QuarkXPress vs. InDesign

illustrator · 06-03-2003, 01:58 PM

QuarkXPress been always popular to the printing and designer to create many thing such as book, magazine, and everything. But there are several limited features offer than InDesign by Adobe who create Photoshop, Illustrator, Arcobat and PostScript that domain well to the designer, too.

However, I found that InDesign is more easy to use, and comfortable as you can be familiar from Photoshop or Illustrator in vector line and drop shadow on any object. Unlike PagerMaker, it have strenght features expect the color what QuarkXpress are easy experience since middle 80s.

Of course, everybody are try to learn from InDesign. I read from people's comments about InDesign, they found attractive with this application much better. The worst thing is, it required the powerful computer to running and seem slow in XP and X native. I guess, that it would take bit more time until we see QuarkXPress 6.0 InDesign 3.0 to show the true PRO toward the graphic designer.

That's my thought.... how about you. I am sure, few of you have experience with application. So, wake up!

SilenceGold · 06-03-2003, 02:17 PM

No experience with either one of them.

SmellyFeet · 06-03-2003, 05:20 PM

I have only experienced QuarkXpress4 and 5...and I love it.. at first I thought QuarkXpress was some silly-bitchin'-stupid design program and so I used Illustrator...but now, as I am learning more of QuarkXpress, I come to like it..maybe I'll propose to QuarkXpress and live happily ever after...yeah..

Dunno about InDesign though..never use it...and wonder if KaZaa has it...

illustrator · 06-04-2003, 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by SmellyFeet
I have only experienced QuarkXpress4 and 5...and I love it.. at first I thought QuarkXpress was some silly-bitchin'-stupid design program and so I used Illustrator...but now, as I am learning more of QuarkXpress, I come to like it..maybe I'll propose to QuarkXpress and live happily ever after...yeah..

Dunno about InDesign though..never use it...and wonder if KaZaa has it...

You should try the demo, I think adobe.com still offer 30-days try-out on InDesign.

What's wonder about InDesign is, you can export into PDF easy than QuarkXPress by annoying open Acrobat Distiller when InDesign has built-in distiller like Illustrator, you know? Of course, it allow you to edit in Acrobat (not Reader) what it cannot be edit after export from QuarkXPress. How weird, isn't it?

ventiCM · 08-13-2003, 09:42 PM

It is true that Quark is popular app, but they have lousy tech support by any means. Quark have this well-known reputation for most terrible customer services. In fact, there are lot of designers complained about Quark's rip-off services... rip-off high cost to upgrade, rip-off high cost to contact tech support representatives... Most recently, Quark finally released new version of Quarks... but there is lot of bugs. Not good!

As for Adobe InDesign 2, I made an investment into InDesign 2 for OSX last autumn (Oct 2002). As many of you, I am sure that you are familiar with Adobe System's outstanding reputation for excellent customer service support... and they also have great gurus out there at Adobe Users forums for whatever topics relating to software apps.

The Heretic · 09-01-2003, 01:31 PM

InDesign2 blows the living daylights of QuarkExpress out of the water.

For far too long the QuarkExpress folks have been napping on their laurels, and that bit them in their collective asses when the new kid on the block is stealing all the positive buzz.

I use Indesign to create layouts for magazines and it's the essence of efficiency. Can't say the same for QE.

Ah well, let's hope QE ditches its fat cat syndrome before it's too late.

illustrator · 09-02-2003, 01:12 PM

InDesign have more adventage than QuarkXPress as I could make easy transparent which are most popular. I always have funny feel about QuarkxPress's look when I work on it. It make several mistake I made. Maybe I set somthing wrong.

Well, look... QuarkXPRess 6.0 has finally release for OS X native and it turn out much same as 5.0. That's pretty disappointment. It required 10.2. It cost too much for upgrade! Damn.

bree · 10-22-2003, 10:20 PM

I know and use QuarkXpress, but they have a very long history of f**king over customers. Regardless of people's opinions of Macs, this is a HUGE percentage of Quark's userbase. (The Mac has historically supported features necessary for Desktop publishing that the PC hasn't, so this industry is still almost exclusively Mac)

They took almost 3 years to upgrade their program to Mac OS X, and actually provided a new version (5) that was not compatible with OS X *AFTER* this system was released. They also STILL charge a large chunk of change for an international version called "Passport", regardless of the built in international capabilities of OS X (is this also true with XP?) The CEO of the company has publicly trashed the Mac.

This is from a Mac users perspective of the company, but if you put OS preferences aside and look at the behavior itself, it is plainly stupid.
A company that basically blows off the majority of its customers?
Would you actually want to buy something from a company that spits in your face?

Putting that aside.. Indesign is a lot cheaper, especially if you need other adobe apps, and buy it bundled. The bundle (indesign, photoshop, illustrator, etc) is actually about the same price as QuarkXpress ALONE (about 1k). No brainer.

weekend · 10-22-2003, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bree

I know and use QuarkXpress, but they have a very long history of f**king over customers. Regardless of people's opinions of Macs, this is a HUGE percentage of Quark's userbase. (The Mac has historically supported features necessary for Desktop publishing that the PC hasn't, so this industry is still almost exclusively Mac)

They took almost 3 years to upgrade their program to Mac OS X, and actually provided a new version (5) that was not compatible with OS X *AFTER* this system was released. They also STILL charge a large chunk of change for an international version called "Passport", regardless of the built in international capabilities of OS X (is this also true with XP?) The CEO of the company has publicly trashed the Mac.

This is from a Mac users perspective of the company, but if you put OS preferences aside and look at the behavior itself, it is plainly stupid.
A company that basically blows off the majority of its customers?
Would you actually want to buy something from a company that spits in your face?

Putting that aside.. Indesign is a lot cheaper, especially if you need other adobe apps, and buy it bundled. The bundle (indesign, photoshop, illustrator, etc) is actually about the same price as QuarkXpress ALONE (about 1k). No brainer.

hmm... new QuarkXPress for around $899 - just compare to Adobe's one pack set: Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat and InDesign for $999.

Wow, Adobe have a best deal than QuarkXPress! Think about it... without InDesign, you want QuarkXPress with Photoshop and QuarkXPress... it's way EXPENSIVE!

***Alex*** · 10-27-2003, 10:26 PM

I use QuarkXPress at work. Never used InDesign before. QuarkXPress seems like a very good tool for printing design, and I'm happy with it.

illustrator · 01-28-2004, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I use QuarkXPress at work. Never used InDesign before. QuarkXPress seems like a very good tool for printing design, and I'm happy with it.

What's good about InDesign... it allow you export as PDF to match for print, web, and e-book.

Lately, I hear that QuarkXPress (new verison) has improve that allow to export in PDF without have to use Adobe Acrobate Distiller.

06-03-2003, 01:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
illustrator Love in Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Benbrook Posts: 4,594	QuarkXPress vs. InDesign QuarkXPress been always popular to the printing and designer to create many thing such as book, magazine, and everything. But there are several limited features offer than InDesign by Adobe who create Photoshop, Illustrator, Arcobat and PostScript that domain well to the designer, too. However, I found that InDesign is more easy to use, and comfortable as you can be familiar from Photoshop or Illustrator in vector line and drop shadow on any object. Unlike PagerMaker, it have strenght features expect the color what QuarkXpress are easy experience since middle 80s. Of course, everybody are try to learn from InDesign. I read from people's comments about InDesign, they found attractive with this application much better. The worst thing is, it required the powerful computer to running and seem slow in XP and X native. I guess, that it would take bit more time until we see QuarkXPress 6.0 InDesign 3.0 to show the true PRO toward the graphic designer. That's my thought.... how about you. I am sure, few of you have experience with application. So, wake up!

09-01-2003, 01:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
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06-03-2003, 02:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
SilenceGold Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,484	No experience with either one of them.

06-03-2003, 05:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
SmellyFeet Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 122	I have only experienced QuarkXpress4 and 5...and I love it.. at first I thought QuarkXpress was some silly-bitchin'-stupid design program and so I used Illustrator...but now, as I am learning more of QuarkXpress, I come to like it..maybe I'll propose to QuarkXpress and live happily ever after...yeah.. Dunno about InDesign though..never use it...and wonder if KaZaa has it...

08-13-2003, 09:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
ventiCM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewhere in Upper Midwest of the USA Posts: 41	It is true that Quark is popular app, but they have lousy tech support by any means. Quark have this well-known reputation for most terrible customer services. In fact, there are lot of designers complained about Quark's rip-off services... rip-off high cost to upgrade, rip-off high cost to contact tech support representatives... Most recently, Quark finally released new version of Quarks... but there is lot of bugs. Not good! As for Adobe InDesign 2, I made an investment into InDesign 2 for OSX last autumn (Oct 2002). As many of you, I am sure that you are familiar with Adobe System's outstanding reputation for excellent customer service support... and they also have great gurus out there at Adobe Users forums for whatever topics relating to software apps.

09-02-2003, 01:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
illustrator Love in Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Benbrook Posts: 4,594	InDesign have more adventage than QuarkXPress as I could make easy transparent which are most popular. I always have funny feel about QuarkxPress's look when I work on it. It make several mistake I made. Maybe I set somthing wrong. Well, look... QuarkXPRess 6.0 has finally release for OS X native and it turn out much same as 5.0. That's pretty disappointment. It required 10.2. It cost too much for upgrade! Damn.

10-22-2003, 10:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
bree UnSane Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 158	I know and use QuarkXpress, but they have a very long history of f*king over customers. Regardless of people's opinions of Macs, this is a HUGE percentage of Quark's userbase. (The Mac has historically supported features necessary for Desktop publishing that the PC hasn't, so this industry is still almost exclusively Mac) They took almost 3 years to upgrade their program to Mac OS X, and actually provided a new version (5) that was not compatible with OS X AFTER* this system was released. They also STILL charge a large chunk of change for an international version called "Passport", regardless of the built in international capabilities of OS X (is this also true with XP?) The CEO of the company has publicly trashed the Mac. This is from a Mac users perspective of the company, but if you put OS preferences aside and look at the behavior itself, it is plainly stupid. A company that basically blows off the majority of its customers? Would you actually want to buy something from a company that spits in your face? Putting that aside.. Indesign is a lot cheaper, especially if you need other adobe apps, and buy it bundled. The bundle (indesign, photoshop, illustrator, etc) is actually about the same price as QuarkXpress ALONE (about 1k). No brainer.

10-27-2003, 10:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
*Alex* Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,415 Blog Entries: 1	I use QuarkXPress at work. Never used InDesign before. QuarkXPress seems like a very good tool for printing design, and I'm happy with it.