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  1. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    Of course not! I would ask you why manslaughter or murder of a protected class is more punishable than that of a non protected class? If I was beaten on the street half to death, does it matter the motive? Whether it was for drug money, the color of my skin, or just for fun like a flash...
  2. DaveM

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    Oh, sorry deafskeptic. True, I tend to lean towards Rands marketplace solutions. And I do like her books very much. My favorite is Anthem.
  3. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    Equal justice means murder is murder. Theft is theft. Violence is violence. Not one single human being is more valuable than another, regardless of motive. I will gladly address your points if you point me to them. This thread has become very, very long!
  4. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    ALL Americans, and even you jillio :lol:
  5. DaveM

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    I'm not an objectivist, and I do see a role in government for roads, schools, bridges, and even social security and other safety nets. Government can never compete with the marketplace because the market will find a way to do it cheaper, better, and more efficient. Government has no...
  6. DaveM

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    "Us" being Americans.
  7. DaveM

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    That's very sad, Jillio. I try to remove myself from the emotional aspect of poverty and look at the cause. When you do that, it becomes strikingly clear.
  8. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    I'm a practical libertarian. I believe in free markets. I believe that the more the government tinkers with the marketplace, the less fair it becomes. I feel that there should be social safety nets. And laws protecting us. If you want more revenue to come into the government, you need...
  9. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    Lol! I wasn't trying to help them from a "ethnocentric" point of view. I worked in an African American owned, African American staffed drug rehabilitation out patient facility. In the poorest area of North Philadelphia.
  10. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    I've spent a large part of my life working in a North Philadelphia black community trying to help dually diagnosed drug addicts. I've watched year after year go by and the conditions continue to get worse. I've watched politicians in bed with the teachers union continue to produce schools...
  11. DaveM

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    Hmm, I do remember the Reagan and Bush I years. And I long for them again. Right now there are more people on food stamps then ever before, record high unemployment in the African American community, A national debt approaching 15 trillion dollars, etc.... BTW, I also long for the...
  12. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    #1 Yes I do wonder why poor communities continue to vote for politicians who have made things worse for them year after year. #2 C'mon, Repubs in State positions aren't killing them. Now you sound very biased.
  13. DaveM

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    Just for you, Jillio: Had Philly, Detroit, Camden, been run by Republicans, the outcomes would be the same! There is no incentive to change anything when there is no threat of being thrown of of office.
  14. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    It's not just the mayors, or local city government, or governors. I'm saying that the call for harsher sentences also came at the wishes from the community! People themselves were naturally afraid of the epidemic. But what happened in the crack case is what happens every time there's a...
  15. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    I'm sorry, I'm not avoiding the question, I'm trying to keep up with you all! I'm also not bashing liberals. But the fact remains that the poorest cities in America today have been run by Democrats for decades. Now If I were bashing libs, I would suggest that they are responsible for the...
  16. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    Mayors sign bills passed through the city legislators. Mayors also help influence Governors in what laws get passed at a State level.
  17. DaveM

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    Saywhatkid, when a single party has a stranglehold over everything and have been controlling the political machine for decades, it becomes a business. In this case it just happens to be Democrats... Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
  18. DaveM

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    Jiro, I agree with you on drug laws! That doesn't make sense. I'm a libertarian so I believe that non violent drug offenders do not belong in jail, crowding our prison systems, and wasting tax dollars. But the whole conspiracy about getting rid of low-class minorities is not true. For...
  19. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    I agree with you, Jillion. We shouldn't have had longer sentences for crack dealers/users in the first place. It happened because people were trying to pass legislation at the time that they thought would "protect" poor communities. Remember all the hype with the so called crack baby...
  20. DaveM

    A hate crime....

    No. It's just a fact that the poorest cities in America have elected only Democrats for decades. Philly hasn't had a Republican since 1952. Detroit, not since 1961. Camden, Newark, Baltimore, etc.... All the same. BTW, I'm not mocking Democrats. I'm simply pointing out that it was big...
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