Gallaudet Graduate Student - Cochlear Implant Controversy Presentation

ambrosia said:
I'm not even republican darling and I'm only 38, I was 15 when that law passed, and hearing, are you mental? I probably had no idea it was even going on.

But you want to know what the stupidest thing is about even asking me that, in reference to what I said. I realize, and accept, that it's a disability. Shel, and others deny that it's a disability. Claim that's it's only a disability because society makes it one. Why don't they make the world so hearing doesn't matter??? That is so infantile I can't even.....just stahp.

Worse some want their cake and to eat it too. The ADA is very important, because it IS a disability, you need interpreters, closed captioning VR, accommodations for schooling, etc etc etc because without them you couldn't communicate with the rest of the world. The fact that accommodations are even needed illustrates it as a disability, defines it. Then you have people demanding these accommodations on one hand and then demanding that deafness not be thought if as a disability on the other. Society did not make anyone deaf. Congratulations you won the medical crap lottery okay, we are accommodated. Expecting the world to change to such a degree that hearing isn't needed for anything, or for the entire world to learn sign language, for you, is infantile. They have compromised, we have all these accommodations to help us. We have to do some compromising to, yes we have to adapt to the rest of the world. We all need to put on our big girl panties and deal with our reality not stamp our feet and demand and expect everyone else in the world make our lives easier.
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Why Are Glasses Perceived Differently Than Hearing Aids? - Rebecca J. Rosen - The Atlantic
Scholars and people who are activists for disability rights have spent a lot of energy in the last decades showing that disability is not about the state of a human body; it’s about the built environment, structures, and institutions that make life possible and meaningful—or conversely, impossible and meager—for certain kinds of bodies and minds. In other words, disability studies has worked to transition an understanding of disability from a “medical model” to a “social model.” A social model of disability opens up the discussion to consider how design and technologies might be re-imagined for all kinds of bodies, not “assigned” to those with medicalized conditions
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Seems the "design of human bodies" ishould now be questioning. Gee do we really need say arms. legs or hearing/speaking vision etc?

Unstated how in the future such can be no longer classfied as "disabled".

Presumably, from another thread= new arrivals from planet "X" might reconstruct humans.

Realistic in the near future?

Such seem possible?
 
kokonut said:
True, however, what Shel was getting at is that we shouldn't be looked upon as people with disabilities but people who simply need the right accomodation
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Isn't that the same with any 'disability'?
 
London said:
Isn't that the same with any 'disability'?
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Not quite.......Stuff like mental disabilty,autism, and mental illness can never be overcome by accomondations 100%.......Many disabilties CAN and do function at 100% with accomondations......like for example ramps and wheelchair lifts, and low installed things make an enviroment accessible for someone who's parapelegic level functioning.....they're not disabled/unable in that sort of enviroment.....Same with dhh....with things like terps,CART etc dhh can function 100%.....with things like Braille,etc blind/low vision folks can function 100%.....
But brain-related stuff IS very different....No matter what accomondations are given,or different settings they are placed in, people with brain related stuff will never be able to function 100% with accomondations....they CAN help......but say a kid who thinks that a teacher who is being friendly is her BFF and then ends up being accused of stalking them really can never function 100% with ANY accomondations......Another example is someone who's mentally disabled.....NO accomondations whatsoever are going to help a mentally disabled person function on par or like a person with a normal IQ.....
 
An ongoing debate in Sociology: the exact meaning of being "accommodated" VS what is a "disability" requiring "accommodation"?

Who "decides" what the exact parameters of being "mentally disabled"?

I Q- Test scores.Bell curve placement?
 
drphil said:
An ongoing debate in Sociology: the exact meaning of being "accommodated" VS what is a "disability" requiring "accommodation"?

Who "decides" what the exact parameters of being "mentally disabled"?

I Q- Test scores.Bell curve placement?
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why you keep throw these in when clearly its not related to the thread AND other members don't have a clue with it is...
if you were really making links, then indicate WHO writes such things and WHAT is dicussed IN THIS discourses, chances are you will expose yourself as a chartalan, in other words, You would be seen as a fool who do not know what you're talking about!!
 
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Frisky Feline said:
Surprise that this thread has not locked yet.
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You notice though, no battles like the good old days.

No real name calling or threats here.

The worst thing said, "you sir , are a charlatan."

Then after that one must slap the other with a glove, and then they duel.. :P
 
Bottesini;2257057[B said:
]You notice though, no battles like the good old days.[/B]
No real name calling or threats here.

The worst thing said, "you sir , are a charlatan."

Then after that one must slap the other with a glove, and then they duel.. :P
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Yes, they were some GREAT battles of the old days! :)
 
there is a difference in warning to be as exposed as one than actually defining them as one...its not name calling lol
 
no, don't lock I Like this thread...it's a bit heavy...though.....and misguided...in most parts.....
 
deafdyke said:
Not quite.......Stuff like mental disabilty,autism, and mental illness can never be overcome by accomondations 100%.......Many disabilties CAN and do function at 100% with accomondations......like for example ramps and wheelchair lifts, and low installed things make an enviroment accessible for someone who's parapelegic level functioning.....they're not disabled/unable in that sort of enviroment.....Same with dhh....with things like terps,CART etc dhh can function 100%.....with things like Braille,etc blind/low vision folks can function 100%.....
But brain-related stuff IS very different....No matter what accomondations are given,or different settings they are placed in, people with brain related stuff will never be able to function 100% with accomondations....they CAN help......but say a kid who thinks that a teacher who is being friendly is her BFF and then ends up being accused of stalking them really can never function 100% with ANY accomondations......Another example is someone who's mentally disabled.....NO accomondations whatsoever are going to help a mentally disabled person function on par or like a person with a normal IQ.....
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she got a point...accommodations are merely 'quick fixes' and it doesn't challenge society's perception of disability as social problem
 
According to the Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary, a disability is any kind of "physical or mental impairment" that prevents one from pursuing an occupational desire. That implies relativity; if one can easily go through his/her life without hearing, then it's hardly a disability. However, if one struggles due to his/her inability to hear, it becomes a disability. One person's disability can be another's blessing. It's subjective and often socially imposed.
 
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