black problem - Page 2

jillio · 08-09-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Those are true cultures. We can deny it or acknowledge it and open dialogues with it. A lot of times dialogues will make it go away. Weird.

Absolutely. Dialogue is the answer. Non-judgemental non-defensive dialogue.

I think you can see what defensiveness accomplishes in cultural dialogues on this forum.

Buffalo · 08-09-2011, 05:00 PM

Those who want to know more about Jiro's video post...
4 held for trial in June shooting on SEPTA bus - Philly.com

**deafskeptic** · 08-09-2011, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

Absolutely. Dialogue is the answer. Non-judgemental non-defensive dialogue.

I think you can see what defensiveness accomplishes in cultural dialogues on this forum.

You raise an excellent point here. I didn't grow up in a neighborhood where gangs prevail so it's sometimes hard for me to understand where others are coming from.

DeafTim · 08-09-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo

Those who want to know more about Jiro's video post...
4 held for trial in June shooting on SEPTA bus - Philly.com

The young mother should be life in prison for pulling that shit. Gawt damn uneducated thugs.

rolling7 · 08-09-2011, 05:27 PM

Vote Bill Crosby for President

rolling7 · 08-09-2011, 05:48 PM

Vote Steve Harvey for Vice-President

Bebonang · 08-13-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Vote Bill Crosby for President

It is Bill Cosby, not Bill Crosby.

rolling7 · 08-14-2011, 10:18 PM

I don't feel bad, after all look at how long it took for someone to notice the error.

**Beowulf** · 08-14-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

I don't feel bad, after all look at how long it took for someone to notice the error.

I noticed it immediately but didn't want to risk getting assaulted.

jillio · 08-14-2011, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beowulf

I noticed it immediately but didn't want to risk getting assaulted.

Yeah. There seems to be some confusion between "noticing" and "not bothering to comment".

dogmom · 08-14-2011, 10:34 PM

we have gangs in my area and I remember seeing gang fights as a kid.
violence hurts everyone.

Bebonang · 08-14-2011, 10:37 PM

at #38,39, and 40.

dogmom · 08-14-2011, 10:37 PM

community gang violence stem from many things and become everyone's problem.

jillio · 08-14-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dogmom

community gang violence stem from many things and become everyone's problem.

True. Not the least if which is stratification which can be, but is not always, related to race. Just as gang membership is not related to race.

dogmom · 08-14-2011, 10:42 PM

Yes....

**sallylou** · 08-14-2011, 10:43 PM

Wirelessly posted (droid)

Kids who join gangs are looking for a family- a place to belong- no matter what race. Kids that have those needs fulfilled don't join a gang.

dogmom · 08-14-2011, 10:45 PM

yup - and kids who feel they have no outlet for anything else, no power - join a gang, get power. Get identity.

rolling7 · 08-14-2011, 11:16 PM

I know trolling when I see it! Notice there are 5 DAYS between #36 and #37 but only MINUTES between #38 and #39\40. Nothing more than a personal attack.

**Beowulf** · 08-14-2011, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling7

I know trolling when I see it! Notice there are 5 DAYS between #36 and #37 but only MINUTES between #38 and #39\40. Nothing more than a personal attack.

Personal attack? You made a false statement, that no one noticed the error in the name, and I merely pointed out that I did notice.

rolling7 · 08-15-2011, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beowulf

Personal attack? You made a false statement, that no one noticed the error in the name, and I merely pointed out that I did notice.

Then why did you also mention being afraid you might be assaulted? That was uncalled for.

shushugah · 12-29-2011, 01:43 AM

These comments are just depressing. No one has looked at all into WHY the ghetto culture was formed. Or WHY rap was made. I was born in a ghetto, and deal with members of the Colored Community (black, latino and asian) on a daily basis. The consumerist and self indulging hedonism of male youth in the ghetto community rightfully outrages people, but to tell them "get a job?" or talk to them in a distance of a few hundred feet away? That's a large essence of this problem. The ghetto and polarizing identity of being a member of color contributes and prolongs the the destruction of racial disjoint and disharmony on our society. Black, Asian and Latino people did not come out of nowhere. If you live in the United States, you enjoy the privilege of living in a country where Congress despite its flaws serves, thanks to the slaves who built the capitol building, Californian railroads were built by Chinese immigrants, and your food was farmed most likely by latinos, paid ridiculous wages.

If the only black people you are willing to meet with, are the quote "civilized ones", then you are contributing to the problem. I personally would also like to see the dissolution of ghetto culture, but in order to do that, you have to welcome your brethren, and teach them the love and compassion of humanity, something that I am not seeing too much here.

Ghetto and crime occurs in societies where life offers them little opportunity and life sucks for them. My ex bf was one of the few dominicans who didn't go on crack, but he was raised without parents, since both were in jail for drug trading, and his community is a dangerous place.

Native Americans villages are growing into ghettos, because of unemployment and desolate youth.

**TWA** · 12-29-2011, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shushugah

These comments are just depressing. No one has looked at all into WHY the ghetto culture was formed. Or WHY rap was made. I was born in a ghetto, and deal with members of the Colored Community (black, latino and asian) on a daily basis. The consumerist and self indulging hedonism of male youth in the ghetto community rightfully outrages people, but to tell them "get a job?" or talk to them in a distance of a few hundred feet away? That's a large essence of this problem. The ghetto and polarizing identity of being a member of color contributes and prolongs the the destruction of racial disjoint and disharmony on our society. Black, Asian and Latino people did not come out of nowhere. If you live in the United States, you enjoy the privilege of living in a country where Congress despite its flaws serves, thanks to the slaves who built the capitol building, Californian railroads were built by Chinese immigrants, and your food was farmed most likely by latinos, paid ridiculous wages.

If the only black people you are willing to meet with, are the quote "civilized ones", then you are contributing to the problem. I personally would also like to see the dissolution of ghetto culture, but in order to do that, you have to welcome your brethren, and teach them the love and compassion of humanity, something that I am not seeing too much here.

Ghetto and crime occurs in societies where life offers them little opportunity and life sucks for them. My ex bf was one of the few dominicans who didn't go on crack, but he was raised without parents, since both were in jail for drug trading, and his community is a dangerous place.

Native Americans villages are growing into ghettos, because of unemployment and desolate youth.

I used to think like you when I was younger. Now that I live in an area that truly has a ghetto culture, I think a bit differently. My area is going through regentrification, but there are still a lot of streets that I wouldn't be caught on after 10pm. You're right--I don't talk to the thugs. My first priority is to ensure that I am not robbed or attacked, and if that means avoiding people who fit a certain profile, then so be it. I will not feel guilty about that at all.

It's true that ghetto culture is the result of many different factors, many of which are outside the control of the people who live in it, but to imply that the problems facing people in the ghetto are entirely the fault of others (which you are doing) and bringing up the red herring of slavery is to adopt an apologist mentality that does not do anything to help the situation. When leaders of the black community are speaking up and addressing not the causes of the behavior but the behavior itself and saying it needs to stop, you know something is wrong.

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sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	Wirelessly posted (droid) Kids who join gangs are looking for a family- a place to belong- no matter what race. Kids that have those needs fulfilled don't join a gang. jillio and deafskeptic like this. __________________

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dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,475	yup - and kids who feel they have no outlet for anything else, no power - join a gang, get power. Get identity. jillio likes this.

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	Vote Bill Crosby for President

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	Vote Steve Harvey for Vice-President

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	I don't feel bad, after all look at how long it took for someone to notice the error.

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dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,475	we have gangs in my area and I remember seeing gang fights as a kid. violence hurts everyone.

08-14-2011, 10:37 PM	#43 (permalink)
dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,475	community gang violence stem from many things and become everyone's problem.

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dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 5,475	Yes....

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	I know trolling when I see it! Notice there are 5 DAYS between #36 and #37 but only MINUTES between #38 and #39\40. Nothing more than a personal attack.

12-29-2011, 01:43 AM	#51 (permalink)
shushugah Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 246 Blog Entries: 1	These comments are just depressing. No one has looked at all into WHY the ghetto culture was formed. Or WHY rap was made. I was born in a ghetto, and deal with members of the Colored Community (black, latino and asian) on a daily basis. The consumerist and self indulging hedonism of male youth in the ghetto community rightfully outrages people, but to tell them "get a job?" or talk to them in a distance of a few hundred feet away? That's a large essence of this problem. The ghetto and polarizing identity of being a member of color contributes and prolongs the the destruction of racial disjoint and disharmony on our society. Black, Asian and Latino people did not come out of nowhere. If you live in the United States, you enjoy the privilege of living in a country where Congress despite its flaws serves, thanks to the slaves who built the capitol building, Californian railroads were built by Chinese immigrants, and your food was farmed most likely by latinos, paid ridiculous wages. If the only black people you are willing to meet with, are the quote "civilized ones", then you are contributing to the problem. I personally would also like to see the dissolution of ghetto culture, but in order to do that, you have to welcome your brethren, and teach them the love and compassion of humanity, something that I am not seeing too much here. Ghetto and crime occurs in societies where life offers them little opportunity and life sucks for them. My ex bf was one of the few dominicans who didn't go on crack, but he was raised without parents, since both were in jail for drug trading, and his community is a dangerous place. Native Americans villages are growing into ghettos, because of unemployment and desolate youth.