JFK and Mimi Alford - Page 2

kokonut · 02-08-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

No, I don't think so. I do think the act of cheating itself is wrong but wouldn't go so far as to say everyone who cheated are depraved.

Fine. You don't think it's act of depravity when he cheated on his own wife with 19 year old intern but I say that's a good example of it.

DeafCaroline · 02-08-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Fine. You don't think it's act of depravity when he cheated on his own wife with 19 year old intern but I say that's a good example of it.

re-read what i wrote.

p.s. many studies had been done on the subject of extra-marital affairs and statistics of spouses who cheat. Overall, they say about 50% of married men have cheated or will cheat. So, basically, according to your own definition, that means 50% of married men, more or less, in America are depraved. I just don't agree that all men who cheated are necessarily depraved, just that the act of cheating itself is indeed wrong.

We are all sinners. So, basically, that would mean even you and me are depraved if you want to start finger-pointing at those who did wrong in their lives.

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 03:49 PM

Marriage Between a man and a woman should be honest.You see,, Once your married you cant fool around with other ladies. When you done your job at work you go home to your wife and kids. You dont drive off to parties and get drunk. You made vows at your wedding to keep. And you stay married!
Marrage is for life until the day you die.

DeafCaroline · 02-08-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

Marriage Between a man and a woman should be honest.You see,, Once your married you cant fool around with other ladies. When you done your job at work you go home to your wife and kids. You dont drive off to parties and get drunk. You made vows at your wedding to keep. And you stay married!
Marrage is for life until the day you die.

Everyone who gets married has those intentions to be loyal till death. Then life happens.

**Reba** · 02-08-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

Id would love those Days

Ha!

For starters, no video games, no texting, no internet, no A/C, no central heat, no interstate highways, no TV, no movies, no penicillin, no air travel, no videophones, no ADA....

**Banjo** · 02-08-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

Look,,People were not bitching back in 1880s. In fact it was very easy get a job and pay for a home back before 1900s ever started. Did you know you can sell food on the street during the 1800s without getting a permit. Look neighbors call cops on kids selling lemonade because they dont have a permit. Thats dumb!

There were plenty of bitching in the 1880s.

**Reba** · 02-08-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

There were plenty of bitching in the 1880s.

They just didn't have the blogs to promote it.

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

There were plenty of bitching in the 1880s.

Where were the protests about the Civil War?

kokonut · 02-08-2012, 03:55 PM

I could also use synonyms like "debased," "decadent," "degenerate," "demoralized," "corrupt," "loose," "perverse," "perverted," "reprobate," "sick," or "unwholesome."

Oh, I already read it. You disagree. I have a different take when it comes to an abusive relationship by taking advantage of it.

kokonut · 02-08-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

They just didn't have the blogs to promote it.

Written diaries I'm sure.

**Banjo** · 02-08-2012, 03:57 PM

JFK and Jackie both had affairs. Yet I don't see anyone here going after her. Hmm.

**Banjo** · 02-08-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

Where were the protests about the Civil War?

Not just that, there were plenty of issues with the assimilation of the Native Americans and land theft.

kokonut · 02-08-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

re-read what i wrote.

p.s. many studies had been done on the subject of extra-marital affairs and statistics of spouses who cheat. Overall, they say about 50% of married men have cheated or will cheat. So, basically, according to your own definition, that means 50% of married men, more or less, in America are depraved. I just don't agree that all men who cheated are necessarily depraved, just that the act of cheating itself is indeed wrong.

We are all sinners. So, basically, that would mean even you and me are depraved if you want to start finger-pointing at those who did wrong in their lives.

Yes, we're all sinners. But then there's forgiveness. Did Jackie ever forgive him? Did JFK ever felt remorseful on what he had done? Nobody will ever know.

kokonut · 02-08-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

JFK and Jackie both had affairs. Yet I don't see anyone here going after her. Hmm.

Ok.

**Reba** · 02-08-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

Where were the protests about the Civil War?

Civil War Anti-War Protests - Ohio History Central - A product of the Ohio Historical Society

American History: As the Civil War Grows, So Does Opposition (VOA Special English 2009-10-29)

New York Draft Riots - Images of 1863 Riots in New York City

**Banjo** · 02-08-2012, 04:02 PM

Does anyone really care? They are both dead now. History is history and whatever is a mystery to us probably will remain that way for good. Besides, it's not really any of our business to pry into anyone's marriage.

**Reba** · 02-08-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Written diaries I'm sure.

More than that. There were newspaper editorials, public speeches, protests, and riots.

Beach girl · 02-08-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Ha!

For starters, no video games, no texting, no internet, no A/C, no central heat, no interstate highways, no TV, no movies, no penicillin, no air travel, no videophones, no ADA....

Worse still for women: no birth control! Probably the single most life-saving concept invented, be it condoms, diaphragms, the b.c. pill, whatever.

Walk through any graveyard with tombstones from before 1900, and you will see a stunningly large number of graves of young women who died in childbirth, quite often with mention of the babe who died with them.

DeafCaroline · 02-08-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Yes, we're all sinners. But then there's forgiveness. Did Jackie ever forgive him? Did JFK ever felt remorseful on what he had done? Nobody will ever know.

And neither will you.

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

Not just that, there were plenty of issues with the assimilation of the Native Americans and land theft.

Well The Native Americans fought back!!! What did African Americans do during thiose civil rights days? They caused trouble!! If they were serious about freedom they should had pick up guns and fight! Like the Native Americans did.

**Reba** · 02-08-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

Well The Native Americans fought back!!! What did African Americans do during thiose civil rights days? They caused trouble!! If they were serious about freedom they should had pick up guns and fight! Like the Native Americans did.

What are you talking about?!

**Banjo** · 02-08-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

Well The Native Americans fought back!!! What did African Americans do during thiose civil rights days? They caused trouble!! If they were serious about freedom they should had pick up guns and fight! Like the Native Americans did.

That's an oxymoron if I ever saw one.

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 04:09 PM

Violance and War is the American way. Look at the American revolution. Like the Boston tea party. When people have enough they revolt and take action. They got sick of that tea tax so they took matters into their hands. Just like they had just enough tolerance against the Brits. So they all took up arms and fought the brits and send em back to england.

**Banjo** · 02-08-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

Violance and War is the American way. Look at the American revolution. Like the Boston tea party. When people have enough they revolt and take action. They got sick of that tea tax so they took matters into their hands. Just like they had just enough tolerance against the Brits. So they all took up arms and fought the brits and send em back to england.

No, it isn't.

Beach girl · 02-08-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

JFK and Jackie both had affairs. Yet I don't see anyone here going after her. Hmm.

She wasn't the president. Her affairs just didn't have the same consequence. Far as I know, she never had an affair with a young male intern. Hers were with adults (remember at the time of the Kennedy-Alford affair, age of adulthood was 21).

Jackie O tapes to reveal her and JFK's affairs and who she believed was behind his death | Mail Online

A reference to Jackie's affairs in retaliation for Jack's "many flings," and a reference to JFK's affair "with a 19-year-old intern" in The Daily Mail last August.

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 04:18 PM

What you think this is all about?

In November 2010 these people sent a powerful message to Washington. Democrats lost 40 seats because of this backlash.And the Tea Party isnt going away.

**Banjo** · 02-08-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

That woman is obviously a proud racist.

kokonut · 02-08-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

And neither will you.

What? I didn't commit those transgressions against her. Totally impossible on my part to forgive. It'd be up to the lady to forgive or not.

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

No, it isn't.

Read the Lyrics to the star spangled banner

O say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming.
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming.
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Its a song about war.

Its just our way. Unlike Canada its a song about peace. Canadians dont fight except in Hockey games.

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

Canadians dont stand silence on their song. They even cheer and sing with it. I never seen Americans cheer with their song. Its just not our way.

Best O Canada ever! - Mark Donnelly watch in high quality - YouTube

Canadians dont behave properly at their song. But Americans do.

You Tube

Thats the Right way to honor your country.

AlleyCat · 02-08-2012, 04:40 PM

So glad I'm above the mudslinging over a president dead some 50 years. The past is the past. At least *I* can move on, thank my lucky stars (including my non-need to rack up post points.)

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02-08-2012, 03:57 PM	#41 (permalink)
Banjo Expelled Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11,650	JFK and Jackie both had affairs. Yet I don't see anyone here going after her. Hmm. DeafCaroline likes this.

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Banjo Expelled Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11,650	Does anyone really care? They are both dead now. History is history and whatever is a mystery to us probably will remain that way for good. Besides, it's not really any of our business to pry into anyone's marriage. shel90 likes this.

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AlleyCat Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my time zone Posts: 10,833	So glad I'm above the mudslinging over a president dead some 50 years. The past is the past. At least I can move on, thank my lucky stars (including my non-need to rack up post points.) shel90 likes this.

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SteveMcGarrett Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 202	Marriage Between a man and a woman should be honest.You see,, Once your married you cant fool around with other ladies. When you done your job at work you go home to your wife and kids. You dont drive off to parties and get drunk. You made vows at your wedding to keep. And you stay married! Marrage is for life until the day you die.

02-08-2012, 04:09 PM	#53 (permalink)
SteveMcGarrett Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 202	Violance and War is the American way. Look at the American revolution. Like the Boston tea party. When people have enough they revolt and take action. They got sick of that tea tax so they took matters into their hands. Just like they had just enough tolerance against the Brits. So they all took up arms and fought the brits and send em back to england.

02-08-2012, 04:18 PM	#56 (permalink)
SteveMcGarrett Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 202	What you think this is all about? In November 2010 these people sent a powerful message to Washington. Democrats lost 40 seats because of this backlash.And the Tea Party isnt going away.