When Gas hits $4 a Gallon ill bet you the media wouldnt criticize Obama

SteveMcGarrett · 02-07-2012, 05:02 PM

You watch and see when it hit over $4 a Gallon. The Media will stay silent like nothings happend. But when Gas went over $3 a gallon when Bush was president here are the stories.

Networks Link Bush to 'Skyrocketing' Gas Prices 15 Times More Than Obama

Gas Prices Back Above $3, Networks Don't Question Obama Policies

Gas Prices Have Risen 55% On Obama’s Watch And Continue To Soar « Start Thinking Right

You Watch,, CBS NEWS,ABC NEWS,NBC NEWS.MSNBC and CNN wont point the finger at Obama when gas goes over $4 a gallon

DeafCaroline · 02-07-2012, 05:06 PM

Steve, you need to study economics. Price of oil always goes up when there is uncertainty about the country supplying the oil. It went up when the war on Iraq was launched, it went up again when the war on Libya began and now that Iran appears t be threatening Israel and cutting off the strait whereby their oil is shipped, it's going to go up again. As soon as I heard about Iran/Israel in the news, I knew the price of gas will go up over $4.

How I knew? I studied economics.

Bush STARTED a war with Iraq - a 10 year war. He is why the price of gas went up. Obama didn't start any at all. Why do you think he should be blamed for the price of gas going over $4?

**TWA** · 02-07-2012, 05:24 PM

Your ignorance is out of control. Stop before you seriously injure yourself.

AlleyCat · 02-07-2012, 05:39 PM

Besides, the media either criticizes or doesn't criticize every single president in history. Obama is no exception. Why is this news?

SteveMcGarrett · 02-07-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

Steve, you need to study economics. Price of oil always goes up when there is uncertainty about the country supplying the oil. It went up when the war on Iraq was launched, it went up again when the war on Libya began and now that Iran appears t be threatening Israel and cutting off the strait whereby their oil is shipped, it's going to go up again. As soon as I heard about Iran/Israel in the news, I knew the price of gas will go up over $4.

How I knew? I studied economics.

Bush STARTED a war with Iraq - a 10 year war. He is why the price of gas went up. Obama didn't start any at all. Why do you think he should be blamed for the price of gas going over $4?

Then why arent the people protesting at the EPA? Theyre the ones stopping the U.S to drill our own oil. The EPA wont allow Drilling in ANWR. The EPA wont allow the U.S Build more refineres. Obama is stopping Canada from putting their pipeline into the U.S because of the EPA wont approve it. So why Protest against wall street and the bankers?

**saywhatkid** · 02-08-2012, 09:19 AM

Guess you would prefer the good old days, with an oil man as POTUS. Not looking too good right now...

PowerON · 02-08-2012, 09:39 AM

Stop say that there would be $4/gal. It NEVER happen. It been repeat for half decade by the panic people.

Shut up. Shut up.... SHUT UP!

**saywhatkid** · 02-08-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

Stop say that there would be $4/gal. It NEVER happen. It been repeat for half decade by the panic people.

Shut up. Shut up.... SHUT UP!

Then you woke up.

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 01:13 PM

I Suggest yall read this book

I read it,,it makes perfect sense.

Why we cant drill our own oil? The EPA wont allow us. Just like the EPA wont allow us to build new refineries. The fact is Democrats want you go green like Solyndra for example.

**Jiro** · 02-08-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

I Suggest yall read this book

I read it,,it makes perfect sense.

Why we cant drill our own oil? The EPA wont allow us. Just like the EPA wont allow us to build new refineries. The fact is Democrats want you go green like Solyndra for example.

trust me. he knows nothing. this book is a joke. gingrich is a joke. both Democrats and Solyndra is a joke too.

a review from amazon about this book -

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First, I'm an independent. I do have 3 decades experiences as a federal worker working government programs with exposure to our elected officials. I'm familiar with the capabilities and limitations on both sides of the aisle. This includes energy. Mr. Gingrich...tho well meaning shows a lack of understanding of the complexity of the issue.

He does provide an adequate overview though slanted toward his political view. The strength of his case is the increasing daily power of special interests...does he acknowledge those he follows and in his party?

Two points illustrate his limitations. First, he never addresses that 35% of oil is used for crucial non-transportation aspects. These range from agriculture to plastics plus hundreds of more vital applications. He could include financial models showing the gravity of the consequences of losing this capability to better make his point of why we need to drill. Second, he should research EROEI...or energy return on energy energy invested...it frames how and why we can and should change based on scientific...managerial efficiency and effectiveness. It also will reveal the flaws on his too optimistic view of additional oil...buttressed by actual data (i.e. depletion rates, on line rates, etc.).

Yes...we are going to have an energy revolution...but it will be painful and take decades. His almost blind adherence to his sources without auditing and questioning them is a key example of why our government is broke IMO. His recommendations...though some noteworthy...are mainly 1 dimensional to a 3 dimensional problem.

The serious reader should explore other books on Amazon that more completely describe this issue to understand the importance, difficulty and gravity of this situation. I also suggest the Oil Drum...ASPO plus Solar...Wind...other alternative energy web sites. One caution...working closely with numerous leading edge technologies...they seldom come on line as quickly as the proponents say. This is why EROEI...management and decision systems are vital. IMO...concepts nearly foreign to Congress and White House as evidenced in hearings.

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Newt's ignorance of oil geology is evident from the title. There is a reason oil companies are called E&Ps with the exploration part first. You don't take a $400,000/day drill ship out to sea and start poking random holes in the ocean floor. We have little knowledge of the structures off the east and west coasts or in the Beaufort and Chuckchi Seas. We have better data in the Gulf, but the good new stuff is under allochthonous salt at great depth, not economic at current prices. The Green River oil shale is a 35 year joke. For one thing it isn't oil.

The U.S. has about 3% of the world's oil reserves despite nonsense from Gingrich and his ilk.

Rolf Westgard, member Geological Society of America

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A better, more honest title should be: "Drill here, drill now, and let your children pay the consequences".

This guy; like any other politician; will tell you what you want to hear, and once in office will do what he wants to or is told to do.

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Newt Gingrich is not a geologist. He really has no idea what he is talking about. The USA hit peak oil back in 1970. For 40 years now, oil production in the USA has been in decline. It didn't matter whether a Democrat or a Republican was in the white house or ruled Congress . . . oil production has been in decline since we have been drilling up the country for over 100 years now. Now recently there has been an uptick in production . . . why? Because oil prices moved from $20/barrel in 2000 to near $100/barrel now. That has made many previously uneconomic oil plays now economic. But there are not tons of them. And you can go ahead and drill them like crazy but they won't cause oil prices to drop . . . because if oil prices do start to drop, they'll stop drilling because they'll be losing money. Again, the only reason production has gone up lately is BECAUSE the price is high.

The USA only has about 2 or 3% of the worlds remaining oil reserves. (Go look it up.) Ask Legendary oilman and hardcore conservative T.Boone Pickens, he'll tell you "There is no way we can drill our way out of this problem."

This book is nothing but telling people what they want to hear. You should demand to be told the truth . . . not just lies that a politician knows you want to believe. If you want to know the real situation, I'd recommend digging up the lecture from Ken Verosub, Geology professor at UC Davis where he discusses Newt's crazy views on oil geology.

all these "glowing" positive reviews about his book are sheepies.

**TXgolfer** · 02-08-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

Steve, you need to study economics. Price of oil always goes up when there is uncertainty about the country supplying the oil. It went up when the war on Iraq was launched, it went up again when the war on Libya began and now that Iran appears t be threatening Israel and cutting off the strait whereby their oil is shipped, it's going to go up again. As soon as I heard about Iran/Israel in the news, I knew the price of gas will go up over $4.

How I knew? I studied economics.

Bush STARTED a war with Iraq - a 10 year war. He is why the price of gas went up. Obama didn't start any at all. Why do you think he should be blamed for the price of gas going over $4?

Obama continued those wars, and chose to get involved in Libya.

**Jiro** · 02-08-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Obama continued those wars, and chose to get involved in Libya.

blame Obama?

I ain't cuz gas hasn't reached over $4 like during Bush Administration

**TXgolfer** · 02-08-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

trust me. he knows nothing. this book is a joke. gingrich is a joke. both Democrats and Solyndra is a joke too.

all these "glowing" positive reviews about his book are sheepies.

I would say the same about the negative reviews. Reviews of political books are pretty much worthless.

**Jiro** · 02-08-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

I would say the same about the negative reviews. Reviews of political books are pretty much worthless.

intellectuals gets hanged first. think about that for a moment.

**TXgolfer** · 02-08-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

blame Obama?

I ain't cuz gas hasn't reached over $4 like during Bush Administration

Gas went down into the $1.30's after it was $4 under Bush as well. Gas was well under $2 when Obama took office.

**Jiro** · 02-08-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Gas went down into the $1.30's after it was $4 under Bush as well. Gas was well under $2 when Obama took office.

$1.30...... sigh.... how depressing....

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 01:47 PM

The thing to lower gas prices is drill oil here and build new refineries. You know why Gas is 27 cents a gallon in Venezuela and 45 cents a Gallon in Saudi Arabia? Cause they have the abilty to turn oil into gasolene there. They have more refineries than the U.S Has.

**Beowulf** · 02-08-2012, 01:55 PM

LOL

No one is blaming the oil companies. Interesting.

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 02:27 PM

Take a lesson from the San Francisco government when they get involved in Business
McDonald's charges 10 cents for Happy Meal toys to skirt ban - Telegraph

You see when Government gets involved regalating business then they have to raise the price of the item. Just like the EPA starts regalating evoinmental standards in Gasolene is why its over $3 a Gallon now. Just like when the EPA gets involved with Auto repair shops like changing your oil or tires you gotta pay for EPA fees. This is why we gotta THROW THE DEMOCRATS OUT!!!

**Jiro** · 02-08-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMcGarrett

The thing to lower gas prices is drill oil here and build new refineries. You know why Gas is 27 cents a gallon in Venezuela and 45 cents a Gallon in Saudi Arabia? Cause they have the abilty to turn oil into gasolene there. They have more refineries than the U.S Has.

right... and guess what?

they're primitive countries with shoddy environmental laws and dictators. if you don't mind factories, filth, and poor people all around you and also fascist governments, let's build refineries right in our backyard.

and guess what? lot of refineries in those countries are owned by.... what? American companies. Did you know we whopped Chavez's ass when he threatened to take over our refineries?

btw - what does it matter if gas is 27 cents per gallon in Venezuela? they're POOR! these commoners would be lucky enough to own a car or have a house with A/C. Average income in Venezuela is $12,400 a year.

rolling7 · 02-08-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

Steve, you need to study economics. Price of oil always goes up when there is uncertainty about the country supplying the oil. It went up when the war on Iraq was launched, it went up again when the war on Libya began and now that Iran appears t be threatening Israel and cutting off the strait whereby their oil is shipped, it's going to go up again. As soon as I heard about Iran/Israel in the news, I knew the price of gas will go up over $4.

How I knew? I studied economics.

Bush STARTED a war with Iraq - a 10 year war. He is why the price of gas went up. Obama didn't start any at all. Why do you think he should be blamed for the price of gas going over $4?

Why? Maybe because he is doing nothing about Iran.
Remember Clinton did nothing and gave us WTC.

**Jiro** · 02-08-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Why? Maybe because he is doing nothing about Iran.
Remember Clinton did nothing and gave us WTC.

WTC happened under Bush's watch. nice try.

DeafCaroline · 02-08-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Why? Maybe because he is doing nothing about Iran.
Remember Clinton did nothing and gave us WTC.

What is Obama supposed to be doing exactly with Iran?

**TXgolfer** · 02-08-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Why? Maybe because he is doing nothing about Iran.
Remember Clinton did nothing and gave us WTC.

Yup

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling7

Why? Maybe because he is doing nothing about Iran.
Remember Clinton did nothing and gave us WTC.

And Clinton had an oppitunity to get Bin Laden. But he failed to do his job because he wanted to help Al Gore get elected

A Path to 9/11 Scene Unedited - YouTube

Bill Clinton's Chris Wallace Interview - YouTube

Thats the truth!

rolling7 · 02-08-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

WTC happened under Bush's watch. nice try.

Nice try yourself. And the sleeper cells were planted when? And the planning was was done when? That is right.....right under Clinton's nose.
And why? Because Clinton cut off funding to the C.I.A, F.B.I and the Arm Force special service units.

rolling7 · 02-08-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

What is Obama supposed to be doing exactly with Iran?

You think maybe he could do something about Iran building an offensive nuclear bomb?
GAY (getting ahead of you)...yes, America has many nuclear bombs but we have no intention of using them for offensive purpose.
GAY 2....the atom bomb dropped on Japan was for defensive purpose. You can't have it both ways. If you state that Bush started a war with Iraq, then you have to admit Japan started a war with America.

DeafCaroline · 02-08-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

You think maybe he could do something about Iran building an offensive nuclear bomb?
GAY (getting ahead of you)...yes, America has many nuclear bombs but we have no intention of using them for offensive purpose.
GAY 2....the atom bomb dropped on Japan was for defensive purpose. You can't have it both ways. If you state that Bush started a war with Iraq, then you have to admit Japan started a war with America.

Read the news.

rolling7 · 02-08-2012, 03:24 PM

There is a bunch of it, so I don't know for sure which news your are referring to....link please

SteveMcGarrett · 02-08-2012, 03:30 PM

There is NO Nuclear Bomb in IRAN. Just like Bush thought WMDs in IRAQ when Saddam had none. What makes you think IRAN has the Bomb? Ever heard the expression cross that bridge when it comes to that? When IRAN test a Nuke successfuly then we can worry about it.

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SteveMcGarrett Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 202	When Gas hits $4 a Gallon ill bet you the media wouldnt criticize Obama You watch and see when it hit over $4 a Gallon. The Media will stay silent like nothings happend. But when Gas went over $3 a gallon when Bush was president here are the stories. Networks Link Bush to 'Skyrocketing' Gas Prices 15 Times More Than Obama Gas Prices Back Above $3, Networks Don't Question Obama Policies Gas Prices Have Risen 55% On Obama’s Watch And Continue To Soar « Start Thinking Right You Watch,, CBS NEWS,ABC NEWS,NBC NEWS.MSNBC and CNN wont point the finger at Obama when gas goes over $4 a gallon

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DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	Steve, you need to study economics. Price of oil always goes up when there is uncertainty about the country supplying the oil. It went up when the war on Iraq was launched, it went up again when the war on Libya began and now that Iran appears t be threatening Israel and cutting off the strait whereby their oil is shipped, it's going to go up again. As soon as I heard about Iran/Israel in the news, I knew the price of gas will go up over $4. How I knew? I studied economics. Bush STARTED a war with Iraq - a 10 year war. He is why the price of gas went up. Obama didn't start any at all. Why do you think he should be blamed for the price of gas going over $4? Angel1989 likes this.

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SteveMcGarrett Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 202	I Suggest yall read this book I read it,,it makes perfect sense. Why we cant drill our own oil? The EPA wont allow us. Just like the EPA wont allow us to build new refineries. The fact is Democrats want you go green like Solyndra for example.

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SteveMcGarrett Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 202	The thing to lower gas prices is drill oil here and build new refineries. You know why Gas is 27 cents a gallon in Venezuela and 45 cents a Gallon in Saudi Arabia? Cause they have the abilty to turn oil into gasolene there. They have more refineries than the U.S Has.

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Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,515	LOL No one is blaming the oil companies. Interesting. __________________ .

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SteveMcGarrett Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 202	Take a lesson from the San Francisco government when they get involved in Business McDonald's charges 10 cents for Happy Meal toys to skirt ban - Telegraph You see when Government gets involved regalating business then they have to raise the price of the item. Just like the EPA starts regalating evoinmental standards in Gasolene is why its over $3 a Gallon now. Just like when the EPA gets involved with Auto repair shops like changing your oil or tires you gotta pay for EPA fees. This is why we gotta THROW THE DEMOCRATS OUT!!!

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	There is a bunch of it, so I don't know for sure which news your are referring to....link please

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SteveMcGarrett Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 202	There is NO Nuclear Bomb in IRAN. Just like Bush thought WMDs in IRAQ when Saddam had none. What makes you think IRAN has the Bomb? Ever heard the expression cross that bridge when it comes to that? When IRAN test a Nuke successfuly then we can worry about it.

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