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But with the CI there is no lack. so technically , the term deaf can not apply in that specific situation.

No one is arguing that .. The question is while she is wearing the CI , does she fit the 'general' definition of deaf if ( for lack of a better term ) her performance is high enough with the CI that the 'general public' could not tell. The example is being able to follow /understand spoken...

While you jest .. I am sure that if they ever get a CI that is even close to 'perfected' someone with 'normal' hearing will get one as an elective. They already sell hearing aids as 'hunting' tools Walker's Game Ear

Why does that make a difference ? The performance is the same. Technically there is no actual difference. There is no "lack" either partial or complete in that situation. How does she fit the dictionary definition of deaf in that situation. Again , I am not asking about culturally...

So then the child that wears a pair of CI's but can understand spoken words at a 'normal' conversational level while her back is turned should not be considered deaf ? Or does the fact that there is a CI involved/required mean 'deaf' ?? Is 'deaf' performance based ? or person based. My...

Bottesini you have not answered the question I posed to you. I really would like to hear/read your point of view.

I never said it was recomended .. She said something about 'while sleeping' which I asked for clarification .. That is all.

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Ok .. how about this .. where would you draw the line between deaf and not deaf ? I doubt you would consider someone with a 10 db loss @ 8khz deaf .. Even though in some situations that can be considered a partial lack of hearing. is it 20 ?? 50 ?? 75 ?? 100 ?? Because pure tone does...

I am not .. but she is not lacking with the CI's .. her hearing works properly for that situation. Or do you not define "ability to hear/understand spoken words while her back is turned" as working properly ?

Are you saying that a "normal hearing" person is deaf when they are sleeping ?? Or that she does not wear her ci's while sleeping ? I would concede ( for lack of a better term ) that without the CI's the term deaf would be the most accurate ( if of course she has none or minimal residual...

How do you figure ?? the word is "lacking" Definition of LACK intransitive verb 1 : to be deficient or missing <time is lacking for a full explanation> 2 : to be short or have need of something <he will not lack for advisers> transitive verb : to stand in need of : suffer from the...

This goes back to where exactly the line between deaf and not deaf is. the dictionary says: 1. Partially or completely lacking in the sense of hearing. The phrase 'hard of hearing' would better fit then simply 'deaf' .. With your longer phrase being the most accurate of any of them...

Just that .. profound hearing loss .. if they want to refer to themselves as deaf .. then that is there choice. As has been posted in other posts , the dictionary has a definition. And that definition is how the word is understood to people. If you choose to refer to someone as deaf , understand...

That is exactly the point .. your setting are set to not permit PM's .. Which is why I was unable to send to you .. Not because of a 50 post minimum count .. Perhaps that was the case when you first joined .. But it not the case now. That is all I was trying to tell you. I have been able to...

And it is still there .. even after 50 .. But anyway ..

this is what I see when I click "send pm" to you .. Yet I am able to send pm;s to others .. AllDeaf Message Bottesini has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her. If you are trying to...

Where have you show that it is wrong .. you posted it yourself .. and no .. you are wrong .. there is no 50 post minimum .. adjust your settings to allow PM's and ill show you ..

Good source .. As you can see , the first one is just that .. lacking the sense of hearing. I guess we can now argue where exactly the line between deaf and not deaf is.

That would be deaf. As I pointed out before , this part of the discussion started not about 'profound' but about a CI implant wearer being able to hear and understand speech while there back was turned .. To me , and as defined by Webster , that person ( at that point in time ) is not deaf.