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Oh yeah, I remember this too... http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political-news/92455-voters-will-blame-gop-if-default-2.html#post1875859 If we're going to be against violent rhetoric, can't we be against violent rhetoric all the time?

Something about this jogged my memory... http://www.alldeaf.com/war-political-news/92455-voters-will-blame-gop-if-default-2.html#post1875862

Sorry, almost forgot I had posted in this thread. Finding a clean viable alternative to oil would be great and there's already plenty of effort to do that, but our problem isn't that we're not serious enough about it. Our problem is that we're constrained by physics, technology, and...

Here we go again. Perhaps this won't be an open and shut case. Second experiment indicates faster-than-light particles - The Washington Post

And you may be right. We can differ on the details, but just about any system is better than the convoluted mess we have right now that just begs for crony capitalism.

I want it done with less federal spending. Individuals can't unspend the government's money.

Sure it does. A reporter with an iPad with the treasury department's donation page asked these guys to donate to the treasury. They refused. Here's the link: Patriotic Millionaires | Higher Taxes | Treasury Department Donation | The Daily Caller I went ahead and transcribed the first...

That's a strawman. I argued these "patriotic millionaires" should lead by example. If I were rich and wanted to argue that tax rates on the rich were too low and we weren't paying our fair share, I would donate whatever amount I was arguing I should be taxed. That would show that I take my...

$70 billion according to static analysis, which always overestimates because it assumes people won't change their economic behavior or move assets to tax shelters. But let's say it's $70 billion. That's about 0.5% of GDP. You may see it as a step in the right direction, but it seems to me...

Who says they can't voluntarily pay their fair share every year? You would think, per their rhetoric, they'd be more than willing. And it's simply untrue that the lowest income brackets pay the most in income tax. The bottom 50% pay about 3% of the income taxes while earning around 10% of...

They're demanding they pay their "fair share" but refusing to do so voluntarily. If they're concerned with fairness, they should lead by example rather than continuing to indulge in the unfairness. How about my question? If they get the policies they're demanding, would you be satisfied...

Yeah, I guess ten or twelve men demanding to "tax me more" while exposing themselves to charges of hypocrisy is much more effective. :roll: Just curious though, if they get what they want, it'll raise about $70 billion a year, according to static analyses. If that happens, will you be...

That oil is going to be drilled and sent somewhere. If not to the US, probably to China. That will involve a pipeline out west rather than down south and shipping across the Pacific. Is that really any safer for the environment? Also, we in the US will get oil from somewhere. If it...

I'd have a lot more respect for these guys if they would decide that as a condition of joining their Patriotic Millionaires group, members would have to donate x percent of their income to the treasury so their effective tax rate is what they're demanding the law should be. Otherwise, their...

Suggestion #1- Show me where I'm wrong. Nothing in that article suggests I am wrong. Perhaps I missed something? Suggestion #2- If suggestion #1 is impossible, just acknowledge that Michael Moore is in the 1%.

The dude who's suing for $2.7 million on top of the $20 million or so he already made on just one film? That's not the 1%? By the way, to own .01% of America's wealth, you'd have to own about $5 billion. If that's the qualification for being in the 1%, fewer than 100 people qualify.

Um, no.

According to Politico back in June, he had played 71 rounds. Barack Obama's private golf club - Glenn Thrush - POLITICO.com I frankly don't care. If it helps him blow off steam so he can make it one more day without pushing the red button (Obama Makes It Through Another Day Of Resisting...

To misunderstand the first time around is fine, but to continue harping on it after the real meaning is pointed out to you... not so much... I'll let you off with a light flick to the wrist. *flick* ;)

I get that and never said otherwise. However, when you say things like "Pigs? Dogs? No wonder the Left has such dislike for the the Right", it kind of flies against all the "don't blame the whole for the actions of a few" rhetoric. Perhaps you were arguing that these words are just an example...