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    Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

    ... way to repeat what we know? Yes, it was, and it derailed- like 99% of abortion threads on the internet. Abortion is a highly charged topic that brings up everything from race, class, disability, sexual rights, etc when its discussed.
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    Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

    Since when does a discussion vaguely related to abortion -not- derail? :lol: Just how things are.
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    Given that we know that prenatal testing can sometimes diagnose fetal illnesses, how can you possibly think it isn't your responsibility that you chose not to get testing that very well could have shed light on problems despite doctors and society saying it should be done? It was your choice...
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    1: Theoretically, a child doesn't HAVE to eat. They could receive TPN. :P 2: Nudists exist in many cultures and in many parts of the world. 3: No, a child does not have to be in school. Homeschooling and unschooling exist, dear. The point is that many variables make up who your child will...
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    You are an outsider, though. You have never actually -been deaf-. CODAs can be a part of Deaf culture, but they have neither had the experience of being deaf, nor of raising a child while deaf, etc.
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    But you don't have to get what you get. You chose to get what you got by choosing to be ignorant of your child's future. That is not a choice anyone else -has- to make. It is not an actual truth, that is merely what you subscribe to. Personally, I think its insane to be so caught up in...
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    Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

    I'm not just good for my charming looks, alright? :lol:
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    I'm all for PGD and/or prenatal dx in the case of serious abnormalities. Frankly, I think parents are all sorts of fcked up if they just "take a chance" with having a kid with Tay Sachs or something really horrible despite knowing they're at risk, or refuse prenatal testing that can reveal other...
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    Its thin to you. To me, "I choose not to have any baby right now" and "I choose not to have this baby as an act of eradicating this minority from existence" are two extremely different statements. Do I believe abortion should be legal for eugenic purposes? Absolutely. Do I...
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    Choosing not to have a baby for any number of personal reasons is one thing. Choosing to abort a previously wanted pregnancy because the child is a member of a minority is eugenics. There's a difference. Some people believe both are acceptable, but some people believe that there's a line to...
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    If you believe that choosing to have a deaf child is cruel, why do you not agree with choosing to have a hearing child? After all, that's a guarantee you wont have a child who might need to -learn how to write with a pen and paper- :roll: I'm not saying that I agree with preimplantation genetic...
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    By that line of thinking, why don't black parents in a white-majority country entrenched in white privilege (like the US, where I live) choose to have white babies? It shouldn't matter that the baby doesn't look like them, right, because they're just picking what is likely to be the easiest...
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    Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

    *grin*. Bet I can dig up one patient, somewhere.
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    Pre-natal testing for desirable babies

    People want reflections of themselves. A lot of things could have led to you not existing. If you spend too much time considering them, your head may esplode.
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    Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

    Somehow, I think you missed the point.
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    Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

    You can contract HIV from anyone who has HIV. It does not matter if they contracted HIV 2 months ago and have a viral load of three and most decidedly do not have AIDS, or if they've been living with AIDS for a decade. You cannot contract AIDS no matter who you have sex with or what activity...
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    Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

    I am merely demonstrating my frustration with people who know -very little about sex- aside from where to stick it, trying to impose their moral code surrounding sex on other people. Call it something of a sport.
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    Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

    gram·mar noun /ˈgramər/ The whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and semantics gram·mar noun /ˈgramər/ A set of actual or presumed prescriptive...
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    If you could have a day with anyone from the past.....

    Ayn Rand. Her books made me the dirty capitalist I am.
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    Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

    That's the point I was waiting for you to get to. Several people responding to this post do not understand the fundamental difference between HIV and AIDS, but presume the right to lecture other people on sexual behavior and its risks. When you have to google AIDS to figure out what it is...
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