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Actually oral communication should come before writing. You can find evidence in animal groups. Most of them have their own language even though its not as complex as human languages. They still can communicate in limited sense using their own language. There are many researches on understanding...

When you go to a war for example, you dont only kill "bad" guys. Lets say you attacked another country and killed ten thousand people. You actually do not have ten thousand enemies there. Some of those people die by mistake, some of them just try defending themselves and were not an enemy to you...

I have got two things to say: First: Hello RetailHell :welcome: Second: I dont know how come when batteries are included, Barney is not the first one posting here. :hmm: Cheers RetailHell :) Hermes -

See Nathan, you were happier before you knew the rules about plagiarism. Ignorance was a bliss to you :lol: Cheers :) Hermes

Ok I understand what you are saying. "Choosing the less risky way would serve for the good of majority". If this becomes the agreed method (in real life) then perhaps some kids who could have benefited from oral approach more will lose this edge , but you will ensure majority of kids are getting...

What you say is the importance of ASL we are talking about, so if majority of people dont understand it , your point will go lost , right? I would like to think things said in this thread has something to do with making people understand it better. How you expect any change if nobody understands...

Shel and Jillio, so are you saying, because ASL is easily dismissed in todays society and educational system, first the importance of it should be made well understood. And once its established, a chance of learning English as their native language (and being raised oral) can be given to some...

Since majority of hearing people are already stayed out in great part of this thread, there is only Jillio who made the most contribution as a hearing person . But then she brought some good information too.. I believe you do not mean this thread but saying hearing people should stay out in...

Yes Daredevel, but the thread also went to a direction questioning which one should be kids native language in general. I believe its still a valid and related question and after so many things being said in this thread , I am wondering if anything came out of it , in terms of answering these...

Yes Jillio, but you also are an individual example, a good example , but we couldn't move every family and deaf kid as you mentioned. Also catering high quality services and education to every deaf kid is also difficult , because after a point this goes beyond being about deaf education and...

Yes they are created by the diversity of human beings, and they also create the diversity among human. I noticed something, its my own observation. There are people, both got assistance from top notch ASL instructors and speech therapists , and it seems like they are doing better than people who...

Nathan, first couple examples you gave are not about ignorance, its about being in denial. They seem different to me. Now there are cases ignorance definitely can not be a bliss . In today's world people need knowledge to function in certain areas of daily life. For example if you decide to...

Yes loml, this adds another dimension to whats being discussed. I asked a similar question before but didnt get a satisfactory answer. What if you choose ASL and can not cater the right environment afterwards. Same applies to oral, what if you go that direction but end up with wrong therapists...

:topic: You can ask moderators to delete all posts prior to yours and rescue the thread. If freckles ask, mods have got no choice but obey :lol: -

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If you really see the subject worthy of discussing , and the thread was locked by the thread owners request, you can always start your own thread Brad.. So its not really a big deal. -

It depends on the board though. Have you ever played Eve Online? Go to their webforum and say "Hello I am a new player" , ten minutes later ten different people will be on you. They will curse on you, make fun of you and try to scam you. But the thing is, thats the nature of the game. Forum is...

I want to be on the money too please. Fifty or One Hundred Dollars bills are fine with me. I can send couple of different portrait pictures if needed. :giggle: -