GA illegal immigration bill ruins crops

netrox · 06-21-2011, 11:22 PM

Interesting article:

"After enacting House Bill 87, a law designed to drive illegal immigrants out of Georgia, state officials appear shocked to discover that HB 87 is, well, driving a lot of illegal immigrants out of Georgia.

It might be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

Thanks to the resulting labor shortage, Georgia farmers have been forced to leave millions of dollars’ worth of blueberries, onions, melons and other crops unharvested and rotting in the fields. It has also put state officials into something of a panic at the damage they’ve done to Georgia’s largest industry."

Ga’s farm-labor crisis playing out as planned | Jay Bookman

**TXgolfer** · 06-21-2011, 11:42 PM

everything will be ok..... Sounds like the bill was an instant success!

Steinhauer · 06-22-2011, 12:09 AM

As we say down south, that article is a bunch of hogwash. Previously unemployed Georgian's are now finding jobs in agriculture thanks to that bill.

That would be "legal Americans" who are now employed. Don't step in the BS. Crop harvesting is rife with damaged crops, every year. Nothing to see here ....

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Passing law will perhaps force the issue to be address. The argument that we need illegal migrants for this work is false. The employers only hire illegal immigrants because they are cheaper. They are also more likely to be abused.

At one time the left would be for workers rights to protect wages and protect against abuse but now they are more concerned about trying to get Latino votes than protecting worker rights.

Also note making them citizens doesn’t help because they Latino unemployment is higher running currently at 11.9%.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

netrox · 06-22-2011, 12:20 AM

LOL! I'm sorry but you think whites will work for cheap labor? nope.

We'll pay more.

Steinhauer · 06-22-2011, 12:23 AM

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As a way of irritating many reporters and some very frustrated far-left editors, some obvious facts: Illegal immigration and illegal employment were already illegal when Gov. Deal signed HB 87 into law on May 13.

Read more: The Marietta Daily Journal - D A King Pro law Americans turning tide on immigration

http://mdjonline.com/view/full_story...stance=special

netrox · 06-22-2011, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Read more: The Marietta Daily Journal - D A King Pro law Americans turning tide on immigration

The Marietta Daily Journal - D A King Pro law Americans turning tide on immigration

"A recent survey of Georgia farmers requested by the governor revealed that only 5 percent had used the legal method to obtain farm help. They have been using the illegals because they could."

Like I said, any white people willin' to work on a farm as cheap as illegals?

oh sorry, I mean legal Americans...

Steinhauer · 06-22-2011, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by netrox

"A recent survey of Georgia farmers requested by the governor revealed that only 5 percent had used the legal method to obtain farm help. They have been using the illegals because they could."

Like I said, any white people willin' to work on a farm as cheap as illegals?

oh sorry, I mean legal Americans...

Are you assuming this is a racist issue are do you think displaced American workers is a joke?

**TXgolfer** · 06-22-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by netrox

"A recent survey of Georgia farmers requested by the governor revealed that only 5 percent had used the legal method to obtain farm help. They have been using the illegals because they could."

Like I said, any white people willin' to work on a farm as cheap as illegals?

oh sorry, I mean legal Americans...

They will if we cut off their unemployment....

**Foxrac** · 06-22-2011, 01:23 AM

US immigrant law is EPIC FAIL, even GA, AZ, AL, SC passed like that way.

I'm not impressed at all.

Even, surprisely, I'm favor immigrants to work in agriculture, regardless on their status, legal or illegal.

**Foxrac** · 06-22-2011, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by netrox

LOL! I'm sorry but you think whites will work for cheap labor? nope.

We'll pay more.

Obviously, not just whites but rest of Americans won't get job in agriculture unless they accept to live on very low paying, too way below the federal minimum wage.

**TXgolfer** · 06-22-2011, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Obviously, not just whites but rest of Americans won't get job in agriculture unless they accept to live on very low paying, too way below the federal minimum wage.

$8/hr is above minimum wage...

**Foxrac** · 06-22-2011, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

$8/hr is above minimum wage...

No, not for agriculture - MUCH lower like $1.50 per hour.

**TXgolfer** · 06-22-2011, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

US immigrant law is EPIC FAIL, even GA, AZ, AL, SC passed like that way.

I'm not impressed at all.

Even, surprisely, I'm favor immigrants to work in agriculture, regardless on their status, legal or illegal.

GA wanted to rid the state of illegals.... If this blog is correct illegals have fled GA. Thus EPIC Success! Doing the right thing isn't always the easiest path.

**Foxrac** · 06-22-2011, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

GA wanted to rid the state of illegals.... If this blog is correct illegals have fled GA. Thus EPIC Success! Doing the right thing isn't always the easiest path.

I found this is silly.

Still not impressed.

**deafskeptic** · 06-22-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

everything will be ok..... Sounds like the bill was an instant success!

I wonder what the farmers and those in the farming industry have to say about this success.

**Beowulf** · 06-22-2011, 07:44 AM

Hah, I knew this would happen. Now we must face the truth: we simply don't pay agriculture workers enough to entice people into doing backbreaking work. Believe me, harvesting crops is tough work, and minimum wage doesn't cut it. Thanks to the immigration bill, watch the price of food skyrocket, and listen to all the whining that will follow.

**deafskeptic** · 06-22-2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Hah, I knew this would happen. Now we must face the truth: we simply don't pay agriculture workers enough to entice people into doing backbreaking work. Believe me, harvesting crops is tough work, and minimum wage doesn't cut it. Thanks to the immigration bill, watch the price of food skyrocket, and listen to all the whining that will follow.

Shall we consider this an epic success or EPIC FAIL?

**Beowulf** · 06-22-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by deafskeptic

Shall we consider this an epic success or EPIC FAIL?

Failing grades across the board in this history class.

**Foxrac** · 06-22-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by deafskeptic

Shall we consider this an epic success or EPIC FAIL?

Both.

**Daredevel7** · 06-22-2011, 10:43 AM

I am all for making sure employers are not hiring illegal immigrants. Seems like it's a success for scaring illegals away. Looks like it is working here in Alabama too. It's also a good start to see if Americans can step up to the challenge for labor jobs for low pay. There is this big assumption that top people at companies have a high profit due to the low pay for illegal immigrants, so when Americans work at a higher rate, the top people will have to give up some of their profits to keep the company up. Let's hope that assumption is right........ otherwise.. we will see a lot of companies go downhill.

I'm really curious to see how this goes. It's sort of like an experiment to me.

**Foxrac** · 06-22-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

I am all for making sure employers are not hiring illegal immigrants. Seems like it's a success for scaring illegals away. Looks like it is working here in Alabama too. It's also a good start to see if Americans can step up to the challenge for labor jobs for low pay. There is this big assumption that top people at companies have a high profit due to the low pay for illegal immigrants, so when Americans work at a higher rate, the top people will have to give up some of their profits to keep the company up. Let's hope that assumption is right........ otherwise.. we will see a lot of companies go downhill.

I'm really curious to see how this goes. It's sort of like an experiment to me.

I'm good with E-Verify for non-agriculture jobs, especially service and manufacturing but for agriculture, I don't care if they are flooded with illegal immigrants at low wage.

**Daredevel7** · 06-22-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

I'm good with E-Verify for non-agriculture jobs, especially service and manufacturing but for agriculture, I don't care if they are flooded with illegal immigrants at low wage.

How come you are all for it for non-agriculture jobs but not for agriculture jobs? What makes it different?

**Foxrac** · 06-22-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Daredevel7

How come you are all for it for non-agriculture jobs but not for agriculture jobs? What makes it different?

because not many Americans want to work at agriculture due to very low paying, unless they are in management or higher level then it is ok.

Steinhauer · 06-22-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

I'm good with E-Verify for non-agriculture jobs, especially service and manufacturing but for agriculture, I don't care if they are flooded with illegal immigrants at low wage.

So, you are in favor of slavery?

DeafCaroline · 06-22-2011, 02:13 PM

Slaves don't get paid.

**Foxrac** · 06-22-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

So, you are in favor of slavery?

What's silly question.

Illegal immigrants still got paid for picking the crops, that's not slavery at all.

Steinhauer · 06-22-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

Slaves don't get paid.

They got room and board. The majority of slaves were treated much better than the migrant workers of today are treated.

StSapphire · 06-22-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

So, you are in favor of slavery?

You're a moron.

StSapphire · 06-22-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

They got room and board. The majority of slaves were treated much better than the migrant workers of today are treated.

Yes, having no control over any aspect of your life is the good life.

Steinhauer · 06-22-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by StSapphire

Yes, having no control over any aspect of your life is the good life.

Well, illegal aliens had a choice of breaking the law, or not. What choice did they make?

Seems they had a little control over their actions.

06-21-2011, 11:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
netrox Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,780	GA illegal immigration bill ruins crops Interesting article: "After enacting House Bill 87, a law designed to drive illegal immigrants out of Georgia, state officials appear shocked to discover that HB 87 is, well, driving a lot of illegal immigrants out of Georgia. It might be funny if it wasn’t so sad. Thanks to the resulting labor shortage, Georgia farmers have been forced to leave millions of dollars’ worth of blueberries, onions, melons and other crops unharvested and rotting in the fields. It has also put state officials into something of a panic at the damage they’ve done to Georgia’s largest industry." Ga’s farm-labor crisis playing out as planned \| Jay Bookman

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TXgolfer Dream Weaver Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Everywhere Posts: 17,659	everything will be ok..... Sounds like the bill was an instant success! rockin'robin and KristinaB like this. __________________ Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. - Romans 12:21 Sometimes at night, I see their faces. I feel the traces they've left on my soul

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Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,515	Hah, I knew this would happen. Now we must face the truth: we simply don't pay agriculture workers enough to entice people into doing backbreaking work. Believe me, harvesting crops is tough work, and minimum wage doesn't cut it. Thanks to the immigration bill, watch the price of food skyrocket, and listen to all the whining that will follow. DeafCaroline likes this.

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Daredevel7 Adrenaline Junky Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 4,341	I am all for making sure employers are not hiring illegal immigrants. Seems like it's a success for scaring illegals away. Looks like it is working here in Alabama too. It's also a good start to see if Americans can step up to the challenge for labor jobs for low pay. There is this big assumption that top people at companies have a high profit due to the low pay for illegal immigrants, so when Americans work at a higher rate, the top people will have to give up some of their profits to keep the company up. Let's hope that assumption is right........ otherwise.. we will see a lot of companies go downhill. I'm really curious to see how this goes. It's sort of like an experiment to me. deafskeptic and rockin'robin like this.

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netrox Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,780	LOL! I'm sorry but you think whites will work for cheap labor? nope. We'll pay more.

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