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I'm going to have to agree with Aleser, although I don't think it's necessary to get that angry. Simply answering the question is enough, and it's an easy enough answer that I don't think anyone needs to get upset about it. The vaccines that are given to infants and children are given...

So still in the closet, eh? :laugh2:

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:laugh2: Well I was going to come up with my own good example of why you're wrong, but you did it for me. Tell the bolded one to my parents. :giggle: You don't automatically prevent the "secondary" consequence if it can happen without the "primary" consequence. (Or in the condom case, if it...

I clearly said that the one time I mentioned the word "cure" was a sarcastic comment and that I am discussing the idea of "prevention". You still didn't address my point, "I know they're not saying they can "cure" cancer, but they are making it sound like they can stop it from occurring, which...

Because you're not choosing to prevent cervical cancer. You're choosing to be immunized against four strains of HPV. And the latter does not necessarily imply the former. This shouldn't be that hard to understand.

Now you're the one arguing "semantics". My point is that their ad campaign is manipulative. All of my statements have been about preventing cervical cancer, except for the one sarcastic one that Babyblue responded to. I have said many times that claiming they can prevent cervical cancer is...

You seemed to consider yourself an expert at "manipulation" in our other discussion, so I really shouldn't need to explain how, "I'm choosing to be one less woman with cervical cancer thanks to the Gardasil vaccine" is a manipulative statement.

First of all, the topic at hand is their manipulative distribution of information. Secondly, I already presented data showing that cancer does result without the precondition of HPV. They do not know of a clear mechanism between HPV and cancer. Without understanding the actual process and all...

How is that silly? I was asked where I got the idea that they were advertising a "cure for cervical cancer", and presented a direct quote from their own ad campaign that showed where. What I think is that you are just once again being defensive and disagreeable without any real counter-argument...

We've been over this point already. You're still not addressing the topic at hand. If a flier against Gardasil took the same liberties, you would be attacking them so fast their head would spin. It is hypocritical of you not to consider their information to be manipulative just because you...

Their marketing campaign: "I'm going to be one less woman with cervical cancer!" Does that sound like, "I'm going to be one less woman with 4 strains of HPV, which might possibly protect me from some forms of cancer and genital warts!" to anyone? (Another small reason their ads bother me...

Let's compare: I think you're simplifying what "semantics" actually is. Here's an example: "The study of semantics includes the study of how meaning is constructed, interpreted, clarified, obscured, illustrated, simplified, negotiated, contradicted and paraphrased." So yes, it is...

I can't sleep with a clock ticking, drives me crazy. I also have a hamster who I put in the closet at night since his wheel makes noise. ;) (I also like to have a fan running at night).

And this is why I don't like their marketing. Here are a few quotes directly from the flier provided before. "There is no treatment for HPV infection, but the conditions it causes can be treated." "HPV vaccine can prevent most genital warts and most cases of cervical cancer." Combine that...

Yeah, I've heard that told as a riddle before, where you ask people why he takes the elevator all the way down every day, but only halfway up. I always give as a clue that he takes it all the way up to his apartment on days that it's raining (because he uses the umbrella to push the button). :lol:

No, once you file a patent on something, you have 20 years during which nobody else can make or sell that drug. So when they came up with the idea for Gardasil, they had to patent it to keep their rights to it. But from that time, the 20 years is counting down, so while they're getting it...