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Unread 10-30-2011, 04:04 AM   #91 (permalink)
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A good friend of my sister is a doctor and she was personally approached by Micheal Moore asking her to lie and falsify records. She refused.
lie about what? falsify what kind of records?
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Unread 10-30-2011, 04:27 AM   #92 (permalink)
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why not?

so you do know what 1% and 99% represents for?
Yes I do and I don't care for it. I've followed a little tidbits here and there in the news, except for the Scott Olsen story who got beaned in the head by a tear gas canister. God bless his heart and I'm glad he survived.

Unfortunately, there have been others like him that did not when they came home from their recent tour.

In any rate, I'm not interested in the Occupy movement. I have more things to worry about, like my wife 24/7. You know about that.

I also hate cops and you know about that too.

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Unread 10-30-2011, 04:52 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Yes I do and I don't care for it. I've followed a little tidbits here and there in the news, except for the Scott Olsen story who got beaned in the head by a tear gas canister. God bless his heart and I'm glad he survived.

Unfortunately, there have been others like him that did not when they came home from their recent tour.

In any rate, I'm not interested in the Occupy movement. I have more things to worry about, like my wife 24/7. You know about that.

I also hate cops and you know about that too.



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but you keep bitching about jobs, the rich, financial difficulty, etc...... so that means you are the 99%.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 09:57 AM   #94 (permalink)
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I been watching the news a lot and I had notice a lot candidates trying to example what they really meant. I do not believe everything I heard, I expect any person that in the pubic eyes to lies soon or later.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 10:06 AM   #95 (permalink)
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I never said that. Moore is not important to me. As for "how far" I'd go to discredit him, I've done no such thing. I made one post showing links about his net worth.

I'm really surprised at your overreaction.
I have to agree. I'm a bit surprised at the level of reaction to this. I don't care about Michael Moore either. I can't stand his movies, not because he is "right" or "wrong," but because I can't keep watching the onslaught of poor logic and emoting in his movies.

It's showmanship and propaganda. My position is, if you want to convince or persuade me of anything, you must do so using well-reasoned logic and without emoting all over the place. But his movies are designed to get you riled up and to bypass your thinking. As soon as I detect that, I turn off the movie.

In mind, it's not whether he is "wrong" or "right." I just don't care for how he presents his viewpoint.

As to whether he is wealthy, of course he is. He's not scraping by on $25,000 a year and living in a hovel. He's had lots of successful films and documentaries and he is a celebrity.

(Here's where I am surprised at the requests for proof. Would you ask for that level of proof about, say, an actor like Russel Crowe? Or a director like Steven Speilburg? There's no direct "proof" there, either, but no one seriously doubts they are wealthy.)

Is he a businessman? Yes. You simply cannot get where he is in society today without being one. He is a businessman who runs his own media operation. Does he like being a businessman? Probably not. But he is one.

This is not a partisan criticism. I don't like either wing of politics. They both go too far.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 11:20 AM   #96 (permalink)
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Nope, because I have served in the Grand Jury for 6 months for the State giving out either "true bill" or "no bill" to indict a person for a crime so it can move on to a trial phase.

Most majority of the cases we dealt with in the Grand Jury were tax fraud (and boring as hell at that).

This so called lawyer, show me your credentials in a PM. Thanks.

Tax records are public records. We asked the lead D.A. that question and he detailed in great length how one can obtain a person's tax records.

Also, Politicians are by law have to disclose their tax records to the public each year. It's called "checks and balances".

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You have no idea what you are talking about. If someone is under indictment for tax fraud, that makes their records available for the prosecution and the defense. It does not make them public record for any Tom, Dick, or Harry that wants to be nosy and create propoganda like this.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 11:21 AM   #97 (permalink)
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Wow, how is a severely injured person who has tried to look for work that gets rejected time and time again ends up with a label as "lazy"?

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Excuses, excuses, excuses.
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Man, it amazes me how many of the 99% bitch and whine and moan about the money people are able to make in a Capitalist system, but support the Conservative agenda lock stock and barrel. The very system that keeps the 1% in the 1%.

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Unread 10-30-2011, 11:51 AM   #99 (permalink)
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Doesn't surprise me either, Libs loves seething through their teeth. Libs never apply logic to their arguments/debates, only emotion.

It'll get worse, never better.

Trust me.

There's an old saying, "Good is evil and evil is good."

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You know what? You are a hardcore communist. Everything you have said is what a communist would have said. Hey, that's what you get for labelling me a Liberal, which I'm not. You shouldn't be criticizing people for this and that when you don't contribute to the society at all. In fact, you are supported by the taxpayers.

You are the true hypocrite.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 11:55 AM   #100 (permalink)
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A good friend of my sister is a doctor and she was personally approached by Micheal Moore asking her to lie and falsify records. She refused.
A good friend of my fourth cousin who lives in Hawaii told him that an accountant at Walmart told her that President Obama asked her to assassinate a postal worker for stealing mail.
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Excuses, excuses, excuses.
Yes, that's all a communist is capable of doing. They have to make excuses for their shortcomings.

They resort to calling me names and accuse me of anything they can think of. They profess to know this and that. It's just ridiculous how they expect us to believe everything they say.

All I'm asking is for the hard proof that he is in fact, worth $50 million. Otherwise, it's just a number someone pulled out off his ass.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 12:03 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Yes, that's all a communist is capable of doing. They have to make excuses for their shortcomings.

They resort to calling me names and accuse me of anything they can think of. They profess to know this and that. It's just ridiculous how they expect us to believe everything they say.

All I'm asking is for the hard proof that he is in fact, worth $50 million. Otherwise, it's just a number someone pulled out off his ass.
There is no proof. That is why they have to resort to these tactics to distract from the facts.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 12:12 PM   #103 (permalink)
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There is no proof. That is why they have to resort to these tactics to distract from the facts.
Which is hardly an overreaction like somebody made it out to be.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 12:20 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Yiz, I have serious medical issues, too. I'm sick on methotrexate and choking down pain pills. Sound familiar? Do you have dominantly inherited hearing loss? If so, we should compare notes.
You're angry and bittter. You won't admit it because you exoress your anger in a very passive-aggressive way. As a friend, I hope that you get a break from caring for you wife and take care of your own mental health. There's a heathier way to deal with this than insulting people for their political beliefs. If you'd like to chat about you challenges, PM me. I'm a good listener and I understand what you're going through.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 12:22 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Which is hardly an overreaction like somebody made it out to be.
Right. The only over reacting I see going on is coming from someone trying to distract everyone from the obviousness of his not knowing what he is talking about and being unable to support it. He has tried everything from personal insult, to abortion, to citizens arrest to cloud the issue.
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It matters, not.

Personally, I don't like Michael Moore. I find him to be too radical for my liking. Same as those on the far right. But, as to what his net worth is and if he was lying about it, I say

Who cares?
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So, Michael Moore decided to join OWS (and I am sooooo SHOCKED!). He babbled about how there were no goals, it isn't Obama's fault, or Congress - that these Wall Street tycoons are to blame for everyone having to work harder and longer hours yadda yadda yadda.

There were what appeared to be some crackheads all grouping up behind him - only reason I am saying this is because they appeared to be starving thin - but, that is an easy mistake to make when seeing anyone next to Michael Moore.

Michael Moore is an attention whore - he is sitting on $50 million and his only interest in OWS is to exploit it for his own personal gain.
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We asked the DA that question too, the DA said, "no."

In regards to privacy, seriously, what government actually cares about "privacy"???

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If you use a tax preparer or file electronically, tax records are no longer private. The company that prepares the forms can sell your information to anyone they want to.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 02:36 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Which is hardly an overreaction like somebody made it out to be.
Post #26 was the overreaction "somebody" referred to.
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Doesn't surprise me either, Libs loves seething through their teeth. Libs never apply logic to their arguments/debates, only emotion.Yiz
When anyone starts using the supposed stupidity of the opposition to support their own stance, I shut down. The perpetuation of pigeon-holing all people as "Libs" or "Reps" and believing that it is the thinking of one of these groups is uneducated or moronic, is the precise reason the country loses footing and problems are not addressed and resolved efficiently.When one believes that, 'if you are not with us, you are against us', ' if you don't think like me then you are simply not thinking', they are epitomizing narrow-mindedness, short-sightedness and stand in the way of any positive movement forward. Let's try and keep discussions about our own opinions based on what we know and experience ourselves without trying to drag along half a nation who may or may not share our ideas.
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So, Michael Moore decided to join OWS (and I am sooooo SHOCKED!). He babbled about how there were no goals, it isn't Obama's fault, or Congress - that these Wall Street tycoons are to blame for everyone having to work harder and longer hours yadda yadda yadda.

There were what appeared to be some crackheads all grouping up behind him - only reason I am saying this is because they appeared to be starving thin - but, that is an easy mistake to make when seeing anyone next to Michael Moore.

Michael Moore is an attention whore - he is sitting on $50 million and his only interest in OWS is to exploit it for his own personal gain.
My GAWD, you are a judgmental, intolerant, name calling, insecure, waste of space. How dare you assume someone is a "crack head". You are a hateful excuse for a human being. Get some therapy and develop some human characteristics.
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If you use a tax preparer or file electronically, tax records are no longer private. The company that prepares the forms can sell your information to anyone they want to.
Another lie.
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If you use a tax preparer or file electronically, tax records are no longer private. The company that prepares the forms can sell your information to anyone they want to.
Nope..wrong. If the company sells the information, they a lawsuit will happen.

Those who work for the state or federal levels are the ones whose incomes are made public.

Those who work for themselves or in the private sector, nope and that includes their tax records.

Pls stop spreading inaccurate information.
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Michael Moore in the top one percent? My Gawd, they are paupers!
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Guess Capitialism doesn't work.
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Nope..wrong. If the company sells the information, they a lawsuit will happen.

Those who work for the state or federal levels are the ones whose incomes are made public.

Those who work for themselves or in the private sector, nope and that includes their tax records.

Pls stop spreading inaccurate information.
Show me a lawsuit.
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My GAWD, you are a judgmental, intolerant, name calling, insecure, waste of space. How dare you assume someone is a "crack head". You are a hateful excuse for a human being. Get some therapy and develop some human characteristics.
You need to do the same.

Wouldn't want you to go ...... Bananas.
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Show me a lawsuit.
Why? You won't be able to understand it.

But seriously, Steinhauer, it takes a lot of ignorance to call anyone a liar with as many false statements as you make in writing around here.
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You need to do the same.
Speaking the only language you seem to understand.
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Show me a lawsuit.
A private company selling their clients' personal and private information?

What law makes that legal?
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