GA illegal immigration bill ruins crops - Page 4

**Beowulf** · 06-23-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by netrox

Sounds communist to me.

Then nuke them.

netrox · 06-23-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Then nuke them.

not at all, me respect them!

**Beowulf** · 06-23-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by netrox

not at all, me respect them!

Same here. There's an Amish community less than a 20 minute drive from here. It is time for me to visit again.

mizwytch · 06-23-2011, 03:55 PM

Seems to me the a lot of people are missing the point here...it is AGAINST THE LAW for these people to be here. It is AGAINST THE LAW to pay anything lower than established minimum wage. Why should American citizens be willing to work for $1.90 an hour? Even LEGAL immigrants are pissed off about the illegals swarming over here and not having to go through the legal channels they had to BY LAW go through. Legal immigrants had to learn English, and basic laws of being a citizen of this country. They had to assimilate to some degree and were more than willing to do so. Why should the tax payers of this country pay out millions of dollars to accommodate illegals by having everything printed out in spanish language? Why isn't that money used to help fund programs to accommodate Deaf people? Or Blind People? Or help the poor and homeless Americans? Or help fund our schools better? Or help the Elderly? Mexico needs to get it's shit straightened out and help it's own people. They are NOT America's responsibility. We need to clean up our own country and help our own people before trying to take care of everyone else's problems.

netrox · 06-23-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mizwytch

Seems to me the a lot of people are missing the point here...it is AGAINST THE LAW for these people to be here. It is AGAINST THE LAW to pay anything lower than established minimum wage. Why should American citizens be willing to work for $1.90 an hour? Even LEGAL immigrants are pissed off about the illegals swarming over here and not having to go through the legal channels they had to BY LAW go through. Legal immigrants had to learn English, and basic laws of being a citizen of this country. They had to assimilate to some degree and were more than willing to do so. Why should the tax payers of this country pay out millions of dollars to accommodate illegals by having everything printed out in spanish language? Why isn't that money used to help fund programs to accommodate Deaf people? Or Blind People? Or help the poor and homeless Americans? Or help fund our schools better? Or help the Elderly? Mexico needs to get it's shit straightened out and help it's own people. They are NOT America's responsibility. We need to clean up our own country and help our own people before trying to take care of everyone else's problems.

oh hell with that ... screw the poor, the disabled, and the legals.. we want to make moola for ourselves and our kind! We always oppose minimum wage laws. without them, we'd not hire illegals. you bleeding heart liberal for implementing socialist communist facsist policies!

mizwytch · 06-23-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by netrox

oh hell with that ... screw the poor, the disabled, and the legals.. we want to make moola for ourselves and our kind! We always oppose minimum wage laws. without them, we'd not hire illegals. you bleeding heart liberal for implementing socialist communist facsist policies!

*snicker* A bleeding heart liberal I am definitely NOT.

**Smithtr** · 06-23-2011, 06:34 PM

I am surprised reading!!I you means on ruin crop on the farm sound interesting!
I think so low not enough pay I am not sure!

**KristinaB** · 06-23-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Same here. There's an Amish community less than a 20 minute drive from here. It is time for me to visit again.

I love going to Clark!! I miss it a bunch. I would drive through once a month and buy some of the vegetable and such. Once a year we would get 2 new brooms and whisk brooms.

**Beowulf** · 06-23-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KristinaB

I love going to Clark!! I miss it a bunch. I would drive through once a month and buy some of the vegetable and such. Once a year we would get 2 new brooms and whisk brooms.

Thanks for the idea! For some reason there is no milk sold from Clark this year, and I will check into it.

Steinhauer · 06-23-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mizwytch

Seems to me the a lot of people are missing the point here...it is AGAINST THE LAW for these people to be here. It is AGAINST THE LAW to pay anything lower than established minimum wage. Why should American citizens be willing to work for $1.90 an hour? Even LEGAL immigrants are pissed off about the illegals swarming over here and not having to go through the legal channels they had to BY LAW go through. Legal immigrants had to learn English, and basic laws of being a citizen of this country. They had to assimilate to some degree and were more than willing to do so. Why should the tax payers of this country pay out millions of dollars to accommodate illegals by having everything printed out in spanish language? Why isn't that money used to help fund programs to accommodate Deaf people? Or Blind People? Or help the poor and homeless Americans? Or help fund our schools better? Or help the Elderly? Mexico needs to get it's shit straightened out and help it's own people. They are NOT America's responsibility. We need to clean up our own country and help our own people before trying to take care of everyone else's problems.

The other point that is being missed is that the overall objective and function of slavery was for cheap agricultural labor.

That is the exact same overall objective and function of hiring illegal immigrants. Those who support this are breaking the law, they are also supporting slavery.

**Beowulf** · 06-23-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

The other point that is being missed is that the overall objective and function of slavery was for cheap agricultural labor.

That is the exact same overall objective and function of hiring illegal immigrants. Those who support this are breaking the law, they are also supporting slavery.

Meh. I would say the same about those who do not support livable wages in any industry.

**shel90** · 06-23-2011, 09:16 PM

I am sorry...the Mexicans are at fault for everything that is wrong with this country.

Steinhauer · 06-23-2011, 09:37 PM

Mexico is suing Georgia for HB 87. There is a lot to be said when Mexico does not want their own citizens back.

**Reba** · 06-23-2011, 09:44 PM

As I've posted before, slavery is neither good nor endorsed by God.

People who have attempted to use the Bible to justify slavery did so only to get society's approval. They didn't really care what God thought about slavery. It's the same with any sin. One can always find and twist some verse to justify committing one's preferred sin.

Slavery is mentioned in the Bible because it was a fact of life for the cultures of that time. Other practices, not condoned by God, are also mentioned in the Bible. That doesn't mean God approved of them. It means the Bible documented life as it really was, and that it showed the consequences of those practices. The Bible also explains how God set down laws to mitigate the actions of disobedient people.

**Reba** · 06-23-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Leviticus 25 verse 25 begins the rules set down by God about slavery, follow it to the end of the chapter. For one to follow the way of God means to do the right things according to God and that is good.

God didn't say that slavery was "good" in that passage. He provided laws that limited the slavery that was already in existence at that time, and He also provided ways for those who were in bondage to be redeemed.

God has to deal with some very hard-headed, rough people.

**Reba** · 06-23-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Thanks for the idea! For some reason there is no milk sold from Clark this year, and I will check into it.

I wonder if it could be related to this:

Feds sting Amish farmer selling raw milk locally - Washington Times

**Reba** · 06-23-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

This is one of the reasons why I dont believe in religion. Slavery is NEVER a good thing.

God did not create slavery. There's no reason to blame Him.

I can't speak for all religions and their beliefs.

**Beowulf** · 06-23-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I wonder if it could be related to this:

Feds sting Amish farmer selling raw milk locally - Washington Times

Wouldn't surprise me.

**Reba** · 06-23-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I didnt know that there is a such thing as disorganized religion?

Well, if there is such a thing as organized religion, it stands to reason that there must also be disorganized religion.

So, are people against religion, or against organization?

**Reba** · 06-23-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

What is that?

The opposite of organized religion?

**Reba** · 06-23-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

I had a long response to that but changed my mind. You wouldn't like it.

It doesn't matter what I like. I have no censorship authority at AD.

mizwytch · 06-23-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Mexico is suing Georgia for HB 87. There is a lot to be said when Mexico does not want their own citizens back.

Yes, it says the rich and affluent rulers of that country don't give a **** about their own people, especially the poor, and do their damnedest to pawn them off on us. **** Mexico and it's bullshit lawsuit. They shouldn't be having ANY influence or say in the running of this country. These people are invaders ...and historically every time stuff like this happened it constituted an act of war. So, does this mean Mexico has declared war on the U.S.? Sure as hell seems like it.

jillio · 06-23-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

As we say down south, that article is a bunch of hogwash. Previously unemployed Georgian's are now finding jobs in agriculture thanks to that bill.

That would be "legal Americans" who are now employed. Don't step in the BS. Crop harvesting is rife with damaged crops, every year. Nothing to see here ....

If unemployed Georgians were willing to do the work, illegal immigrants wouldn't be necessary.

jillio · 06-23-2011, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Then you misunderstood me. I said they got "paid" by having room and board provided. In many cases, what we call "medical bills" were also paid.

I in no way implied that they had a "good life" - that was your implication, not mine.

My implication was that slaves were treated better than many of the illegal migrant workers of today.

Read up on the Fair Labaor Standard Act sometime.

The businesses that hire illegals are comparable to slave drivers.

I really had hoped that this kind of justification and blantant racism was a thing of the past.

This is just so wrong, on so many levels,

jillio · 06-23-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by deafskeptic

and I hope they get decent working wages and benefits but I on't think the farmers will be too keen on this.

And neither will the American public when the produce prices triple or quadruple.

jillio · 06-23-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I am sorry...the Mexicans are at fault for everything that is wrong with this country.

According to Steinhauer, the Blacks and the mentally ill are responsible along with the Mexicans.

jillio · 06-23-2011, 10:35 PM

You know, I could not even stomach reading all of this thread. Some of the comments actually made me want to puke.

**Reba** · 06-23-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Reba might read it to say "bondsman and bondsmaid", depends on which version used. Nevertheless, it is God's approval of servitude but with rules and restrictions.

No, it doesn't say that God approved of involuntary servitude (slavery). God acknowledged that slavery existed in those cultures. He provided a way of redemption out of slavery.

Steinhauer · 06-23-2011, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

If unemployed Georgians were willing to do the work, illegal immigrants wouldn't be necessary.

Just another liberal attempting to turn this into a racist issue (just wait ... it will eventually happen), whom also supports slavery by claiming legal residents of Georgia should work for $1.00 or less per hour doing hard labor.

Steinhauer · 06-23-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

You know, I could not even stomach reading all of this thread. Some of the comments actually made me want to puke.

Good.

06-23-2011, 03:55 PM	#94 (permalink)
mizwytch Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Grayson Kentucky Posts: 308	Seems to me the a lot of people are missing the point here...it is AGAINST THE LAW for these people to be here. It is AGAINST THE LAW to pay anything lower than established minimum wage. Why should American citizens be willing to work for $1.90 an hour? Even LEGAL immigrants are pissed off about the illegals swarming over here and not having to go through the legal channels they had to BY LAW go through. Legal immigrants had to learn English, and basic laws of being a citizen of this country. They had to assimilate to some degree and were more than willing to do so. Why should the tax payers of this country pay out millions of dollars to accommodate illegals by having everything printed out in spanish language? Why isn't that money used to help fund programs to accommodate Deaf people? Or Blind People? Or help the poor and homeless Americans? Or help fund our schools better? Or help the Elderly? Mexico needs to get it's shit straightened out and help it's own people. They are NOT America's responsibility. We need to clean up our own country and help our own people before trying to take care of everyone else's problems. rockin'robin likes this. __________________ Most men would kill the truth if truth would kill their religion. ~Lemuel K. Washburn A dogma will thrive in soil where the truth could not get root. ~Lemuel K. Washburn

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shel90 Let It Snow!!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,305 Blog Entries: 3	I am sorry...the Mexicans are at fault for everything that is wrong with this country. StSapphire likes this. __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

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Smithtr Siberian Husky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 14,682	I am surprised reading!!I you means on ruin crop on the farm sound interesting! I think so low not enough pay I am not sure!

06-23-2011, 09:44 PM	#104 (permalink)
Reba Granny Terp Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 39,195	As I've posted before, slavery is neither good nor endorsed by God. People who have attempted to use the Bible to justify slavery did so only to get society's approval. They didn't really care what God thought about slavery. It's the same with any sin. One can always find and twist some verse to justify committing one's preferred sin. Slavery is mentioned in the Bible because it was a fact of life for the cultures of that time. Other practices, not condoned by God, are also mentioned in the Bible. That doesn't mean God approved of them. It means the Bible documented life as it really was, and that it showed the consequences of those practices. The Bible also explains how God set down laws to mitigate the actions of disobedient people.

06-23-2011, 10:35 PM	#117 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	You know, I could not even stomach reading all of this thread. Some of the comments actually made me want to puke.