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  1. Teresh

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    The difference is how we interpret Scripture... The difference is not the text itself, but the meanings and answers that we derive from it. If you read different commentaries on the text, you'll hear all sorts of different ideas presented, many of which are mutually exclusive. That's not to...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    That's what normally happens and I have no problem with that. I have a problem with "Messianism" trying to create a pseudo-Judaism that is thoroughly Christian in precepts beliefs but tries to emulate Jewish practice in order to deceive people into thinking that it is Judaism. The situation...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    No, because I belief action is more important than belief. Missionaries convert people. You can hide behind "But Jesus said so!" if you want to, and that's fine, but you should not deny that converting people is indeed the missionaries' objective. Stop making excuses for not citing...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    Um, the missionaries do. No, I do understand who God is, my concept is just different from yours. Citations? In the Christian interpretation, yes, but the Christian interpretation did not appear until Christianity did. It simply did not exist prior to that time. Judaism is a...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    Egotistical? No, I'm not out to convert people. Am I more learned than you are on this subject? Absolutely. But you're just as egotistical as the Jews that you hate, apparently. You claim that the Jews are egocentrical for prefering their way and then turn around and demand people follow...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    And Christian nonsense like your posting is part of Christianity's behaviours. Let's cut out the nonsense name-calling, no?
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    You don't know anything about the prophets. That is a fact whether or not you want to accept it. If you're going to take Judaism and completely misinterpret all of its beliefs and ideas in order to justify a wildly different faith, then no, you do not understand Judaism or its religious texts...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    Correct. No, that is why Christians are waiting for the end of the world, so that the Messianic prophecies that Jesus did not fulfill will be fulfilled the second time Jesus is incarnated. Jews reject this idea as nonsense on the grounds that the Messiah would not need two attempts to...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    Jesus was not the Messiah as the People of Israel has not been reunited, the Temple has not been rebuilt, world peace is just a far-off dream and until very recently (long after Jesus died) the Jews were not sovereign over their land. Funny, but the Jews have always, since the very beginning...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    Do Jews in general believe Jesus existed at one point, that is, lived and died? Sure. Do Jews in general believe that Jesus is/was God? No, as that's idolatry. Mohammed wasn't the Messiah... Even in Islam, he is not regarded as such. He is regarded in Islam as Prophet (the last Prophet) who...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    No, it is precisely because I am active in the Jewish community that I do defend Islam... I doubt you'll ever grasp that subject, though, because you have a profound failing at understanding Judaism and are not sufficiently versed in Islam's beliefs. I'm defending a point of view, not...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    Judaism and Islam are not inherently contradictory on theological issues. The concept of God in Islam is the same as the concept of God in Judaism. I can sanely defend both as the two are not implicitly different. You might be interested in knowing that Hillel (at RIT) has asked the Muslim...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    I read Jewish books. I'm somewhat active in the Jewish community on campus. I learn about Judaism from a legitimate source (Jews) rather than the heresay of Christians. No. I haven't forgotten this. You've simply ignored the way it's used in my writing. You also neglect to acknowledge...
  14. Teresh

    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    They know what my opinions are already. As of yet, they haven't seen a problem with them as I don't force my opinions on other people. You don't know what I personally believe in or what my opinions are because I'm simply playing your game of meaningless and hateful proselytizing. I have no...
  15. Teresh

    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    Then you obviously haven't been reading my posts thoroughly. I have not contradicted myself even once. My argument yet remains the same simple logic it was in my first post on the subject. "Get it"? Funny, but I might be inclined to say the same about you. Millions of people have been...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    The first generation believed in God. Lack of faith is not why they died. They died because they had the slave mentality. They believed that life was so much better in Egypt because they had more variety of food and because while they had to work hard and while they were oppressed, their...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    Moses and Aaron, rather... Joshua came later. Because Israel was the Promised Land. God didn't make two Promised Lands for the Israelites. God only made one. If that one were Israel, it was to the exclusion of all other possible lands.
  18. Teresh

    Do you believe in Psychic?

    I think humans can (and at times do) have supernatural experiences... But most "psychics" (like "faith healers" and another people who claim to have some kind of special God-given power) are just compulsive liars.
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    Um, no. There was more than a 400 year span of time between the death of Joseph and the birth of Moses. ...And I feel the need to clarify. Joseph did not have his own Tribe, though his sons, Ephraim and Manessah, did. They were blessed along with Israel's sons. Joseph did not receive this...
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    Do Jews believe in Jesus and still be Jewish?

    No, you're called Christians. A Jew or not, you are a follower of Jesus "the Christ" and are therefore a Christian. Your suggestion that "Messianic Judaism" is a form of Judaism (when it is clearly not by any rational analysis) is incorrect. Jesus wasn't a Christian. The term Christian...
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