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There's next update for fix bugs on 1080p... Did you got it?
 
Pacman said:
There's next update for fix bugs on 1080p... Did you got it?
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I just got my new television with 1080 support.

I will test it with xbox 360 with vga support soon.

Remember that, games does not support up to 1080p. Just 720p and 1080i.

1080p is only for blu-ray and hd-dvd.

Broadcast channels only supports up to 720p and 1080i.

I will show you when i will take several picture of new television that will tell you which supports 720p, 1080i and 1080p.



In the future, for games and broadcast channels will support 1080p.
 
sjones4dad said:
I just got my new television with 1080 support.

I will test it with xbox 360 with vga support soon.

Remember that, games does not support up to 1080p. Just 720p and 1080i.

1080p is only for blu-ray and hd-dvd.

Broadcast channels only supports up to 720p and 1080i.

I will show you when i will take several picture of new television that will tell you which supports 720p, 1080i and 1080p.



In the future, for games and broadcast channels will support 1080p.
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Well, More new games will support 1080p but we can do with 1920 x 1080 on monitor.
 
Pacman said:
Well, More new games will support 1080p but we can do with 1920 x 1080 on monitor.
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What game support 1080p now? Yes, but games are not 1080p support yet.

I looked over game boxes. No 1080p support yet. Just 720p and 1080i.

For me, I am going to hook up vga that I bought several days ago after i read this. I found several post about vga for 1080p won't work with Sony HDTV. Now, i read on Sony forums and now it worked this time. YEAHOOO!!

I played several games supports 1080i with my new tv. But it is not hooked up with VGA. Xbox 360 said that some component can supports up to 1080p. My sony tv does not accept component 1080p. Some hdtv does have 1080p for component.

I dont know which games are support up to 1080p. So I am going to try several games pop in xbox 360 and sony hdtv. So, my television will tell me which supports 480p,480i,720p,1080i, and 1080p. So far, when i am watching football games, tv shows like CSI. and Disney. On football games, some supports to 720p and 1080i. Both are amazing. I went back to regular channels which are not HDTV support. Those are 480p and 480i. Boring 4:3 size. Went back to CBS football supports on 1080i. Fox HD supports 720p. Both are almost same, but those are 16:9 as widescreen.

CSI 1080i, ABC 720p, NBC 1080i, Fox 720p. Those are excellent hdtv broadcast channels.

Several channels which are not suppose to be there like Cinemax HD,premuim channels, and pay views that I dont have subscription for this. I am shocked to have that channels. For several hours, it shut down. It will pop up later for a while.

Also I was amazing to see Star Wars in Cinemax HD and it is 1080i. It had incredible picture and colors.

This post that i read on several days ago.

Q. Is it true that I have to use a high definition television with the Xbox 360?

A. This is false. The Xbox 360 supports many different connections to many types of televisions, from composite connections for standard televisions to component and VGA connections for high definition televisions and computer monitors.

Q. Do all games for the Xbox 360 support high definition?

A. Yes, all games that are genuine Xbox 360 titles must support at least 720p. Following the October 25th relaunch of Xbox.com there were several games including Oblivion and NBA2K6 that had pages stating that they supported 480i. This is a bit of misinformation or oversight that will be corrected soon. Every indication from Microsoft is that every game that is ever released for the platform must support at least 720p.
Q. Do I need any kind of set-top box to play games in high definition on my Xbox 360?

A. No, you need no external hardware to enjoy Xbox 360 games in high definition. The only “extra” thing you’ll need is either the Xbox 360 Component HD AV Cable or the Xbox 360 VGA HD AV Cable.

Q. I have an HDTV, I have an Xbox 360… how do I get high definition?

A. First you need to plug everything in. If you’re using the component HD AV cable you plug the red, green, and blue RCA cables into the respective inputs on your display. If you’re using the VGA HD AV cable, you’ll plug the single connector into the respective input.

If you’re using component, be sure to flip the switch on the Xbox connector side to the “HD” setting. If you don’t, you won’t get high definition resolutions available in the dashboard.

Once you’re plugged in, turn on the Xbox 360 and navigate to the System blade of the dashboard and go to the Console Settings. Here, select the Display option and choose the Resolution. The available resolutions depend on which cable you’ve installed.

Q. What about Xbox games like Halo and Halo 2 played via the backwards compatible mode? Will they be displayed in high definition?

A. Yes. Actually, all backward compatible games will be upscaled and support FSAA. That said, there is some confusion whether Bungie has done something additional with Halo and Halo 2 to have it actually render to a 1280×720 internal framebuffer instead of merely being upscaled. However, it is almost certain that it is only upscaled as direct questions to Bungie regarding the precise process have gone unanswered.

Q. Will games look terrible on anything but high definition televisions?

A. No, games will not look terrible on standard televisions. Given that the graphics in Xbox 360 games will have greater overall detail in terms of polygon counts and texture sizes, Xbox 360 games will almost certainly look better than games from previous generation consoles, even on standard televisions. As an example, Xbox games look considerably better than, say, Playstation 1 games due to the amount of detail the Xbox was capable of producing in comparison with the Playstation. Similarly, Xbox 360 is more capable of producing detail than any preceding console.

Q. Are all games displayed in widescreen or letterboxed on all displays?
Some games will be displayed in letterbox format on standard 4×3 displays. Game developers can choose to support widescreen and full screen in their games, it’s entirely up to them.
Q. Can I use my computer monitor as my display for the Xbox 360?

A. Yes, depending on the type of monitor you have. And you will likely be able to play games in high definition too. The Xbox 360 supports the following resolutions when using the VGA AV connector: 640×480, 848×480, 1024×768, 1280×720, 1280×768, 1280×1024, 1360×768, and 1920×1080. In order to use your monitor you will most likely need to purchase the Xbox 360 VGA HD Cable and connect it to your monitor’s VGA port. If you don’t have a free VGA port on your monitor, you will either need to switch back and forth or purchase a VGA switcher.

Support for 1920×1080 was added during the Fall Dashboard Update in October 2006. There are many reports of some incompatibilities with various nominally 1080p displays including the Dell 2405.
Q. What about my laptop? Can I plug the Xbox 360 into my laptop and use its screen?

A. No, you cannot plug the Xbox 360 into a laptop and use the screen. If you’re laptop has a video input, you can plug the composite cable from the Xbox 360 into it and view it, but it will not be in high definition making it likely worse than even a moderately sized standard television.

Q. But if I use my monitor, how will I get sound?

A. With speakers, of course . The Xbox 360 VGA Cable package provides a pair of stereo RCA cables for standard stereo sound as well as an optical digital audio connection (optical digital audio cable not included). You will therefore need at least a set of powered, stereo speakers that accept a pair of standard stereo RCA connections or a fancier surround sound model (e.g. the Logitech z680) that can accept an optical input for the sophisticated gamer.

Another option if you have a sound card available on your PC is to use an external converter and plug the stereo sound output directly into the sound card. That way all of the sound from your Xbox 360 is routed through your computer’s standard sound interface.

Q. My HDTV only supports 1080i but I’ve heard that most games are programmed for 720p. Will I be able to play games in high definition?

A. Absolutely. Some HDTVs do not include a built-in scaler to handle non-native resolutions. The Xbox 360 has the needed built-in scaler that will scale the output to any resolution you need. In the case of HDTVs that only support 1080i, the game might render to an internal 720p frame buffer, but the output scaler will scale that output up to a 1080i signal that your HDTV can display. Yes, it will still be gorgeous. As an example, both ABC and ESPN-HD broadcast their high definition content in 720p, so if you’re receiving that content there’s scaling being done somewhere in your equipment chain.

Q. Do I need anything else to play DVDs from my Xbox 360 (like the DVD remote and dongle for the original Xbox)?

A. No, the Xbox 360 plays DVDs out of the box with no additional purchases required. You can control the DVD player with the game controllers, with the included media remote in the $399 Xbox 360 package, or with the expanded remote available separately.

Q. Does the Xbox 360 upscale standard DVD movies?

A. Absolutely, but only if you’re using the VGA connection. During the so-called “Spring Dashboard Update” Microsoft enabled DVD upscaling over the VGA connection, so if you’re using VGA you’ll see movies in whatever resolution you’ve set in the dashboard. However, this is only over VGA. Also, with Fall Dashboard Update, standard DVD movies will be upscaled to 1080p on displays that support it, again only over the VGA connection.

Q. What does the Xbox 360 HD-DVD Player do for me?

Why, play HD-DVD movies, of course . The Xbox 360 HD-DVD Player is a software-based solution, meaning all of the decoding and other tasks are all performed on the 360’s triple-core processor. This has its advantages and disadvantages. It’s easy to update the software over Xbox Live if needed as compared to a hardware solution and it should be fairly flexible. It will, however, work the Xbox 360 harder than just about anything on the market as the entire process of using an HD-DVD in software is actually fairly complex, requiring 4.7 million lines of code solely for the HD-DVD processing.

You still use your built-in drive to play games on the Xbox 360. Microsoft continually states that they will not use the HD-DVD drive for game discs in the future. You’re welcome to play your standard DVDs in either the built-in drive or the HD-DVD drive, there’s no functional difference.

Q. What kind of resolution do I get out of the Xbox 360 HD-DVD Player?

Everything up to 1080p, depending on various factors. If you’re using the VGA connection you’ll get up to 1080p on everything from games to standard DVDs to HD-DVDs. If you’re using component you’ll get up to 1080p on games, but only up to 1080i on HD-DVD movies and only up to 480p over component.

Q. Do games look that much better on an HDTV compared with a regular television? Is it worth the money?

A. Yes, most people that have experienced HDTV resolution would say it’s worth it. High definition television displays a 1280 x 720 progressive picture in 720p, a 1920 x 1080 interlaced picture in 1080i or a full 1920 x 1080 image in 1080p for up to six times the overall resolution compared with standard 480i. To make an example, think of playing a game on your computer in 640×480. That’s approximately like playing at standard resolution. Now change the resolution to 1280 x 720 or 1600 x 1200 (or 1920 x 1080 if you have it). The amount of information in the picture is vastly greater. In addition the connection technology used for high definition — component or VGA — is traditionally capable of transporting a clearer, sharper image than composite or S-video.

Q. Will there be an HDMI/DVI connection on the Xbox 360?

A. No, not at launch. Microsoft has said that they will provide one “when it makes sense.” There are many rumors about Microsoft releasing an HDMI cable sometime in the Christmas 2006 timeframe, but there’s been no confirmation of this.

UPDATE: More rumors and some actual photos of the Japanese Lost Planet Xbox 360 bundle. This bundle is rumored to be the introduction for the HDMI AV cable. Microsoft is, of course, issuing a denial calling it a “misprint”. See shots below (click for larger).



UPDATE #2: This has supposedly been debunked as an unsubstantiated rumor. Pity.

Q. Which cables support digital, multi-channel surround sound?

A. All of them except the composite cable have connections for an optical digital audio cable. The optical digital audio cable itself is not included in any package.

Q. Which cable should I get? Which one has better quality?

A. In general VGA and component are about the same in terms of picture quality. However, if you have an HDTV that only accepts a 1080i input signal, only the component connection will work for you. The 360 will not output a true 720p or 1080i HD signal over VGA, only computer resolutions of 640×480, 848×480, 1024×768, 1280×720, 1280×768, 1280×1024, 1360×768 and 1920×1080 (progressive). In most other cases the VGA connection provides more options, especially when viewing movies on DVD or HD-DVD.
 
Ask DefMATRIXense, After update is done then all games are support 1080p.

Only 720p and 1080i is old, it was from last year since Xbox 360 don't support 1080p until Oct 2006.

Anyone said component cable support 1080p is BS because only HDMI/DVI support about up to 1080p.
 
Heh...seems that VGA is starting to be looking better than HDTV. *kissing my VGA cables*
 
Steel X said:
Heh...seems that VGA is starting to be looking better than HDTV. *kissing my VGA cables*
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Depends on model but some HDTV have VGA input.

It does better than component cable for PC monitor and both of them are same.
 
since I set my display on 1280x1024 on the 19' VGA monitor of mine...I've noticed the major difference on orginal xbox games on between SDTV and HD VGA so of course, we all know that most Xbox games support 480p and yeah I know...pretty much last generation but still looks good on SDTV anyway since most SDTVs do support either 480p or 480i and I noticed the major difference when playing Halo 2 on my VGA montior and eh...it doesnt look that good when its set on 1280x1024 thru HD VGA so I would have to set it to exactly 800x600 (480p) to make it look just right...same with Ninja Gaiden and it doesnt look that good when its set like that too so...Most Xbox games look rather better on SDTV or set it on 480p thru VGA.

(p.s. 1280x768 looks just the same as 1280x1024 also...weird eh?)
 
Pacman said:
Ask DefMATRIXense, After update is done then all games are support 1080p.

Only 720p and 1080i is old, it was from last year since Xbox 360 don't support 1080p until Oct 2006.

Anyone said component cable support 1080p is BS because only HDMI/DVI support about up to 1080p.
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You have no idea about HDTV yet. When you get one and you will understand more about it. You dont even own one yet.

It is LOT of explainations for this. Why don't you get one and experiment. Xbox 360 update for 1080p for 1080p television. Right now, hdtv with 1080p is very expensive. I tested on mine for 1080p for 1080p TV. It does not work on VGA. I put vga and it cut some screen off. Did not like it. Went back to component, and it shows full screen.

VGA is great for computer monitor! Not on HDTV.

You ask Defmatrixense again. He did ask me that he can not get his 1080p on his monitor. It does not support. Only 1080i.

VGA update for 1080p is not accurately perfect. It still needs to fix.
 
I noticed it too, when I popped in Halo a few days ago. It was sharp looking, not like I remeber, and I did play a lot of Halo back in the day. I figure it was the HD tv and that I was using component cables.
I looked at the tv that EB Games has hooked up to the 360 for demo in-store. It is a LCD tv and EB uses simple component cables that came with the box, and the graphics are pretty, and IMO the best gaming tv is LCD. LCD just glows the colors onscreen.
 
Steel X said:
since I set my display on 1280x1024 on the 19' VGA monitor of mine...I've noticed the major difference on orginal xbox games on between SDTV and HD VGA so of course, we all know that most Xbox games support 480p and yeah I know...pretty much last generation but still looks good on SDTV anyway since most SDTVs do support either 480p or 480i and I noticed the major difference when playing Halo 2 on my VGA montior and eh...it doesnt look that good when its set on 1280x1024 thru HD VGA so I would have to set it to exactly 800x600 (480p) to make it look just right...same with Ninja Gaiden and it doesnt look that good when its set like that too so...Most Xbox games look rather better on SDTV or set it on 480p thru VGA.

(p.s. 1280x768 looks just the same as 1280x1024 also...weird eh?)
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Yeah, your is 1080i thru vga.

HD Resolutions via Component: 720p/1080i/1080p

HD Resolutions via HDMI: 720p/1080i/1080p/640x480/800x600/1024x768/1280x1024

HD Resolutions via VGA/RDB-HV: 640x480/800x600/1024x768/1280x1024/720p/1080i
 
Dr. Strangelove said:
I noticed it too, when I popped in Halo a few days ago. It was sharp looking, not like I remeber, and I did play a lot of Halo back in the day. I figure it was the HD tv and that I was using component cables.
I looked at the tv that EB Games has hooked up to the 360 for demo in-store. It is a LCD tv and EB uses simple component cables that came with the box, and the graphics are pretty, and IMO the best gaming tv is LCD. LCD just glows the colors onscreen.
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Yeah, LCD and HDTV are great for component inputs. Mine does support 720p and 1080i for component. HDMI for 1080p. I just hope that Xbox 360 going to make HDMI AV.
 
Maybe.

Sony is lucky to put in HDMI on the PS3 but that being said, I dont think that many ppl really cares much about HDMI on videogame systems but rather on hi-def movies players instead when it comes to HD-DVD or Blu-ray.
 
sjones4dad said:
You have no idea about HDTV yet. When you get one and you will understand more about it. You dont even own one yet.

It is LOT of explainations for this. Why don't you get one and experiment. Xbox 360 update for 1080p for 1080p television. Right now, hdtv with 1080p is very expensive. I tested on mine for 1080p for 1080p TV. It does not work on VGA. I put vga and it cut some screen off. Did not like it. Went back to component, and it shows full screen.

VGA is great for computer monitor! Not on HDTV.

You ask Defmatrixense again. He did ask me that he can not get his 1080p on his monitor. It does not support. Only 1080i.

VGA update for 1080p is not accurately perfect. It still needs to fix.
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I can confirm this. :cool: I agree with what you said. Pac-man instant messaged me during working, said that a new update that now supports 1080p for all 360 games. I was like impossible but I cant say until I have to find out for myself. Odd, according to Xbox forum, most people stated that all 360 games now support 1080p. I thought Hdmi or dvi can handle the capture of 1080p. Ms stated that VGA and component cables are now support 1080p. Not that I dont believe Ms because look at HD-DVD 360 box that only have one USB and the picture is so amaing and I dont know how did ms pulling this one.
 
DefMATRIXense said:
I can confirm this. :cool: I agree with what you said. Pac-man instant messaged me during working, said that a new update that now supports 1080p for all 360 games. I was like impossible but I cant say until I have to find out for myself. Odd, according to Xbox forum, most people stated that all 360 games now support 1080p. I thought Hdmi or dvi can handle the capture of 1080p. Ms stated that VGA and component cables are now support 1080p. Not that I dont believe Ms because look at HD-DVD 360 box that only have one USB and the picture is so amaing and I dont know how did ms pulling this one.
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because MS is God.
 
DefMATRIXense said:
I can confirm this. :cool: I agree with what you said. Pac-man instant messaged me during working, said that a new update that now supports 1080p for all 360 games. I was like impossible but I cant say until I have to find out for myself. Odd, according to Xbox forum, most people stated that all 360 games now support 1080p. I thought Hdmi or dvi can handle the capture of 1080p. Ms stated that VGA and component cables are now support 1080p. Not that I dont believe Ms because look at HD-DVD 360 box that only have one USB and the picture is so amaing and I dont know how did ms pulling this one.
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Yes, HD-DVD is really amazed to me! I clicked display and to find out which it supports 1080i. Glad you have HD-DVD! What movies did you get? Have you tried to click 1080p? and does it scramble? Did you get resoluation set up high 1920x1080 which is 1080p thru VGA.


I just bought one so far is Superman Returns. I have not play that movie yet.
 
sjones4dad said:
You have no idea about HDTV yet. When you get one and you will understand more about it. You dont even own one yet.

It is LOT of explainations for this. Why don't you get one and experiment. Xbox 360 update for 1080p for 1080p television. Right now, hdtv with 1080p is very expensive. I tested on mine for 1080p for 1080p TV. It does not work on VGA. I put vga and it cut some screen off. Did not like it. Went back to component, and it shows full screen.

VGA is great for computer monitor! Not on HDTV.

You ask Defmatrixense again. He did ask me that he can not get his 1080p on his monitor. It does not support. Only 1080i.

VGA update for 1080p is not accurately perfect. It still needs to fix.
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Don't blame on me, some members on Xbox forum said that and just bought up that all games are support 1080p after fall update, also they said that can get 1080p via component cable and VGA cable but hard to believe about component would support 1080p. I know that anyone want true 1080p then get PS3 because they have HDMI input. Other forum, member said that MS cannot release HDMI cable due chips in their machine but guess about Peter made some mistake for put chip in machine that can support 1080p.

I have monitor with VGA cable then I will set 1920 x 1080 and some members from other forum said they don't have problem with VGA cable.

Edit... I do own 2 HDTV (15" LCD and 30" LCD, both of them don't have VGA input).
 
Pacman said:
Don't blame on me, some members on Xbox forum said that and just bought up that all games are support 1080p after fall update, also they said that can get 1080p via component cable and VGA cable but hard to believe about component would support 1080p. I know that anyone want true 1080p then get PS3 because they have HDMI input. Other forum, member said that MS cannot release HDMI cable due chips in their machine but guess about Peter made some mistake for put chip in machine that can support 1080p.

I have monitor with VGA cable then I will set 1920 x 1080 and some members from other forum said they don't have problem with VGA cable.

Edit... I do own 2 HDTV (15" LCD and 30" LCD).
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Do you have hdtv tuner for your two hdtv? Try that. You will be amazed to have 720p and 1080i. Do you have HD channels thru comcast, directv or dishnetwork? You think 720p and 1080i is old. You figure it out yourself. It is nothing to do with old or new.


You believe in forums. I don't. Forums is discussion just like alldeaf forum. There are always disagreement in forums.
 
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