Jailbreak for iOS 6

[TXgolfer]

That's business make change and you need look at flawed system that we have, but those topic isn't part of my thread.

Correct, it is a business making changes that affect all because some would not honor their contract.

I'm not interested to discuss about morality of jailbreaking

Then don't discuss it. This is a jailbreaking thread and my posts concern jailbreaking. You'll notice that my first post was to everyone. You chose to argue with me.

 

[Foxrac]

Correct, it is a business making changes that affect all because some would not honor their contract.

Well, that's not my problem and there are way to around.

Then don't discuss it. This is a jailbreaking thread and my posts concern jailbreaking. You'll notice that my first post was to everyone. You chose to argue with me.

then time for move on.

 

[Foxrac]

What jailbroken apps that you like?

I bet many apps won't support bigger version.

 

[naisho]

Foxrac, here is to help you understand difference between rooting vs jailbreaking. BTW, rooting android doesn't void warranty these days. Only custom bootloader does.

"Rooting" vs. "jailbreaking"
Gaining root access is sometimes compared to jailbreaking devices running the Apple iOS operating system. However, these are distinct concepts. In the tightly Apple-controlled iOS world, a user is restricted from (1) installing or booting into a modified or new operating system (a "locked bootloader" prevents this), (2) sideloading non-authorized applications onto the device. And the user is (3) not allowed root permissions. Bypassing all these restrictions together constitute the expansive term "jailbreaking" of Apple devices. It describes overcoming several types of restrictions and limitations to the user created by Apple.
By contrast, most Android devices do not have locked bootloaders, and the ability to sideload apps is common and usually permissible without root permissions. Thus, it is only the third aspect of iOS jailbreaking relating to superuser privileges that correlates to Android rooting.
Android rooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You may read additional to learn, it's helpful for future argument or debating:
"Rooting" Android Vs "Jailbreaking" an iPhone: What's The Difference? - AndroidPIT

On topic, I jailbreak often and I don't see anything wrong with it. Jailbroken tethering vs unjailbroken tethering is a different story, that's more about morals. Some default factory android handsets let you tether without needing to root and there's no problem with it.

 

[TXgolfer]

Foxrac, here is to help you understand difference between rooting vs jailbreaking. BTW, rooting android doesn't void warranty these days. Only custom bootloader does.


You may read additional to learn, it's helpful for future argument or debating:
"Rooting" Android Vs "Jailbreaking" an iPhone: What's The Difference? - AndroidPIT

On topic, I jailbreak often and I don't see anything wrong with it. Jailbroken tethering vs unjailbroken tethering is a different story, that's more about morals. Some default factory android handsets let you tether without needing to root and there's no problem with it.

My only problem with jailbreaking itself is if phones begin to become damaged and somehow the repair costs are passed on. As long as Apple continues to say "Sorry bub, you jail broke your phone so you are not covered" I am ok with it.

But, like you said, the tethering thing is a completely different story.

 

[Foxrac]

Foxrac, here is to help you understand difference between rooting vs jailbreaking. BTW, rooting android doesn't void warranty these days. Only custom bootloader does.


You may read additional to learn, it's helpful for future argument or debating:
"Rooting" Android Vs "Jailbreaking" an iPhone: What's The Difference? - AndroidPIT

On topic, I jailbreak often and I don't see anything wrong with it. Jailbroken tethering vs unjailbroken tethering is a different story, that's more about morals. Some default factory android handsets let you tether without needing to root and there's no problem with it.

Yes, Verizon doesn't block the tethering for Android phones that use official tethering app, but it does exist with iPhone - block the official tethering app for customers who don't subscribe. After Verizon changed the policy but the system with Apple hasn't updated.

Some people prefer third party tethering app because it has more control than first party tethering app, such as reduce the WiFi power to save battery life.

 

[Foxrac]

My only problem with jailbreaking itself is if phones begin to become damaged and somehow the repair costs are passed on. As long as Apple continues to say "Sorry bub, you jail broke your phone so you are not covered" I am ok with it.

But, like you said, the tethering thing is a completely different story.

The jailbreaking rarely damage the iPhone and it can be restored so easily with iTunes.

 

[TXgolfer]

The jailbreaking rarely damage the iPhone and it can be restored so easily with iTunes.

Totally irrelevant to what I said. Note the "if phones begin to become damaged" in my post.

 

[Foxrac]

Totally irrelevant to what I said. Note the "if phones begin to become damaged" in my post.

Well, if iPhone is damaged because of jailbreaking so Apple will not repair it under warranty, so you have to pay for repair or buy a new iPhone.

The warranty is pretty clear.

 

[naisho]

My only problem with jailbreaking itself is if phones begin to become damaged and somehow the repair costs are passed on. As long as Apple continues to say "Sorry bub, you jail broke your phone so you are not covered" I am ok with it.
But, like you said, the tethering thing is a completely different story.

If a iDevice is turned in jailbroken it is automatically going to be customer's fault. They have to foot the costs if it is known to be jailbroken. Unless they un-jailbreak it and turn it in for some minor damage, then that's shady and you can read it done across apple forums all the time. So your concerns are out there pretty much.

Jailbreaking poses risks that can damage the hardware on iPhones if used incorrectly or beyond threshhold. Like apps overheating the camera LED, battery, tweaking programming for signals and so on. Usually if one don't mess with the "unapproved Cydia apps" they are fine, however the risk is always there.

I see it like "the law" on the tethering issue. The law being Apple's intentions. Apple owns iOS, and they never intended people to jailbreak or unofficially tether for their apps. Whatever their reasons are for not allowing tethering unjailbroken. Since they don't allow it then it's obviously "illegal" in the sense it isn't what they intended to do on the device.

 

[Foxrac]

If a iDevice is turned in jailbroken it is automatically going to be customer's fault. They have to foot the costs if it is known to be jailbroken. Unless they un-jailbreak it and turn it in for some minor damage, then that's shady and you can read it done across apple forums all the time. So your concerns are out there pretty much.

Jailbreaking poses risks that can damage the hardware on iPhones if used incorrectly or beyond threshhold. Like apps overheating the camera LED, battery, tweaking programming for signals and so on. Usually if one don't mess with the "unapproved Cydia apps" they are fine, however the risk is always there.

I see it like "the law" on the tethering issue. The law being Apple's intentions. Apple owns iOS, and they never intended people to jailbreak or unofficially tether for their apps. Whatever their reasons are for not allowing tethering unjailbroken. Since they don't allow it then it's obviously "illegal" in the sense it isn't what they intended to do on the device.

That why I don't use jailbroken apps to change the hardware - too risky and one WiFi tethering doesn't include to overpower the WiFi because it could risk the damage to WiFi, but they only offer to underpower to save battery or heating.

 

[Calvin]

I don't recommend jailbreak or rooted for those who doesn't know what they're doing. It is on the user's own risk... I'm pretty sure many people change the phone system illegally. I think that the carrier, ie Verizon, At&t etc have a spying app in the phones to see what users is doing. If you do something wrong, the carrier will know. If you 'brick' the phone, you gotta pay to get new one and probably breach of contract if they find out you used jailbreak.

Sometimes it's not worth to jailbreak or root the phones. To each it's own and on own risk. I don't abuse the phone, only managed to get around 500mb a month due to being spent most of the time on wifi.

 

[Foxrac]

I don't recommend jailbreak or rooted for those who doesn't know what they're doing. It is on the user's own risk... I'm pretty sure many people change the phone system illegally. I think that the carrier, ie Verizon, At&t etc have a spying app in the phones to see what users is doing. If you do something wrong, the carrier will know. If you 'brick' the phone, you gotta pay to get new one and probably breach of contract if they find out you used jailbreak.

Sometimes it's not worth to jailbreak or root the phones. To each it's own and on own risk. I don't abuse the phone, only managed to get around 500mb a month due to being spent most of the time on wifi.

Yes, I included caution in my post about risk with jailbreaking.

I'm iPhone expert and the risk of jailbreaking isn't issue for me.

 

[TXgolfer]

If a iDevice is turned in jailbroken it is automatically going to be customer's fault. They have to foot the costs if it is known to be jailbroken. Unless they un-jailbreak it and turn it in for some minor damage, then that's shady and you can read it done across apple forums all the time. So your concerns are out there pretty much.

I have seen some of those forums. I guess that is why the phones are so expensive in the first place. I guess there is really not much Apple can do since resetting the phone would destroy the evidence. I find it strange that courts haven't given phone companies more protection and rights.

 

[Jiro]

I jailbreak my iPhone because well... my career background is in HCI (Human-Computer Interaction). The design must makes sense and it must be functional so my iPhone interface is customized to my liking for speedy efficiency and productivity.

I don't do tethering. I think it's silly. plus it's illegal. I dont' see any point in tethering since free WiFi is everywhere. jailbreaking is legal as long as you didn't get your phone after January 26th.

 

[Foxrac]

Problem: Lack of law to protect phone companies

Without law, the court isn't working.

 

[Jiro]

That doesn't change a thing. No one forced you to sign a contract with Verizon. The customer makes that choice when they sign their name. Again, Verizon kept their end of the deal by supplying a phone at a significant discount. Phones without a contract are available. There is no philosophy involved here. Signing a contract to get a discounted phone and then violating that contract by doing things to avoid charges is wrong.

significant discount? they make a huge profit from 2-years contracts. I think the average monthly payment for smartphone user is $60-70+ a month.

They rake in at least $1,500+ revenue for every smartphone contract signed.

the "discount" is more of a carrot dangling around in front of people. in other countries.... the phones are expensive but the service is cheap, I believe..... and much faster and better. it even works in subway!

 

[TXgolfer]

I don't recommend jailbreak or rooted for those who doesn't know what they're doing. It is on the user's own risk... I'm pretty sure many people change the phone system illegally. I think that the carrier, ie Verizon, At&t etc have a spying app in the phones to see what users is doing. If you do something wrong, the carrier will know. If you 'brick' the phone, you gotta pay to get new one and probably breach of contract if they find out you used jailbreak.

Sometimes it's not worth to jailbreak or root the phones. To each it's own and on own risk. I don't abuse the phone, only managed to get around 500mb a month due to being spent most of the time on wifi.

It would be nice if the provider had a way to at least tag phones that had been jail broken so that the warranty could be voided. Seems like that would be easy to do.

 

[Jiro]

I jailbreak it and I'm not impressed by it. How do I go back to original iOS?

you shouldn't have done it in the first place if you don't know how to do it... you're not impressed by it because you don't know how to use it.

 

[TXgolfer]

I jailbreak my iPhone because well... my career background is in HCI (Human-Computer Interaction). The design must makes sense and it must be functional so my iPhone interface is customized to my liking for speedy efficiency and productivity.

I don't do tethering. I think it's silly. plus it's illegal. I dont' see any point in tethering since free WiFi is everywhere. jailbreaking is legal as long as you didn't get your phone after January 26th.

See, and you strike me as the type that if your phone did permanently brick, you would man up and buy a new one. I have no problem with that at all.