Byrdie Situation UPDATE!

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Jiro said:
just like Nika aka malingerer
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There is lying and lying. Why bring Nika into this after he was driven off the forum. He may have had issues but he has been through a lot so far so please lay off Nika.

Nika NEVER faked his own death.
 
Mrs Bucket said:
dreama,

jillio explained everything to all of us. She is going through the same emotions as we all are. I was wrong to accuse jillio of such thing and I apologised to her in open forum.

I PMed jillio and I apologised to her again. I was not going to justify my action but apologise to her.

dreama, jillio is NOT involved in this in any way or sort.

She was working last night, there had been a thunderstorm & it cut off her electricity. She couldn't have any internet access until this AM. She is trying to deal with this as much as we are. All of us saw her posting explanations left and right so she doesn't need to justify herself again.

I am defending jillio as I think she's been unfairly dragged in the mud because of Byrdie and it is starting to bother me.
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Thank you. Jillio was NOT involved in the whole mess and its upsetting to see her continually being accused of being complicit.
 
dreama said:
I'm sorry but It really wouldn't surprise me if she WAS involved. It's just the timing that is a little bizare. Mrs Bucket has her doupts. People are trying to contact Jillo without any success then AFTER Mrs Bucket has her doupts then Jillo suddenly shows up again on the same page. It's a weird coincidence.

But you will say I'm biased as we don't get on. Jillo is on my ignore list too and she's going to stay there for good now. Also the last time this happened there was more then one person involved so I know it can happen that way. The person who faked their death and the person who reported it.
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Jillio wasnt involved nor a part of this hoax.
 
dreama said:
There is lying and lying. Why bring Nika into this after he was driven off the forum. He may have had issues but he has been through a lot so far so please lay off Nika.

Nika NEVER faked his own death.
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Nika may not have faked his own death but Nika toyed with people's emotions.

Nika was not driven off this forum, he just couldn't spin any more manipulations to his web of lies. People saw through him and his character.

Nika invited himself to his own character assassination.

Byrdie is just doing the same as Nika.
 
If people want to dig let them.
If people want to forget then stop reading.

People don't like being made fun of and it makes it scary if you really do snuff it and people get so used to people playing games that they say "Prove it". I would hate that kind of thing to happen.

If people get someothing out of digging up the dirt that should be alowed in this case. It maybe theraputic for them at this stage. You can't simply ask people to go through something like this and then just forget about it all. After all we are only human.

So I say if it makes you feel better carry on digging.
 
Jiro said:
now that's a different story. what you speak of sounds like zombie bots. but what are the chance that a banned ADer would do such technique as mentioned above? that requires money and resource - something that "professional" scammers can have. A typical banned ADer does not.
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Yes a "typical banned ADer" but is that the case here? Is he/she willing to start a new drama? If all this is truth, I am not even certain of the gender of the banned members. The IP software is about $20 or so. Not a huge expense for someone that derives great pleasure from interactions from Internet websites, while maintaining anonymous surfing and interacting. My guess? It may have already begun. Perhaps this banned member has another account with which to chastize himself. You never know....
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Actually, he can create a new screenname if he use another computer, not his own computer. Alex can see thru his IP if he create another screenname with his own computer... I know it´s suck. I´ll prepare for him if he create another screenname to log in here.

No, he can´t do anything to prove us his innocent because 3 person (TT, Squirt and himself) use same IP on one computer but the worst is Byrdie use his husband´s name to upated Jillio per emails about Brydie´s health, dying to death and also fake death on Mother´s Day. Those is good enough to convince us what he really is. What he did is a definitely sick.
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No, IP address is from ISP, not computer and if you subscribe to DSL or cable companies then IP address will applies to your household, it means anyone in your household will use same IP address.

If you have 2 computers then you can take IP address test and see if it's same.
 
dreama said:
There is lying and lying. Why bring Nika into this after he was driven off the forum. He may have had issues but he has been through a lot so far so please lay off Nika.

Nika NEVER faked his own death.
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No, but then, he never got the idea, either. If someone had suggested it, he may have tried to pull it off. You never know. I think the comparison is a righteous one.
 
dreama said:
If people want to dig let them.
If people want to forget then stop reading.

People don't like being made fun of and it makes it scary if you really do snuff it and people get so used to people playing games that they say "Prove it". I would hate that kind of thing to happen.

If people get someothing out of digging up the dirt that should be alowed in this case. It maybe theraputic for them at this stage. You can't simply ask people to go through something like this and then just forget about it all. After all we are only human.

So I say if it makes you feel better carry on digging.
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dreama, your advice isn't healthy.

Quite the opposite. :eek3:
 
Mrs Bucket said:
Nika may not have faked his own death but Nika toyed with people's emotions.

Nika was not driven off this forum, he just couldn't spin any more manipulations to his web of lies. People saw through him and his character.

Nika invited himself to his own character assassination.

Byrdie is just doing the same as Nika.
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Thank you.
 
:laugh2: this thread!! :thumb:



Thanks to Candybrowneyes, Alexie and Mods too ;)
 
Oceanbreeze said:
No, but then, he never got the idea, either. If someone had suggested it, he may have tried to pull it off. You never know. I think the comparison is a righteous one.
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Yes, OB.

The comparison is right because it falls in the same category.
 
dreama said:
If people want to dig let them.
If people want to forget then stop reading.

People don't like being made fun of and it makes it scary if you really do snuff it and people get so used to people playing games that they say "Prove it". I would hate that kind of thing to happen.

If people get someothing out of digging up the dirt that should be alowed in this case. It maybe theraputic for them at this stage. You can't simply ask people to go through something like this and then just forget about it all. After all we are only human.

So I say if it makes you feel better carry on digging.
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It is indeed sad that we have to be more cynical, but we've learned a hard lesson. I think it is better for all of us to protect ourselves and ask question, then let our gaurd down and be duped again like this.
 
My thought hits me is the big " What IF?" What if we were wrong about him? What if he didn't do anything? Squirt might have family members in HIS house, so that explain why Squirt use the same IP address as Byrdie's while he was at the hospital. Then Byrdie show up and he hadn't had the time to explain when he was banned fast. But it still doesn't explain Twinkletoes which was a coincidence. :scratch: I wonder "What IF?"
 
That's why moderation teams are careful when they do bannings based on IP wildcards 123.345.* etc (Ie, if the IPs match, the associated users are also under suspicion.)

When you've been doing it awhile, you'll see that anyone can be using a spoof, VPN, proxy, mask to hide their real addresses. The key is to collect all of the posts, not just certain ones.

I am sure the evaluation was done not just on this week, but the posts in the past - all these IP addresses are logged. 'Squirt' posted before leaving Ohio, if his IP is still the same when he was allegedly in washington, then that means he's never left wherever he was.

There are lots of rooms to screw up, lots of mods from different forums have built up an experience to understand how people "play" on the internet.

Not to mention, addresses are traceable to the state and country and locations they are in, while the ISP has your actual information regardless of where you are, they will hand it out only in the court of law that it is neccessary to do so (like, a suspect's behavior on the internet).

At this point in time, AD does face members who will attempt to "fake" their way, but at no way is this at the government sector where we determine what is right and wrong.

These additional resources also cost time, money, human judgment in order to utilize them and I don't think that's a necessary requirement to be "implemented" all because a few members are a bit out of the ordinary.. But you never know.

Best advice I can say is just watch out for what you do alone on the 'net.
"There is nothing in this world to believe in."
 
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