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Bennett told reporters Friday that because multiple women have made accusations against Cain that there must be some truth to the allegations.

"There's an expression: where there's smoke, there's fire,” Bennett said. “The fact that there are multiple complaints tells me that it is more likely than not that there was some sexual harassment activity by this man at that time… the fact that there's more than one complaint is meaningful."

Bennett called Cain’s claims that the resolution was a severance agreement and not a legal settlement an “inaccurate description of the settlement agreement."

"This was a settlement of an internal complaint of sexual harassment,” Bennett said. “It was not a severance agreement."

Bennett also said there had been “more than one” incident of sexual harassment involving his client, and that Cain was made aware of all the incidents in the internal complaint filed in 1999.

"Mr. Cain knows the specific incidents that were alleged,” Bennett said. “My client filed a written complaint in 1999 against him specifically, and it had very specific incidents in it, and if he chooses to not remember or not acknowledge those that's his issue."

First Read - Restaurant group acknowledges settlement with Cain accuser

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jillio

Yeah. I bet you would find it very interesting.

Bottesini

Usually one would expect to see some documentation. I am not interested in politics, or the shenanigans of politicos, but it seems a little unreasonable just to assume the man is guilty because someone accused him..

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jillio

The documentation has been shown to attorneys. Everything has been confirmed. There is no need to release it to the general public. That is like asking a woman's sexual assault report to be printed in the local paper.

Five someones have accused him, two of which filed formal complaints many years prior to his even thinking about the Repub nomination.

TXgolfer

Somewhat more credible since this man can most likely be disbarred for lying.... But it's still just an allegation. Perhaps he will provide evidence later.

He also states that it was an internal complaint so no "formal charges" as you stated earlier in this thread.....In this case at least

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Steinhauer

That is exactly what I have been saying - but you, of all people, got it down to a simple sentence.

Steinhauer

Actually, if the attorney is representing what his client's views are, he cannot get disbarred for lying.

and ... attorneys have a reputation for .... lying. Not all of course ...

And to be very frank, open and honest - whether it was a "settlement" or a "severance" is not defined by his client. It is defined by the National Restaurant Association. If there was actually a court case with a file number and the case was settled instead of going to court, then it would be considered a settlement.

jillio

What more evidence do you want? The details of what Cain actually did to get a complaint filed against him? The reports have been viewed by lawyers. There was more than one incident reported in the complaint. A second womal filed a formal complaint. Three more have reported being sexually harrassed by Cain. One gave the details.

I said, "formal complaint" not "formal charges". The woman was following company policy for filing a complaint for sexual harrassment. That is what is supposed to be done. The woman followed protocol.

jillio

Did you read what the attorney said? He wasn't speaking in regard to his client's views. He was talking about the formal complaint that he has seen.

TXgolfer

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jillio

Why, Bott, of all people? That's pretty insulting.

And keep in mind, it is FIVE someones, two of whom have documented proof of the complaints.

There is also evidence of Bialek and Cain being seen together at a Tea Party less than 2 months ago. Yet he denied even knowing her.

jillio

I didn't say "formal charges". A formal complaint contains charges.

Okay, in the second one I said formal charges. Doesn't matter one iota, but nice attempt at trying to deflect from the actual issue. Typical.

Jiro

this is still going on?

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jillio

Yeah. Steiny and TxGolfer are still insisting that the women come forward and give all the lurid details as some form of proof. Hanging on to the pizza man's innocence with all they have in them. It is really kind of sad to watch.

Steinhauer

What is heart breaking to watch is that you would rather drag a man through the gutter than have all the details first.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...bialek-claims/

Janine Driver already stated that Bialeck was lying.

Now - to translate that into terms you can understand - another woman said Bialeck was lying.

jillio

I'm not dragging a man through the gutter. He has managed to place himself there without a bit of help from me.

And yet, you would drag 5 women through the gutter without a bit of proof that they are not being honest.

TXgolfer

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It matters a bunch. Goes to credibility.

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jillio

I see you edited again. You seem to have a propensity for doing that.

Janine Driver was giving an opinion, not proof of anything. Just an opinion. Nothing more.

Steinhauer

A professional opinion backed by years of consulting to the CIA, FBI, Law Enforcement Agencies, Judges, Fortune 500 companies ....

again - goes to credibility.

jillio

Yeah, you are big on attacking other people's credibility. All women, I might add. And all because Cain has destroyed his own.

jillio

Goes to nothing. Just an opinion, nothing more. Do you know what the stats are on CIA and FBI profiling? I wouldn't be pulling that out as an indication of expertise! LOL

TXgolfer

You also said there was a lawsuit filed in post 50

Yet your link above says it was internal. This is why we ask for sources when you make claims

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jillio

Another edit. Why don't you think these things all the way through before you hit submit.

You are absolutely incorrect. You might want to read the attorney's words. It does not have to be filed in court to be a settlement. Insurance companies pay settlements all the time to keep from having court cases filed.

jillio

Wow! You really are on a mission of deflection here, aren't you?

Fact: 5 women have accused Cain of sexual harrassment in the last 14 years. Two of them have formal documentation of both the charges and the settlement details. One of them has made a public statement releasing details. He has lied about even knowing the women, and then claimed "vague memories". He finally had to admit to knowing that the complaints were filed and settlements were paid. Still claimed not to know Bialek. Evidence of him seen talking to her at a Tea Pary event less than 2 months ago.

Address that.

whatdidyousay!

Paula Jones would not agree with that!

Steinhauer

If it had any basis, then there would have been formal charges. But, there wasn't.

Then 15 years later .... as Herman Cain is actually seen gaining ground in the primaries ...

edit: Yes, I edit.

jillio

That was a harrassment claim.

jillio

There you go again, just assuming these women are lying. You are really a piece of work. But hey, keep posting. It is a wonderful opportunity for everyone to see your character.

Gaining ground? You are delusional. His predicability dropped by half!

Yeah, Cain tried that tactic, too. First it was his fellow Repubs, then it was the Democratic machine, wonder who he'll blame tomorrow?

Steinhauer

You are assuming they are telling the truth because they are women. That is the difference. I am assuming ANY (male or female) person is innocent until proven guilty and so far, that hasn't happened.

But if Cain's polls drop, you can sigh a big breath of relief, that big bad pizza guy is no longer a threat to your precious Obama shrine in your kitchen.