jillio

Wait, wait....you worked at a government job for all those years??? And now you spend all your time dissing the government???

Can you say big fat hypocrit?

What is it with these aging Tea Partiers? Give me all the government benefits I can hold, but damn it...keep your hands off my Medicare!!

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saywhatkid

Wrong! Porterhouse all the way! Seared and cooked medium!

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Jiro

oh I'm sorry to hear....

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rolling7

My second choice.

rolling7

Just ask all the thousands of postal workers who worked at low wages for years if they did not earn every penny of benefit. They paid in through sweat, tears and back-breaking hard labor. As oppose to those now getting entitlements without paying a dime nor lifting a finger to EARN the benefit.

jillio

It explains a lot, doesn't it?

jillio

Hypocrit, hypocrit, hypocrit. Take, take, take from the government, and all the while bitching about others you think are taking from the government. Two faced and hypocritical. Virtually nothing you have to say carries the least little bit of weight after discovering that you have been supported by the government for 38 years in a government job and are now sitting back and enjoying government sponsored retirement. You are a disgusting hypocrit, no more, no less.

rolling7

Take, take, take!!??!! This is showing how dumb you really are.
I earned, a reported in my post, every penny all by myself.
Long ago the deaf said "Why not get SSDI, you are qualified?"
I've never got one penny of SSDI nor SSI nor anything other than a rebate all taxpayers also got. You take the cake where it comes to making dumb post.

TXgolfer

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(Note: I tip him well out of guilt)

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TXgolfer

A) The USPS in an independent Fed agency that derives most of it's revenue through products and services rather than tax dollars.

B) It's called "earning" when you work, not "taking". There is a huge difference.

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jillio

Oh, puh-leeze. Like there are not benefits to a government job that the average employee in a non-government job never has available to them. It is being terribly naive at best, and purposely obtuse at worst, to ignore the fact that most people seek out government employment simply because the benefits are so much better than the private sector.

And yes, to take advantage of those for 38 years, and then turn around and act as if the government has never done anything for you is to be hypocritical.

It seems that you are getting your money's worth from your spell checker. What a shame that you tend to focus on the superficial instead of the deeper issues in a discussion. Oh, well. Just a sign of a deep seated need to believe that one is superior. The stuff bullies are made of.

TXgolfer

Those benefits are still earned as part of compensation. Much different than entitlements.

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rolling7

Exactually. But you are forgetting that she is the hero of those getting entitlement.

Reba

Are you jealous? I mean, really. Some people find better jobs than others. So?

My late FIL worked all his life for an automotive industry with extremely good benefits, better than any government job. So?

There's nothing wrong with seeking a job with good benefits, especially if one works hard at that job.

Take advantage? That is so insulting to all government employees. If they put in the labor, why shouldn't they be compensated?

deafskeptic

Why would she be jealous? She's already gainfully employed.

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Reba

That's not the same as all those golden government job benefits she thinks all civil service workers get. Especially if many of those workers didn't even need to get a PhD in order to make good money and get a good retirement plan.

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deafskeptic

Oh? Which civil service workers don't get the benefits? From what I can see, many get better benefits than they would in the private sector.

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TXgolfer

And?

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jillio

Still full of hypocrisy. smh

jillio

Jealous? I was actually offered more than one postion with the government through agency work. I turned it down.

Right. Government jobs offfer no benefits outside the same ones received in the private sector. Then what is the great advantage in securing a government job?

You can work for the government if you so choose. But you cannot take advantage of the benefits provided through government employment for 38 years, continue to live off that pension, and then turn around and accuse everyone else of looking for entitlements. Same thing as "Hands off my Medicare." Well, I guess you can do it; but expect to have the hypocrisy pointed out.

And before you say, "I never..." I was using the "you" in a generalized sense, and not a specific one.

deafskeptic

found this tidbit of info regarding long term temps at Federal level:
Source is OPM.gov
That's more than what I would have gotten via Manpower for a long term temp job.. not that I can find many via Manpower where I live. i will grant that the long term temp would have to pay both employee and government shares but I don't think manpower would offer anything so generous.

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Reba

Many are better than private sector but not all are "golden." There are also some workers who leave government service for private sector jobs.

Regardless, the worker is worthy of his hire.

Reba

Jealous because your current job doesn't pay as well as a government job, regardless of whether or not you were offered one.

I never said that. I said that there are some private sector jobs that pay better than civil service.

You really can't see the difference between one person working for a salary and another person receiving money without working?

You really can't see the difference between one person making mandatory paycheck deductions to a retirement fund and Medicare in order to someday maybe get some of that forced investment back, and another person collecting benefits without having paid into the pot?

...and you claim that others are obtuse? Incredible.

Are you addressing the generalized "you" in that sentence, too?

If you aren't replying to my specific posts, then don't quote them in your posts.

deafskeptic

I would imagine that's a lot better than what many would get in private sector especially if they're jobs like being cooks.

My brother could earn a lot more in the private sector as a computer system analyst but he chose to work for EPA instead.

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jillio

I don't think anyone claimed that they were all golden; just that as a rule, benefits for government jobs is better than that found in the private sector, and job security is greater. The point being made by bringing that into the discussion was that one cannot take advantage of the greater benefits and job security for 38 years, continue to be supported by the pension from that job, and also, in the same breath, accuse other government workers as getting entitlements. Well, again, one can. But then one must be prepared to have the hypocrisy pointed out. Just like the hypocrisy of "hands off my Medicare".

TXgolfer

Sure you can, those benefits were earned. It's that simple.

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jillio

Who exactly is getting entitlements? You seem to have some sort of group in mind, but it is so vague that you never get around to being specific. Just vague references that really don't mean much...especially coming from someone who took advantage of government employment for 38 years. In ubt fact, I doubt seriously that, in the private sector, you would have been able to maintain employment at one single company for that length of time. One of the advantages of government jobs is that it is very difficult to get fired. Greater job security. Espcecially with a disability.

deafskeptic

Exactly. I didn't mention that the same source that I cited also indicates that short term temporary workers for the government get no benefits.

If I were given the choice between a job as a cook for the private sector and the public sector, I would pick the public sector just because they're more generous. Odds are good I would get only part time perma jobs as cook in the private sector and it'd have no benefits.

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