on a gold mine of natural resources that is, imo, unparallel than any other countries in the world. Or at least come very close to it.

Our infrastructure alone assures us that we'll be dependent on these natural resources that will require mining. This is a planning that will need take 30 or 40 years for the process to complete itself to a more cleaner and acceptable form of energy resource. Want to continue paying 40 years to other unstable countries who have control over these resources or would it be better that we have control over our own resources and at the same time plan for the weaning over time. For example, about $500 billion dollars is spent annually on imported oil. That money need to be re-circulated back into our economy, our infrastructure, and our planning 20, 30 and 40 years down the road.
 
Banjo said:
Meaning from Canada since we are America's biggest oil supplier?
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Talking about untapped energy resources. It would seem that the U.S. has more untapped resources than Canada, or so it seems since we have more offshore resources to tap into than Canada.
 
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