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Sorry for the delay Grummer, I've been trying to keep busy by pretty much not hanging around alone in my home. Yah, it just seems like a hard blow because...well, frankly I haven't gotten too many dates lately. So the the start and process was such a high rush and the end was the exact...

I decided to log on to read any updates as I eat my breakfast before heading to work. I felt the necessity to quickly respond for now, will follow up with more detail later... I woke up this morning feeling like crap and face palmed myself like "oh my f....I totally lost that game" Grummer...

Grummer- Man you described exactly how I feel, it really is a "sickening feeling", it's like you suddenly got cursed 'you're in control, you're a Man, but you're not shouting about it, women seem to crave it" --> Well said my friend. So for sort of shy ppl like us, instead of the extoroverted...

Hey Everyone, That's for the interesting advice from all! So basically, after several times going out with her...I just got friendzoned and I don't know where I went wrong. ::tears: Did I start holding hands too late? Did I kiss her too late? I don't know. I was waiting for subtle...

Deafbadger- Those are some pretty good points to think about, thank-you! Rockin'robin- I very much agree with you, there are no "perfect" mates. I find your friend's intuition experience quite interesting! LoveBlue- That was beautifully written, sounds like something out of a movie...very...

Hey Everyone! I've recently started to really trust my intuition, especially during dating. However there's something that keeps bothering me that I can't figure out! I am not sure how to separate if the feelings are: i) my intuition or ii) what I actually want? Suppose...

Thank-you for your perspective sallylou...I have been anticipating your response.

Yes, it's unfortunate, but the handful of bad apples screw up the guys who do mean well....eventually since we don't want to go through the same hurt again, we keep a distance but unfortunately then we might miss someone who also means well....

Thanks buddy...absoultely, it could be a lot worst, just trying to enjoy the single life for a bit and will see what comes.

My brother...well, I'm not happy that you're going through a rough time but I'm glad we can relate on parallel grounds... no kidding eh? those doubts eat me away and drive me nuts....

I absoultely agree with you...but I've noticed that there's a decent number of dignified and intelligent ladies on this forum...I wonder if anyone of them could be kind enough to help us straight forward minded males figure this out...

Ouch!! Yeah, that's me alright, in cartoon edition :S I still don't get why a lot of women do this...

Forgot that one...simple but a golden proverb.

I agree dragonman. When I last met her she still wanted to be friends with me...how could I??? Like really, you already used me like that and now you want to keep the door open to possibly use me again in the future? Yes, that would be fools game. The trust and honesty I once had for her can...

Very well said Radioman. It's true, these experiences do have an effect on shaping the person's perspectives...and yes, time will eventually iron this one out.

It's a tough one Darek. I guess I can only answer #2 for you. It must be really confusing and frustrating at the same time. Most girls are not so straight forward which gives us guys a lot of deciphering and analyzing to do. The fact that she is going through this experience...her thoughts...

MidnightSun....I don't know what to say, I really don't. You are a gem and a gift to us all...I appreciate your advice so much. If this site gave out some sort of awards or something, you would definitely be a recipient. Your compassion and wisdom leave me struck with wonder...

Thanks radioman, I'm glad you responded as it seems you can relate. I cannot focus on anything, I feel absolutely miserable, its overwhelming. This is the worst, I had mutual break ups, break ups on either end....those did not have that much of an effect because we saw that there were problems...

So we had a talk and I learned a lot....when we first met, she was currently on a break with her other man. He was not too great in returning his emotions to her so she found that in me. Eventually things improved with her and Adam and she wants him...and she wants to go back to him...

That's a really good point you made, thank you. I will certainly keep that in mind.