Declaration of Occupy Wall Street - Page 76

**Jiro** · 11-21-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

She did have to spend the night in jail, but I don't think she got permanently charged.

all charges are permanent if convicted but I believe her charge will be dropped. She'll have her day in court in couple months.

**Jiro** · 11-21-2011, 07:34 PM

from DD's link

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Two days earlier, just after the raid on Zuccotti, retired New York Supreme Court Judge Karen Smith had a similar experience when says she was pushed up against the wall by a police officer while trying to help woman he was allegedly beating.

“I was there to take down the names of people who were arrested,” Smith told Democracy Now!. She says she witnessed an African-American woman, who claimed her daughter was inside the Park, being thrown to the ground by a cop after she started crying.

“I walk over, and I say, ‘Look, cuff her if she’s done something, but you don’t need to do that’.” The officer then allegedly threatened Smith with arrest, despite her status as a legal observer being printed on her hat. “He said, ‘You want to get arrested?’ And he pushed me up against the wall.”

deafdyke · 11-21-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

do you realize that people who purposely antagonized police represents a very tiny percentage of entire OWS around the world? Do you realize that several police officers have been either suspended or placed under administrative leave for unlawful orders, excessive force, false arrest, etc.?

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hannah was PEACEFULLY PROTESTING!!!! I do think she got cuffed very tightly (her sister's status abt her said her hands were turning purple) and she also got hit.....and the " I'm out!" text she sent to her mom said that she had been beaten (not badly, and not Rodney Kinged) But still..........if that's not brutality, what is?!?!?!
And trust me....Hannah is a very very sweet woman. Not one of those "cops are pigs" types. She is a warrior, but a mental warrior!

**TXgolfer** · 11-21-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

not sure why you're using this line one too many times

That's not the case in here. It was an unlawful order to begin with.

yes and it's not illegal nor wrong.

I disagree.

**TWA** · 11-21-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

I disagree.

You're welcome to disagree, but you're still wrong.

**Jiro** · 11-21-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

I disagree.

that's fine but I ask you this - if it was lawful and if it was justified, then why was there a need for Oakland PD to investigate this matter?

**TXgolfer** · 11-21-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

that's fine but I ask you this - if it was lawful and if it was justified, then why was there a need for Oakland PD to investigate this matter?

Standard procedure to verify their crowd control policy was followed.

**TXgolfer** · 11-21-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

You're welcome to disagree, but you're still wrong.

Meh, failure to obey police orders is a crime, as is obstruction.

kokonut · 11-21-2011, 08:47 PM

Indeed. Maybe kids gloves are in order?

**TWA** · 11-21-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Meh, failure to obey police orders is a crime, as is obstruction.

I'm speaking on moral and ethical grounds, not U.S. legality, which is beside the point.

jillio · 11-21-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Uh ... no, its always been at 30.

As compared to your 164?

jillio · 11-21-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Standard procedure to verify their crowd control policy was followed.

Riiiight.

jillio · 11-21-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

I'm speaking on moral and ethical grounds, not U.S. legality, which is beside the point.

We are supposed to be afforded the right to peaceful protest in this country. Constitutional rights are being violated left and right.

Someone is afraid, and it isn't the protestors.

**deafskeptic** · 11-21-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

We are supposed to be afforded the right to peaceful protest in this country. Constitutional rights are being violated left and right.

Someone is afraid, and it isn't the protestors.

Exactly. I find it troubling that our Constitutional rights are being violated at will.
The 1% have quite a bit to lose and the 99% has a lot to gain if all goes well.

Steinhauer · 11-21-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

do you realize that people who purposely antagonized police represents a very tiny percentage of entire OWS around the world? Do you realize that several police officers have been either suspended or placed under administrative leave for unlawful orders, excessive force, false arrest, etc.?

Do you realize it is SOP to put a LEO on administrative leave pending an investigation if any force was used?

**Foxrac** · 11-21-2011, 09:43 PM

I went to Georgetown today to buy stuff so on way back to Gally, I saw many tents in McPherson Square with crowded of protesters.

I support OWS to speak out against on greedy corporation but they are really DIRTY for sure.

Steinhauer · 11-21-2011, 09:49 PM

jillio · 11-21-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Do you realize it is SOP to put a LEO on administrative leave pending an investigation if any force was used?

You've been spending too much time playing wanna be, Barney Fife.

Now take that Cracker Jack prize sheriff's badge off.

Steinhauer · 11-21-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

You've been spending too much time playing wanna be, Barney Fife.

Actually, that is what Scott Berry told me - feel free to call him:

Oconee County Sheriff's Office - Oconee County, Georgia

**deafskeptic** · 11-21-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

You've been spending too much time playing wanna be, Barney Fife.

Now take that Cracker Jack prize sheriff's badge off.

Barney Fife can be annoying.

jillio · 11-21-2011, 09:56 PM

Lasn, of Adbusters, has said the movement should repeat one simple demand: the need for "a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington."

But is there any chance of that happening? Perhaps there is, as awareness grows.

A study on the widening income gap released in 2010 by Michael I. Norton and Dan Ariely showed that most Americans, regardless of income level, gender and age, had no idea just how concentrated the wealth distribution in the nation really is.

Well, in just two months, without leaders and without any specific demands, the Occupy Wall Street movement has been able to spur what's being called a "national conversation" about that issue and big money's control of government.

Occupy Wall Street protests changed the conversation » Columns » The Daily Star, Oneonta, NY - otsego county news, delaware county news, oneonta news, oneonta sports

Steinhauer · 11-21-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by deafskeptic

Barney Fife can be annoying.

The number is (706) 769-3945

jillio · 11-21-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Actually, that is what Scott Berry told me - feel free to call him:

Oconee County Sheriff's Office - Oconee County, Georgia

Yeah, someone told you that Coretta Scott King was supporting Cain, too, and you believed it.

**deafskeptic** · 11-21-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Lasn, of Adbusters, has said the movement should repeat one simple demand: the need for "a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington."

But is there any chance of that happening? Perhaps there is, as awareness grows.

A study on the widening income gap released in 2010 by Michael I. Norton and Dan Ariely showed that most Americans, regardless of income level, gender and age, had no idea just how concentrated the wealth distribution in the nation really is.

Well, in just two months, without leaders and without any specific demands, the Occupy Wall Street movement has been able to spur what's being called a "national conversation" about that issue and big money's control of government.

Occupy Wall Street protests changed the conversation » Columns » The Daily Star, Oneonta, NY - otsego county news, delaware county news, oneonta news, oneonta sports

As far as I'm concerned those issues were way overdue for a discussion.

jillio · 11-21-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by deafskeptic

Barney Fife can be annoying.

No doubt.

**deafskeptic** · 11-21-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

No doubt.

Every time I got to my parents, I watch reruns.. Guess which show I watch.

Steinhauer · 11-21-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Yeah, someone told you that Coretta Scott King was supporting Cain, too, and you believed it.

His number is (706) 769-3945

And no, I didn't believe Coretta Scott King "endorsed" Cain as I was in Atlanta when her funeral made national headlines ...

Steinhauer · 11-21-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by deafskeptic

Every time I got to my parents, I watch reruns.. Guess which show I watch.

Flipper?

jillio · 11-21-2011, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

His number is (706) 769-3945

And no, I didn't believe Coretta Scott King "endorsed" Cain as I was in Atlanta when her funeral made national headlines ...

Your post tells another story.

You had to copy and paste the number of a web page? If you know him well enough to be discussing SOP and LET with him, why don't you know the number by heart...or at least have it programed into your phone? LOL

**deafskeptic** · 11-21-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Flipper?

No.

11-21-2011, 08:47 PM	#2259 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Indeed. Maybe kids gloves are in order? __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 32,471	I went to Georgetown today to buy stuff so on way back to Gally, I saw many tents in McPherson Square with crowded of protesters. I support OWS to speak out against on greedy corporation but they are really DIRTY for sure. jillio likes this. __________________ In Moto We Trust

11-21-2011, 09:56 PM	#2271 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	Lasn, of Adbusters, has said the movement should repeat one simple demand: the need for "a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington." But is there any chance of that happening? Perhaps there is, as awareness grows. A study on the widening income gap released in 2010 by Michael I. Norton and Dan Ariely showed that most Americans, regardless of income level, gender and age, had no idea just how concentrated the wealth distribution in the nation really is. Well, in just two months, without leaders and without any specific demands, the Occupy Wall Street movement has been able to spur what's being called a "national conversation" about that issue and big money's control of government. Occupy Wall Street protests changed the conversation » Columns » The Daily Star, Oneonta, NY - otsego county news, delaware county news, oneonta news, oneonta sports deafdyke and deafskeptic like this.

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