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  1. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    I suppose we agree, Beowulf! There are a lot of smart liberals out there. If the left wants to put him out in front of their movement as a representative, I'm ok with that.
  2. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    If you're talking De Regulation, we're talking about glass steagal repealed by Clinton. But I don't blame Clinton or GS. I don't blame deregulation.
  3. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    Really? How does he change people's thinking? Remember that time he helped defeat Bush in 2004? Michael Moore helps my side the best, the more he speaks the more he becomes a self parody of himself. He fits into every negative stereotype that people have of liberals. I only wish he...
  4. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    Michael Moore is a 100% self mad millionaire and I have no problems with the way he made it. My one problem is the tax credit he received from MI taxpayers. He's rich enough and so is the studio that released the film. Taxpayers should not be funding it.
  5. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    Nope. Don't know him personally. But yup, he did it: Michael Moore, Michigan Film Incentive [Mackinac Center] Michael Moore to use film tax credit for community development project | Michigan Messenger Michael Moore Urged to Withdraw Film Subsidy Application [Michigan Capitol...
  6. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    Yes. That Freddy gave Newt 1.6 million. Yes. That Newt.
  7. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    With all due respect, they are not crystal clear. I've been down to Occupy Philly and between the Che Guevara flags, the signs for legalizing weed, the signs for the end of capitalism, the anarchists, the socialists, the labor unions, the drum circles, the signs for debt forgiveness, etc...
  8. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    I think I see where you're coming from, naisho. For me I watched congress create the mess that lead to the housing bubble, the market crash, Fanny and Freddy, the bailouts, etc... To blame wealthy individuals instead of Washington is very misguided to me.
  9. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    We've debated on here a lot, and I've told you I have many problems with Republicans. I guess anyone who doesn't share your worldview is just labeled so the world will be simpler for you?
  10. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    I thought 1% was the economic status, but can you blame me for being confused with the mish mash of silly ideas coming out of the silly #OWS collectivists?
  11. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    Jillio, read through this thread, I have said it right here! I don't begrudge Moore for his success. Taking a jab at his wealth and social status was meant as a lighthearted jab at a limousine liberal. I just didn't know that people felt so strongly about the man?!
  12. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    I can't believe that a post taking a light hearted jab at 1%er Michael Moore got 10 pages of defense from smart liberals here. The 1% is an economic status. That's all. Michael Moore is no different than a typical CEO who makes obscene amounts of money "off the backs of others." For...
  13. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    Well....Michael Moore demonizes capitalism and advocates a central planning type system. Moore wants more government in the marketplace. This is how we bankrupted ourselves and passed regulations that lead to cronyism. And don't get me started on his praise of Cuba! Just my opinion of...
  14. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    If politicians don't take our money to give to corporations for bailouts, subsidies, tax breaks, no bid contracts, and investments then corporations have to make money the way every business does - a voluntary exchange of your money for their product. It starts with Washington. Thanks for...
  15. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    He is a fat cat capitalist. And there's nothing wrong with that. He's selling a product that people want enough to voluntarily part with their money to buy. That's a good thing. Businesses who do the same become demonized for some reason. Even though they create jobs in the process of...
  16. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    Jiro, he didn't make millions from Halliburton stock. His millions come from lucrative book deals, speaking fees, movie successes, lawsuits(he sued the Weinsteins for 2.7 million) etc... I don't begrudge the man for success, he made it honestly. But it's just funny to me when I see him...
  17. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    Sorry naisho, I didn't see your question. Moore's 1999 IRS statement for his non profit shows he sold Halliburton stock at a 15% profit and reinvested in other large corporations. He had $280,000 in corporate stock and 100,000 in corporate bonds.
  18. DaveM

    Marvel at the beauty of Michael Moore's 10,000 sq ft summer mansion!

    Please see TXgolfer's post above me. If Moore profited from shares of Halliburton, as long as he kept his taxes in order it is 100% legal. Aside from the question of what he used the stock shares for, what about the ethical question of him investing in a so called "war wachine." This is...
  19. DaveM

    Are Drug Users Persecuted?

    I have found common ground with you. On this we can agree.
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