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So that means you already expected that your daughter might die? Nice. Sounds like a long haul of dreadful thought about your daughter.

Right because when you said "more than deaf" to me sounds like you are trying to cover the identity. And I make sure that I EMPATHIZE the deafness not because I assume you wouldnt know. So Yes I understand your sarcasizm and defensive. For the rest of your life you will have to say: She is...

My conclusion: I am deaf/hoh. Your conclusion? Sarcasm and ignorance. Definition of more than deaf: Perfect hearing. Because you found out your daughter is deaf when she was born. So you got involve with learning about sign language, CI and AD site. ALSO you put up a blog site about...

There are many reason why ASL deaf people do poorly in English: 1. Lack of education in most of ASL environment schools in the nation. 2. State school enroll delayed developed kids with and without CI at later age: most people in my area refer state school as "dumping ground" (Because those...

I am sure its about three things: CI, person and her parents. Her parents MUST focus on the oral methods for her daughter, so it become a problem that she missed parts education, important concepts, and whatever Jillio said in the post. Jillio just about said everything that is true about deaf...

Also check this out: In the intrduction of this website, Cochlear implant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The introduction of cochlear implants has seen the renewal of a century-old debate about models of deafness that often has the hearing parents of deaf children on one side and the...

Jillio, I want to pick your brain on ENGLISH grammars. lol, Well said. beetarehoh

Look under Ethical Issue in this site: Cochlear implant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Parents with CI children maybe will have better understanding of why some deaf people argues about CI. Cloggy, your daughter IS deaf. If she is more than deaf, then you wouldnt be here posting...

Well said! I am wondering how many CI user is getting this same experience? I sure hope most of them do! Now back to Drew's Dad point: He said making decision for a child to have implant is the best solution to learn speech and English language skill at earlier stage. Do you agree? Most...

Thanks for letting me know about the blog. I just glanced it and boy there is a lot reading to do! I am pretty busy with my own kids. LOL However I will read as much as I can. You asked: "Still, in what way would she not be OK?" Boy this will be a long one. My general thoughts: Pay...

Ok, I guess I wont ask about your daughter anymore, just trying to understand your perspective about your child. Let's also not lose sight of the fact that you made a statement that you do not believe that there are any fluent ci users and now you have given a meaning to fluency that I do not...

Cloggy, Didnt I tell you thats its great that your daughter learns sign and verbal? I am trying to have a temperament conversation because I like to express my feelings with my questions and views. If you and Neecy gets really anxioty (sp)about this and express with your angers then nothing...

How come you are asking me questions about hearing children? This is going off the topic. We are specificly talking about CI users. Not hearing children. And YOU dont need to explain for the CI users. Let them explain to us. This is where people miss the concept, feelings from CI users...

This is interesting, I didnt know that Cloggy's daughter knows sign. I cant READ all the post and probably shel90 couldnt either. But again, I am talking about, who CI users dont know SIGN, can very well communicate in the hearing group. This means that Cloggy's daughter can not be counted to...

Shel90, Just out of curiosity, how old is this woman who used the CI for 5 years? Thanks beetarehoh

I sure hope I can meet someone like her too! I may be convinced, but not now I am. I like to see how well she does in classrooms and socializing too! Did you study her experience with social? Is she popular? Can she talk fluently with PEERS in social setting? If she can thats wonderful...

How do you know? Are you CI user too? I am speaking for somebody who is already a CI user, OLD and YOUNG. I like for CI user to respond to this post because they are the people who REALLY experience the sounds, not the parent. And I am open to critizism, thats how I learn! Smile.

I was afraid this will pop up because of confidentiallity. The deaf school is ASL learning environment. The father has nothing to do with the school except he works for transportation department. He disagrees to place his child in deaf school because of speech delay. I dont need to say...

Drew's Dad, Old or not, there are adults using current CI's and should recieve the sound the same as your son. Difference may be speech delay because young can learn quicker. Sounds should be the same and he/she(old) may be delayed to recnognized it. When the adults get use to CI(which...

R2D2 Thanks for explaining about CI and hearing aides, that clarifies for me. I ll never know what kind of sounds the CI does. I definitly not qualify for it. I am fortunate because I had terrible experienced with oral until when I was 16 years old I learned ASL. I will not let my...